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Originally posted by GNielsen:
Once again for those who seem to have a problem with basic logic: the greater SF Bay area has a population of about 7 million. San Francisco has a population of about 800K. So it only makes sense that the vast majority of fans DO NOT live right in San Francisco. A large percentage of fans live on the peninsula and in the South Bay. But, for those who don't, BART is extending into the area and there will probably be a stop right at the stadium because there will also be a huge entertainment and shopping complex. The train goes right down to the area from San Francisco. Buses will obviously be going to the area. There is no reason why San Francisco residents can't take some sort of public transit to Niner games in Santa Clara.

Also, the Niners have been on the peninsula forever. Before their current facility was built, they were in Redwood City. Wouldn't just about everyone rather have the Niner players walking or riding golf carts across the parking lot to the game the way Packers players do? Wouldn't you rather be along that path cheering them on as they walk over to the game signing autographs on the way like they do in Green Bay?

And, as far as the cost, again, think about it. The majority of season packages are going to corporations. Most of those corporations are filled with people who don't necessarily want to go to all the games. There will probably be more second-party sales of tickets than there are now at the Stick and they probably won't be that expensive because most of the corporate people will have those tickets comped to them.

I was born and raised in SF and have been a Niner fan all my life. I've got no problem. Get over it, people! It's good for the franchise.

Well said, G. As always. My brother and I are having this same argument. He lives in San Rafael and is whining about them moving. I told him to 420 up and get over it

Originally posted by Beeker:


Well said, G. As always. My brother and I are having this same argument. He lives in San Rafael and is whining about them moving. I told him to 420 up and get over it

Thanks. You know, one of the greatest ways to see a Giants game is to get on that ferry in Larkspur. My guess is that there will be a ferry from Larkspur that goes to the dock in Redwood City and then connecting buses, so your brother might end up just fine. But, if he drives, it's actually going to be an easier, if a little longer run. You'll just go 19th out to 280 and then cut down on 85. My guess is that the traffic will be a lot easier to manage than it currently is getting in and out of the Stick.

Originally posted by GNielsen:

Originally posted by Beeker:

Well said, G. As always. My brother and I are having this same argument. He lives in San Rafael and is whining about them moving. I told him to 420 up and get over it

Thanks. You know, one of the greatest ways to see a Giants game is to get on that ferry in Larkspur. My guess is that there will be a ferry from Larkspur that goes to the dock in Redwood City and then connecting buses, so your brother might end up just fine. But, if he drives, it's actually going to be an easier, if a little longer run. You'll just go 19th out to 280 and then cut down on 85. My guess is that the traffic will be a lot easier to manage than it currently is getting in and out of the Stick.

Or take the bridge to Richmond, BART to Warm Springs (or Milpitas when that station is built) and take either the SVTA bus or light rail to the new stadium

Originally posted by Beeker:

Well said, G. As always. My brother and I are having this same argument. He lives in San Rafael and is whining about them moving. I told him to 420 up and get over it

I live in San Rafael and have no issue with the move.

Originally posted by SportsFan:

Originally posted by Beeker:


Well said, G. As always. My brother and I are having this same argument. He lives in San Rafael and is whining about them moving. I told him to 420 up and get over it

I live in San Rafael and have no issue with the move.

My mistake - he lives in Richmond.

Originally posted by xtm059:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

If that means the dumbasses who like to start fights are plentiful then no, i dont wish everyone can afford it

Hi.

Just because you're poor doesn't mean you're stupid, or a drunk, or riffraff that starts fights.

Plenty of those a*****es have money.

My point still stands

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by CRUD:
I don't like the location for other reasons and the design seems lacking. Lack of BART access isn't a trivial matter and ticket prices are just going to keep going higher and higher.

You do realize that BART doesn't go to Candlestick, right? Like not even close. I used to take BART from the east bay, and then have to take a 1/2 hour bus to the game. Not very BART friendly. And while we're on this topic, you do know that BART is being extended to south Fremont in the Warm Springs district, right? That's exactly 1 exit from 237. It won't take very long to extend it to SC, or even right to the door step of the stadium. Fremont was the ones holding up the BART extension to the south bay because they didn't want to run it over Central Park (huge major park). They finally decided to go under it, and it's pretty close to complete. So you can drink all you want and not have to worry about getting DUI's, since you obviously have a problem handling your drank.

Actually the exit that is closest to the Warm Springs Bart Station is either Fremont Blvd, very slightly north of it and Mission Blvd, a bit south of it. Then the next twi exits are Warren Ave and Dixon Road which is in Milpitas. Then you hit 237. So it's either 3 or 4 exits from 237 depending if you use Fremont Blvd, which is way closer or Mission Blvd. Not quite exactly 1 exit away. Not that far away though. It's about 15-20 minutes driving from Warm Springs Bart location to the stadium with no traffic. I'm sure there will be plenty of traffic.

I live in Warm Springs so I can shoot down to SC a bit early without traffic and be there in 15 minutes. Much better than an hour plus to The Stick. Hope that new Santana Row type place is built to drink up at and watch the early game. I have four seats on the 30!

Nobody b***hes more about having to drive out of their area than SF/Oakland people I swear. They make it sound like San Jose is in the Boondocks lol.

"I gotta drive an hour to the stadium, wtf, i'm not gonna do that!"

lol, then see yeah later. cheaper tix for me.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by xtm059:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
If that means the dumbasses who like to start fights are plentiful then no, i dont wish everyone can afford it

Hi.

Just because you're poor doesn't mean you're stupid, or a drunk, or riffraff that starts fights.

