Levi's Stadium pics and info...

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Originally posted by Janitor:
Pretty sure the shade answer is a lie too. It wouldn't be cost effective, at all, and it would take major construction and a chunk of time, but I highly doubt it is impossible as he claims.

I mean, it is obviously they just don't want to spend the money. Dolphins are already doing it:

FAA regulations would make this design impossible for Levi's. See: four pillars that double the height of the structure.

Originally posted by ShadedSideofLevis:
I feel like you guys who are acting like hardos and think there is not a sun problem at Levi's havent't actually been to Levi's stadium. And if you have, you haven't sat on the East side on a sunny day. Like, I am speaking from experience, it's not a fun time.

Been there, done it.

I've also been to Dodger Stadium for day games that were 95-100 degrees. One just needs to deal with it.

Originally posted by ShadedSideofLevis:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
According to historical data, the high in Santa Clara on Nov. 12, 2017 was 68 degrees

https://weather.com/weather/monthly/l/USCA1018:1:US

Not sure what to tell you bro, I was there and it was much hotter than 68 degrees. That sun absolutley bakes you.

But then can you at least agree that if 68 degrees "bakes you" that it would be impossible for the 49ers to predict that 68 degrees would need shade to cool people off? I know if I see that a November day has a high of 68 degrees I'm thinking that's perfect weather to watch a game while out in the sun. Who can plan for 68 degrees feeling like 110 degrees to some fans?

Originally posted by captveg:
Been there, done it.

I've also been to Dodger Stadium for day games that were 95-100 degrees. One just needs to deal with it.

nothing like paying money to go to a game and having to "deal with it". Why not design something to make it a comfortable fan experience?

Originally posted by captveg:
But then can you at least agree that if 68 degrees "bakes you" that it would be impossible for the 49ers to predict that 68 degrees would need shade to cool people off? I know if I see that a November day has a high of 68 degrees I'm thinking that's perfect weather to watch a game while out in the sun. Who can plan for 68 degrees feeling like 110 degrees to some fans?

they did predict it, that's the issue. It was recommended to York to change the stadium design but he wanted to press forward and just put the stadium in, using the stadium design that was originally designed for candlestick park weather.

Originally posted by ShadedSideofLevis:

Originally posted by captveg:
Been there, done it.

I've also been to Dodger Stadium for day games that were 95-100 degrees. One just needs to deal with it.

nothing like paying money to go to a game and having to "deal with it". Why not design something to make it a comfortable fan experience?

Because us 20th century Gen-X's couldn't predict the constant b***hing and moaning of the younger generation to this inane level.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by ShadedSideofLevis:

Originally posted by captveg:
Been there, done it.

I've also been to Dodger Stadium for day games that were 95-100 degrees. One just needs to deal with it.

nothing like paying money to go to a game and having to "deal with it". Why not design something to make it a comfortable fan experience?

Because us 20th century Gen-X's couldn't predict the constant b***hing and moaning of the younger generation to this inane level.

I'm generation X and find the seats in the sun at Levi's to be unbearably hot to sit in for 3 hours straight. Also used to work in a warehouse operating dozens of commercial ovens in summers in Sacramento, 110 outside way hotter inside. So not like I am not used to the heat.

Originally posted by ShadedSideofLevis:

Originally posted by captveg:
But then can you at least agree that if 68 degrees "bakes you" that it would be impossible for the 49ers to predict that 68 degrees would need shade to cool people off? I know if I see that a November day has a high of 68 degrees I'm thinking that's perfect weather to watch a game while out in the sun. Who can plan for 68 degrees feeling like 110 degrees to some fans?

they did predict it, that's the issue. It was recommended to York to change the stadium design but he wanted to press forward and just put the stadium in, using the stadium design that was originally designed for candlestick park weather.

Lie. They did NOT predict 68 degrees would feel like 110. That's an impossible prediction.

Now, did they predict it may get a little warm from time to time? Sure. But they also were thinking with the same mindset of every Northern California football stadium ever built. Their sin was in not predicting how entitled 21st century fans would be. They didn't do it to be cheap or meanies - they did it because it was the standard every stadium in the area had been built under for decades. It's an oversight in not being able to predict an aberration to the norm of the whole area of Northern California, which by definition is an unusual circumstance.

So, people need to let if the f**k go about the shade structure. Not. Gonna. Happen.

Now, could they look into other solutions? Sure. Maybe they install A/C under all the seats and just pump cool air throughout the whole section and just deal with the electric bill. Maybe they look into different glass for the tower across the way that would reduce the reflection of the sunlight or alter the angle of the reflection. Or, my favorite idea, they change the seats to have a personal fan on the back that can be turned on if needed. They cannot build up and over, so maybe they can figure out an alternate way to appease the fans. (Heaven help them if they leave that A/C on in December and get "too cold and breezy" complaints...)

