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Originally posted by crabman82:
Originally posted by NeonNiner:
Yeah, I doubt Levi's can get to Seattle's level. Would be nice but a whole lot of factors goes into CLink's noise advantages. The place was built to be a great HFA.

Arrowhead's design is simpler but definitely provides for a great HFA. The bowl design is ideal for great acoustics; fully enclosed and not sitting on top of many (if any) club/luxury boxes. Plus the rows of seats are highly sloped.

Levi's CAN get loud but it will depend on the fans. Noise factor could have been better but 1) it's a meaningless preseason game and 2) the team laid a complete egg. I was at the game and tbh, there wasn't much to cheer about. Awful QB play, 3 and outs every drive, secondary getting scorched, not many big plays, etc.

The energy definitely peaked before and at the beginning of the game when more starters were in. I also taped the pre game show and re watched it; one of the things the commentators kept noting was how loud it was on the field and how they had to scrunch closer together to hear themselves talk. The place can/will get loud and we'll see that come regular season and playoffs.

this all day long. we can debate who is louder, who is pumpin in noise, what decibel it peaked at. but at the end of the day it comes down to the fans and their willingness to be loud. sure seattle is loud, but theres other stadiums that get loud enough to affect the visiting teams O. the fans just have to be willing to do it.

As a Hawk fan this. Yes we have the record and all, but I'll admit, that's just a fun thing. As a group of human beings, we're no louder than another group of human beings. I highly doubt the noise level for players at Clink vs Arrowhead is any different. However, I think the difference is the fans in the stadium knowing when to get loud. Based off of comments on here, it seems the running joke is that Candlestick was almost louder on offense than it was on defense.

I mean hell even in the blow out preseason game against the Chargers, given the difference in fans that show up to preseason games vs regular season there is a huge difference in noise. Preseason game (i.e. Casual fans, families, and those who really just don't care about football and/or know when you're supposed to get loud). It was really only loud after a a big play, and on third down. That's it. Regular season game, especially if it's against a team like the Niners. Everyone is on their feet, all four downs, screaming their lungs off not just during the line up (which is when you would try to cause false starts), but actually right as the last play ended because we're trying to disrupt actual communication starting from before the huddle even begins. There was an interview I think VD or Kaep gave prior to the week 2 game where they were asked about crowd noise at Clink and he said something along the lines of "we do our calls before we even huddle up" and that got played on local sports radio to help inform Hawk fans to get louder sooner.

I have absolutely no doubt Levis could have a great HFA, but yeah it'll depend on the fans. For as much as people on here make fun of the 12 thing being stupid for Hawk fans. One thing it did, was instill this culture that as a Seahawk fan you need to be loud. So even casuals and bandwagonners when they go to the games...they understand their job as fans to be loud. Few other fanbases have a similar required culture, so as new fans and bandwagonners join they don't get it. A lot of people also don't want to look stupid, so if I were in a stadium where standing and screaming wasn't in the culture, I'd be told to sit down and shut up. At Clink it's very normal, no one would ever tell you that, and by doing so, it's almost like a reminder to folks around you "oh yeah this is my job as a fan in the stadium" and they join in.

Long post...sorry.
Originally posted by zaghawk:
Originally posted by crabman82:
Originally posted by NeonNiner:
Yeah, I doubt Levi's can get to Seattle's level. Would be nice but a whole lot of factors goes into CLink's noise advantages. The place was built to be a great HFA.

Arrowhead's design is simpler but definitely provides for a great HFA. The bowl design is ideal for great acoustics; fully enclosed and not sitting on top of many (if any) club/luxury boxes. Plus the rows of seats are highly sloped.

Levi's CAN get loud but it will depend on the fans. Noise factor could have been better but 1) it's a meaningless preseason game and 2) the team laid a complete egg. I was at the game and tbh, there wasn't much to cheer about. Awful QB play, 3 and outs every drive, secondary getting scorched, not many big plays, etc.

The energy definitely peaked before and at the beginning of the game when more starters were in. I also taped the pre game show and re watched it; one of the things the commentators kept noting was how loud it was on the field and how they had to scrunch closer together to hear themselves talk. The place can/will get loud and we'll see that come regular season and playoffs.

this all day long. we can debate who is louder, who is pumpin in noise, what decibel it peaked at. but at the end of the day it comes down to the fans and their willingness to be loud. sure seattle is loud, but theres other stadiums that get loud enough to affect the visiting teams O. the fans just have to be willing to do it.

As a Hawk fan this. Yes we have the record and all, but I'll admit, that's just a fun thing. As a group of human beings, we're no louder than another group of human beings. I highly doubt the noise level for players at Clink vs Arrowhead is any different. However, I think the difference is the fans in the stadium knowing when to get loud. Based off of comments on here, it seems the running joke is that Candlestick was almost louder on offense than it was on defense.