Plenty of those a*****es have money.

My point still stands

lol, if you are poor, you are more likely to cause trouble... this is not complicated, I dont know how xtm doesnt get it. Its not the lack of many that makes people this way. Its more like, lack of money is a byproduct of being a trouble making a*****e because chances are you're a loser who fails at life.

Originally posted by modninerfan:
Nobody b***hes more about having to drive out of their area than SF/Oakland people I swear. They make it sound like San Jose is in the Boondocks lol.

"I gotta drive an hour to the stadium, wtf, i'm not gonna do that!"

lol, then see yeah later. cheaper tix for me.

Yeah, right? "Die-hard Niner fans" who can't imagine driving an hour to see the team live. Veerrrrrry dedicated.

Originally posted by modninerfan:
lol, if you are poor, you are more likely to cause trouble... this is not complicated, I dont know how xtm doesnt get it. Its not the lack of many that makes people this way. Its more like, lack of money is a byproduct of being a trouble making a*****e because chances are you're a loser who fails at life.

Honestly, if you mix in a generous portion of alcohol, I've usually found that people with money are just as likely to be a-holes as people without it. The last time I was at a Niner game, two guys near us got real drunk and started throwing things at Rams fans in the stands. After the game, I saw them getting into a Mercedes in the parking lot.

Originally posted by GNielsen:

Originally posted by modninerfan:
lol, if you are poor, you are more likely to cause trouble... this is not complicated, I dont know how xtm doesnt get it. Its not the lack of many that makes people this way. Its more like, lack of money is a byproduct of being a trouble making a*****e because chances are you're a loser who fails at life.

Honestly, if you mix in a generous portion of alcohol, I've usually found that people with money are just as likely to be a-holes as people without it. The last time I was at a Niner game, two guys near us got real drunk and started throwing things at Rams fans in the stands. After the game, I saw them getting into a Mercedes in the parking lot.

I generally have fewer problems with fights along the sidelines... doesnt really matter if its UR or LR. Buy tickets in the end zone where its 20-60 a ticket and anything goes. Fights seem even fewer come playoffs. When I went to the Superbowl there wasnt a single trash talker from either time... in fact most fans were congratulating each other upon reaching the super bowl or wishing each other luck. I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you.

Originally posted by modninerfan:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by xtm059:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
If that means the dumbasses who like to start fights are plentiful then no, i dont wish everyone can afford it

Hi.

Just because you're poor doesn't mean you're stupid, or a drunk, or riffraff that starts fights.

Plenty of those a*****es have money.

My point still stands

lol, if you are poor, you are more likely to cause trouble... this is not complicated, I dont know how xtm doesnt get it. Its not the lack of many that makes people this way. Its more like, lack of money is a byproduct of being a trouble making a*****e because chances are you're a loser who fails at life.

Exactly, apparently this is news to xtm

Originally posted by modninerfan:
Nobody b***hes more about having to drive out of their area than SF/Oakland people I swear. They make it sound like San Jose is in the Boondocks lol.

"I gotta drive an hour to the stadium, wtf, i'm not gonna do that!"

lol, then see yeah later. cheaper tix for me.

Candlestick is an absolute disaster getting out of.

If you watch the whole game, you are there at least 2 hours after the game. You're home by 7 if you're looking. People tailgate afterwards to let some of the traffic die down. Yeah right.

If you leave early to beat the traffic, you are not a true fan

Even trying to get up to 3rd to get out of there is just as bad.

The only way to beat it is to park way out by Bayshore, walk through the tunnel and up to the Stadium.

Barring that, its a nightmare.

With people actually maybe being able to use public transit, it might cut down on the cars.

If what they say is true about the new stadium and accessibility is true, you might actually get home sooner even living in San Francisco.

If the game ends at 4:30 and you are home by 6:00 and you life in SF, actually, you are home earlier than you could be now at the Stick.

Time will tell of course but it will be nice to send the old lady off with a Super Bowl Victory next year, then watch her implode.

Originally posted by BayArea:
I agree it's pretty much in the constitution. "Fans attending an NFL game shall be allowed to leave s**t faced and pilot their vehicles home, without being pestered by stadium officials. Two wreck maximum before police are allowed to intervene."

Not what I was saying at all. The lack of viable public transport to and from games will lead to higher DUI offenses post game I don't think being pestered not to drink and drive is a problem I think the infrastructure should be in place to accommodate football fans who drink. This was sort of a problem at Candlestick but BART was only 3 miles away. Other than the issues of people drinking and driving home after the games (which isn't even my main issue) it's a sub standard design that looks like a college stadium and it's on the boonies outskirts of the Bay Area- the reason the design is so cheap is because land prices in that region are artificially high due to it being the silicon valley, in turn, ticket prices will reflect what people will pay for them as well. It's totally catering to the silicon valley and the money there. Just adding to the "niner fans are snobs" fire. Why would I say that? Partly because of the attitude put forth in this thread. The sort of things niner fans have taken crap on for decades, you know, the "poor people cause trouble at games" nonsense I've seen posted in this thread. Yes BART is eventually going to go out there in the middle of nowhere but it's going to be an almost 2 hour ride for many fans. They should've kept the team centralized in the Bay Area, as in, in San Fransisco or Oakland. People wouldn't have to sell their blood to get a ticket and wouldn't have to travel for 2 hours to get there but the silicon valley has money and money talks. Hell, if the new stadium is filled with the likes of you people I'll gladly stay home and watch the game. f**k, after this thread I may even become a Raider fan. Call me "white trash" if you will I simply don't think poor people cause trouble at football games. That's just nonsense.