Originally posted by ShadedSideofLevis:

Originally posted by captveg:
But then can you at least agree that if 68 degrees "bakes you" that it would be impossible for the 49ers to predict that 68 degrees would need shade to cool people off? I know if I see that a November day has a high of 68 degrees I'm thinking that's perfect weather to watch a game while out in the sun. Who can plan for 68 degrees feeling like 110 degrees to some fans?

they did predict it, that's the issue. It was recommended to York to change the stadium design but he wanted to press forward and just put the stadium in, using the stadium design that was originally designed for candlestick park weather.

do you have proof of this claim.....

Originally posted by 9erReign:
I'm generation X and find the seats in the sun at Levi's to be unbearably hot to sit in for 3 hours straight. Also used to work in a warehouse operating dozens of commercial ovens in summers in Sacramento, 110 outside way hotter inside. So not like I am not used to the heat.

Thank you! thought I was taking crazy pills. Acoording to CaptVeg, if you find the sun beating down on you for three hours unfavorable, you are an entitled fan who constantly b***hes.

Originally posted by stefano89:
do you have proof of this claim.....

I don't remember where I heard or read it. I don't feel like digging through the depths of the internet skimming articles trying to find it. You can look for it if you like.

Originally posted by ShadedSideofLevis:

Originally posted by 9erReign:

I'm generation X and find the seats in the sun at Levi's to be unbearably hot to sit in for 3 hours straight. Also used to work in a warehouse operating dozens of commercial ovens in summers in Sacramento, 110 outside way hotter inside. So not like I am not used to the heat.

Thank you! thought I was taking crazy pills. Acoording to CaptVeg, if you find the sun beating down on you for three hours unfavorable, you are an entitled fan who constantly b***hes.

+1 my main issue is the unenjoyable fan experience that has been presented outside of the actual game after being asked to pay $100-200 dollars for a ticket into a stadium that's just a few years old. One would think with over a billion dollars spent that the comfort of the fans would have been taken into consideration.


These days I just go to fewer games so I can afford the premium of paying for tickets in the shade.

Originally posted by ShadedSideofLevis:
Acoording to CaptVeg, if you find the sun beating down on you for three hours unfavorable, you are an entitled fan who constantly b***hes.

Just because something is unfavorable that doesn't make it some national nightmare. People have been attending sport events in hot weather for decades upon decades. What makes the 2010s the time where this is now some unfathomable and line-in-the-sand issue? It's the entitlement of comfier options at home and in cities where they built domes because of far more extreme hot/cold weather. I just see no point in thinking it was some devious plan by Whitey Owners to swindle the poor consumer - a consumer that had paid to watch football in the sun at every level from High School to Pros in the Bay Area for decades and decades without the same persistent moaning. Being able to foresee this issue as being so dominant in the fan online conversation would have been some seriously amazing outside-the-box thinking considering the entire history of open air stadiums in the Bay Area.

Originally posted by jcs:
One would think with over a billion dollars spent that the comfort of the fans would have been taken into consideration.

They took it into consideration in a number of ways. They didn't foresee this particular burr in the ass of some vocal fans. It was not an intentional slight, but simply one that couldn't foresee the previously unseen.

Originally posted by 9erReign:
I'm generation X and find the seats in the sun at Levi's to be unbearably hot to sit in for 3 hours straight. Also used to work in a warehouse operating dozens of commercial ovens in summers in Sacramento, 110 outside way hotter inside. So not like I am not used to the heat.

You're claiming that a literal 110 degree Sacramento heat feels cooler than 68 degree Levi's heat?

Levi's must be in the New Mystery Spot. 68 degrees is hotter than 110 degrees by some magical curse there I guess. The laws of physics cease to exist in Levi's!

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by ShadedSideofLevis:

Acoording to CaptVeg, if you find the sun beating down on you for three hours unfavorable, you are an entitled fan who constantly b***hes.

Just because something is unfavorable that doesn't make it some national nightmare. People have been attending sport events in hot weather for decades upon decades. What makes the 2010s the time where this is now some unfathomable and line-in-the-sand issue? It's the entitlement of comfier options at home and in cities where they built domes because of far more extreme hot/cold weather. I just see no point in thinking it was some devious plan by Whitey Owners to swindle the poor consumer - a consumer that had paid to watch football in the sun at every level from High School to Pros in the Bay Area for decades and decades without the same persistent moaning. Being able to foresee this issue as being so dominant in the fan online conversation would have been some seriously amazing outside-the-box thinking considering the entire history of open air stadiums in the Bay Area.

Originally posted by jcs:

One would think with over a billion dollars spent that the comfort of the fans would have been taken into consideration.

They took it into consideration in a number of ways. They didn't foresee this particular burr in the ass of some vocal fans. It was not an intentional slight, but simply one that couldn't foresee the previously unseen.

It's not just local vocal fans complaining, the National media has taken their own turn consistently calling jeds Monster out for its poor fan experience.