I mean hell even in the blow out preseason game against the Chargers, given the difference in fans that show up to preseason games vs regular season there is a huge difference in noise. Preseason game (i.e. Casual fans, families, and those who really just don't care about football and/or know when you're supposed to get loud). It was really only loud after a a big play, and on third down. That's it. Regular season game, especially if it's against a team like the Niners. Everyone is on their feet, all four downs, screaming their lungs off not just during the line up (which is when you would try to cause false starts), but actually right as the last play ended because we're trying to disrupt actual communication starting from before the huddle even begins. There was an interview I think VD or Kaep gave prior to the week 2 game where they were asked about crowd noise at Clink and he said something along the lines of "we do our calls before we even huddle up" and that got played on local sports radio to help inform Hawk fans to get louder sooner.

I have absolutely no doubt Levis could have a great HFA, but yeah it'll depend on the fans. For as much as people on here make fun of the 12 thing being stupid for Hawk fans. One thing it did, was instill this culture that as a Seahawk fan you need to be loud. So even casuals and bandwagonners when they go to the games...they understand their job as fans to be loud. Few other fanbases have a similar required culture, so as new fans and bandwagonners join they don't get it. A lot of people also don't want to look stupid, so if I were in a stadium where standing and screaming wasn't in the culture, I'd be told to sit down and shut up. At Clink it's very normal, no one would ever tell you that, and by doing so, it's almost like a reminder to folks around you "oh yeah this is my job as a fan in the stadium" and they join in.

Long post...sorry.

I can tell you 100% that while the "first string" offense and defense were on the field, that was NOT the case. It was much louder when Denver was on offense.

I do think its gonna be loud in there tho. The loudest it was in there was when they ran onto the field and it was impressive. I've never been to Arrowhead or the Clink so I can't make an apples to apples comparison, but it was loud.

After that tho, most of the peeps at the game were passively watching the game and really checking out the stadium, trying the food, handing out in the concourses (or clubs if they were club seat holders) to escape the sun.
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Originally posted by Marvin49:
I can tell you 100% that while the "first string" offense and defense were on the field, that was NOT the case. It was much louder when Denver was on offense.

I do think its gonna be loud in there tho. The loudest it was in there was when they ran onto the field and it was impressive. I've never been to Arrowhead or the Clink so I can't make an apples to apples comparison, but it was loud.

After that tho, most of the peeps at the game were passively watching the game and really checking out the stadium, trying the food, handing out in the concourses (or clubs if they were club seat holders) to escape the sun.

I went to Clink in 2009, wasn't that loud at all. Of course Seattle sucked that year which factors into it.
Originally posted by ChipDouglas510:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
I can tell you 100% that while the "first string" offense and defense were on the field, that was NOT the case. It was much louder when Denver was on offense.

I do think its gonna be loud in there tho. The loudest it was in there was when they ran onto the field and it was impressive. I've never been to Arrowhead or the Clink so I can't make an apples to apples comparison, but it was loud.

After that tho, most of the peeps at the game were passively watching the game and really checking out the stadium, trying the food, handing out in the concourses (or clubs if they were club seat holders) to escape the sun.

I went to Clink in 2009, wasn't that loud at all. Of course Seattle sucked that year which factors into it.

That's probably a pretty fair assumption. Although I think even today's crowd is probably no louder at its peak than most other stadiums. I think the difference is sustained sound. At this current time it's pretty much 95% of the crowd on all four downs starting from the huddle on their feet screaming. For most other stadiums, that appears to only happen consistently on third down and goal line plays.
Not sure if anyone mentioned it, but I really like the "continuous screen" scoreboard that's at the bottom of the 200 section that wraps around from one end-zone to the other, at least looking at it from the 49ers side. Right at midfield it's a scoreboard, very crisp and clear, nice touch to use team logos/colors...the rest the "band" is also video screen that they used to display various graphics/messages.

And then there's the huge video boards at both ends of the stadium...they are INCREDIBLE. They seem like some kind of super HD, almost like 3D without having to wear the glasses. I also like that off to the side of each board they list real-time team game stats (total yds rushing, passing, etc.).

As for food, it does seem a little odd that at a he-man football venue there are so many signs for "Vegan" food offerings, but Bay Area right? Inside the club level there is no shortage of bars and concession stands, they also have at least two "cafeteria-type" venues where there are different stations for sandwiches, pizzas, salads, etc.

If the food you want isn't already on the warming tray, then you tell the server what you want and they prepare it right there....once you have everything you want you pay the cashier as you exit the cafeteria. I got a turkey & meatball sandwich...thick slices of turkey, fat meatballs, sourdough bread was okay. I ended up picking off the turkey because not really a combo that does it for me, and not better than what I'd get at Quizno's for a lot less than $12, but it was good and filling. Garlic fries were excellent, if not as good as at AT&T then very close.

And thought they might have at least one communal trough in the restrooms, just for old time's sake...but did not see any.
Originally posted by zaghawk:
That's probably a pretty fair assumption. Although I think even today's crowd is probably no louder at its peak than most other stadiums. I think the difference is sustained sound. At this current time it's pretty much 95% of the crowd on all four downs starting from the huddle on their feet screaming. For most other stadiums, that appears to only happen consistently on third down and goal line plays.

Seahawk fans just yell louder...

Lol
Originally posted by DelCed2486:
Not sure if anyone mentioned it, but I really like the "continuous screen" scoreboard that's at the bottom of the 200 section that wraps around from one end-zone to the other, at least looking at it from the 49ers side. Right at midfield it's a scoreboard, very crisp and clear, nice touch to use team logos/colors...the rest the "band" is also video screen that they used to display various graphics/messages.

And then there's the huge video boards at both ends of the stadium...they are INCREDIBLE. They seem like some kind of super HD, almost like 3D without having to wear the glasses. I also like that off to the side of each board they list real-time team game stats (total yds rushing, passing, etc.).

As for food, it does seem a little odd that at a he-man football venue there are so many signs for "Vegan" food offerings, but Bay Area right? Inside the club level there is no shortage of bars and concession stands, they also have at least two "cafeteria-type" venues where there are different stations for sandwiches, pizzas, salads, etc.

If the food you want isn't already on the warming tray, then you tell the server what you want and they prepare it right there....once you have everything you want you pay the cashier as you exit the cafeteria. I got a turkey & meatball sandwich...thick slices of turkey, fat meatballs, sourdough bread was okay. I ended up picking off the turkey because not really a combo that does it for me, and not better than what I'd get at Quizno's for a lot less than $12, but it was good and filling. Garlic fries were excellent, if not as good as at AT&T then very close.

And thought they might have at least one communal trough in the restrooms, just for old time's sake...but did not see any.

What is the surrounding area of the stadium like? i.e. Tons of parking right outside great for tail gating and/or a decent bar scene? or none at all.

I've only been to two NFL stadiums

Clink:
- Great Bar Scene right outside of the stadium
-Parking for tailgating sucks because it's all kind of far from the stadium and not directly surrounding it like you'd prefer/imagine based off of commercials featuring other stadiums

MetLife:
-Parking - Appeared to be right outside the stadium, great for tailgaters.
- Bar scene non-existent, since the stadium is located in the middle of nowhere.
Originally posted by zaghawk:
Originally posted by DelCed2486:
Not sure if anyone mentioned it, but I really like the "continuous screen" scoreboard that's at the bottom of the 200 section that wraps around from one end-zone to the other, at least looking at it from the 49ers side. Right at midfield it's a scoreboard, very crisp and clear, nice touch to use team logos/colors...the rest the "band" is also video screen that they used to display various graphics/messages.

And then there's the huge video boards at both ends of the stadium...they are INCREDIBLE. They seem like some kind of super HD, almost like 3D without having to wear the glasses. I also like that off to the side of each board they list real-time team game stats (total yds rushing, passing, etc.).

As for food, it does seem a little odd that at a he-man football venue there are so many signs for "Vegan" food offerings, but Bay Area right? Inside the club level there is no shortage of bars and concession stands, they also have at least two "cafeteria-type" venues where there are different stations for sandwiches, pizzas, salads, etc.

If the food you want isn't already on the warming tray, then you tell the server what you want and they prepare it right there....once you have everything you want you pay the cashier as you exit the cafeteria. I got a turkey & meatball sandwich...thick slices of turkey, fat meatballs, sourdough bread was okay. I ended up picking off the turkey because not really a combo that does it for me, and not better than what I'd get at Quizno's for a lot less than $12, but it was good and filling. Garlic fries were excellent, if not as good as at AT&T then very close.

And thought they might have at least one communal trough in the restrooms, just for old time's sake...but did not see any.

What is the surrounding area of the stadium like? i.e. Tons of parking right outside great for tail gating and/or a decent bar scene? or none at all.

I've only been to two NFL stadiums

Clink:
- Great Bar Scene right outside of the stadium
-Parking for tailgating sucks because it's all kind of far from the stadium and not directly surrounding it like you'd prefer/imagine based off of commercials featuring other stadiums

MetLife:
-Parking - Appeared to be right outside the stadium, great for tailgaters.
- Bar scene non-existent, since the stadium is located in the middle of nowhere.

More like the Clink...or at least it will be.

The parking is aways away. Some as much as a mile. Local businesses, etc. There is a lot right next to the stadium, but its only a fraction of the total parking.

Right now its limited bars/restaurants, but all that will change when the DeBartolo/Montana Hotel/Bar/Restaurant open literally across the streen and they develop the Gold Course into a HUGE Mall/Bar/Hotel/Restaurant/Condensed Living/SC Downtown Area. 6.5 Billion dollar project...IE, 5 times more expensive than the stadium and about a 2 minute walk from the stadium. Closer than most of the parking lots. LOL.
Originally posted by zaghawk:
What is the surrounding area of the stadium like? i.e. Tons of parking right outside great for tail gating and/or a decent bar scene? or none at all.

I've only been to two NFL stadiums

Clink:
- Great Bar Scene right outside of the stadium
-Parking for tailgating sucks because it's all kind of far from the stadium and not directly surrounding it like you'd prefer/imagine based off of commercials featuring other stadiums

MetLife:
-Parking - Appeared to be right outside the stadium, great for tailgaters.
- Bar scene non-existent, since the stadium is located in the middle of nowhere.

There's some parking and tailgating close to the stadium, and some that's pretty far. The bar/restaurant scene is nonexistent right now, but they are building a huge hotel/bars/restaurants/shopping center right across the street over the next 5-10 years.
Adding to what myself and Stoney just mentioned....

This is the rough plan for the Golf Course redevelopment. To get an idea of the scale, that's the stadium at the bottom. The two small areas directly across the street from the stadium are the Montana/DeBartolo project



This is the area prior to the stadium being built.



....and the Montana/DeBartolo project.....



[ Edited by Marvin49 on Aug 19, 2014 at 2:44 PM ]
Originally posted by zaghawk:


What is the surrounding area of the stadium like? i.e. Tons of parking right outside great for tail gating and/or a decent bar scene? or none at all.

We're in Green Lot 1 which is right outside the stadium, and it's a huge lot, although not sure if all is Green 1 or part of other "color" designators...no issues with tailgating, and there were lots of people doing just that. Can't speak to other lots at surrounding businesses/neighborhoods. As for what's immediately around there, not sure about bars/restaurants....there are some on Great America Parkway, not sure how close if one were going to walk from there. But just like with the area surrounding AT&T for the Giants, the bars, restaurants, and hotels will be coming along shortly...think Joe Montana's hotel is still moving forward.
[ Edited by DelCed2486 on Aug 19, 2014 at 2:35 PM ]
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by zaghawk:
That's probably a pretty fair assumption. Although I think even today's crowd is probably no louder at its peak than most other stadiums. I think the difference is sustained sound. At this current time it's pretty much 95% of the crowd on all four downs starting from the huddle on their feet screaming. For most other stadiums, that appears to only happen consistently on third down and goal line plays.

Seahawk fans just yell louder...

Lol

Take it for what it's worth, but Ted Robinson was on KNBR yesterday and is convinced something "extra" is going on at CLink for Seahawk games. He's called college games in that stadium, mostly Washington Huskies games, and it's nowhere near as loud as Seahawks games despite being filled to capacity with a bunch of rowdy students. From my experience, college students are louder and rowdier than an NFL fan base. It's not even close. Makes no sense why a bunch of middle-age Seahawk fans would be astronomically louder than any group of humans on the planet.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by zaghawk:
That's probably a pretty fair assumption. Although I think even today's crowd is probably no louder at its peak than most other stadiums. I think the difference is sustained sound. At this current time it's pretty much 95% of the crowd on all four downs starting from the huddle on their feet screaming. For most other stadiums, that appears to only happen consistently on third down and goal line plays.

Seahawk fans just yell louder...

Lol

Take it for what it's worth, but Ted Robinson was on KNBR yesterday and is convinced something "extra" is going on at CLink for Seahawk games. He's called college games in that stadium, mostly Washington Huskies games, and it's nowhere near as loud as Seahawks games despite being filled to capacity with a bunch of rowdy students. From my experience, college students are louder and rowdier than an NFL fan base. It's not even close. Makes no sense why a bunch of middle-age Seahawk fans would be astronomically louder than any group of humans on the planet.

It's the Power Of The 12, they are super-fans with super-human lung and decibel capacity...duh. Surprised you didn't know that.
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by zaghawk:
That's probably a pretty fair assumption. Although I think even today's crowd is probably no louder at its peak than most other stadiums. I think the difference is sustained sound. At this current time it's pretty much 95% of the crowd on all four downs starting from the huddle on their feet screaming. For most other stadiums, that appears to only happen consistently on third down and goal line plays.

Seahawk fans just yell louder...

Lol

No bro. They revolutionized when to cheer at appropriate times. This just occurred in 2012. Duh.
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