Levi's Stadium pics and info...

Originally posted by captveg:
I'm sure you know the variable of evaporation rate of those locations and their insurance coverage, too.

Santa Clara's evaporation rate is a magnitude greater than either of the ones I posted from Florida, which, being an extremely humid state, has a poor evaporation rate on solid non-porous surfaces.

Keep trying though.

Originally posted by Janitor:
All of these places must have very extensive insurance policies far better than the 49ers...

http://www.microcoolmisting.com/misting-commercial-photos.htm

Jaguars stadium has good insurance though



Hope the marlins have good insurance!



Lucky for the Royals they have an invisible force field that keeps all the spray from the water fountains contained and absolutely none of it ever touches the walkways



All the people in this photo slipped and died moments after it was taken



Just a shame that it's impossible for the 49ers to do it.

Jacksonville and Miami are in much higher temp climates. They are also in Florida, which I'm sure is a factor.

Those fountains in Kansas City have a clear green barrier space between the fountains and the walkways. You think that is there just for aesthetics?

I don't know where the 4th pic is from, but I do see palm trees. Seems like the natural temperature is likely to be higher than San Jose.

Originally posted by Janitor:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Janitor:
Or they could, you know, put a slip resistant coating on the areas where the misters would be.

Again, it is ABSOLUTELY doable, the 49ers just don't want to. And they should be honest about that rather than insult our intelligence by saying it isn't possible.

Doable and reasonably affordable are different things. Would slip resistant coating be enough to satisfy insurance and higher premiums without making those premiums unreasonable for a stadium to get for such an isolated thing? Only the team knows for sure. You choose to believe they are lying to you, that they are twisting their hands and eagerly awaiting you to die in the heat as they maniacally laugh to themselves. I figure the team is like most businesses and have to think about cost/benefit, so if they say that misters are impossible because of the slip/fall liability, I can reasonably assume they mean the cost of their insurance would go higher than is reasonable to them.

But then again, low intelligences are insulted easily.

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I'm not walking anything back. Your lack of ability to comprehend the context of what I stated before has become rather blatant, however. Whether something is "possible" was not intended literally, but was assumed that people would reasonably understand that other factors rather than physical reality was involved. It's possible Levi's could have a shuttle launch bay some day too, but I think people would understand if Al Guido said it "wasn't possible" that he wasn't being strictly literal in the "it cannot physically be built" sense.

Originally posted by Janitor:
Santa Clara's evaporation rate is a magnitude greater than either of the ones I posted from Florida, which, being an extremely humid state, has a poor evaporation rate on solid non-porous surfaces.

Keep trying though.

Okay, that's true. I'll grant you that one. Still Florida vs. California, which is more than likely a notable difference for liability.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Janitor:

All of these places must have very extensive insurance policies far better than the 49ers...

http://www.microcoolmisting.com/misting-commercial-photos.htm

Jaguars stadium has good insurance though



Hope the marlins have good insurance!



Lucky for the Royals they have an invisible force field that keeps all the spray from the water fountains contained and absolutely none of it ever touches the walkways



All the people in this photo slipped and died moments after it was taken



Just a shame that it's impossible for the 49ers to do it.

Jacksonville and Miami are in much higher temp climates. They are also in Florida, which I'm sure is a factor.

Those fountains in Kansas City have a clear green barrier space between the fountains and the walkways. You think that is there just for aesthetics?

I don't know where the 4th pic is from, but I do see palm trees. Seems like the natural temperature is likely to be higher than San Jose.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Seems like you're just making up bs excuses. I doubt getting insurance for mist water would double or triple their insurance rates.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Janitor:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Originally posted by captveg:
FAA regulations would make this design impossible for Levi's. See: four pillars that double the height of the structure.

What are the actual regulations preventing this out of curiosity?

FAA regulations about the height of structures close to the landing paths of planes going into/out of San Jose International. My understanding is that Levi's current height is right up against the limit.

It can be done. Just like the misters can be done. It would be cost-prohibitive though. Which is why they should just say that instead of lying about it being impossible.

Misters cannot be done, because of moisture gathering on the walkways and creating slip & fall liability. Because the temperature is mid-80s and not actually 100+ the water from the misters won't evaporate sufficiently enough.

"MISTERS CANNOT BE DONE"

Looks like I understand the context quite well.

You are making up "facts" that you haven't backed up at all about evaporation rates that are incredibly off base, and using it to falsely justify your position, while ignoring the fact that stadiums, and other public venues, all over the world have installed them without issue.

Warnings handed out. Chill the hell out

Originally posted by susweel:
You have no idea what you're talking about. Seems like you're just making up bs excuses. I doubt getting insurance for mist water would double or triple their insurance rates.

The insurance thing is entirely made up. It's a non-factor. All they would need is an ANSI rated slip resistant surface, and a little bit of signage, just to be safe.

Originally posted by Janitor:

Originally posted by susweel:

You have no idea what you're talking about. Seems like you're just making up bs excuses. I doubt getting insurance for mist water would double or triple their insurance rates.

The insurance thing is entirely made up. It's a non-factor. All they would need is an ANSI rated slip resistant surface, and a little bit of signage, just to be safe.

Agreed it's very doable, how much it would help is arguable but it could be done easily.

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by Janitor:

Originally posted by susweel:
You have no idea what you're talking about. Seems like you're just making up bs excuses. I doubt getting insurance for mist water would double or triple their insurance rates.

The insurance thing is entirely made up. It's a non-factor. All they would need is an ANSI rated slip resistant surface, and a little bit of signage, just to be safe.

Agreed it's very doable, how much it would help is arguable but it could be done easily.

Absolutely. It may not be worth the trouble, and people might not even like it. The FO could have just said "We evaluated it and don't think it is a good use of resources at this time", instead of the BS "It's just not possible".

Originally posted by Janitor:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Janitor:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Originally posted by captveg:
FAA regulations would make this design impossible for Levi's. See: four pillars that double the height of the structure.

What are the actual regulations preventing this out of curiosity?

FAA regulations about the height of structures close to the landing paths of planes going into/out of San Jose International. My understanding is that Levi's current height is right up against the limit.

It can be done. Just like the misters can be done. It would be cost-prohibitive though. Which is why they should just say that instead of lying about it being impossible.

Misters cannot be done, because of moisture gathering on the walkways and creating slip & fall liability. Because the temperature is mid-80s and not actually 100+ the water from the misters won't evaporate sufficiently enough.

"MISTERS CANNOT BE DONE"

Looks like I understand the context quite well.

You are making up "facts" that you haven't backed up at all about evaporation rates that are incredibly off base, and using it to falsely justify your position, while ignoring the fact that stadiums, and other public venues, all over the world have installed them without issue.

Are you really so dense and thickheaded that you IGNORE the statement of "because" RIGHT afterwards, which specifically sites liability, NOT the invention of misters? The inference was more than obvious that it wasn't about literal ability to install them, but concerned other factors, among them the natural temperature evaporation date.

If you REALLY feel the Guido is lying to you about the temperature issue which in their view makes it not a viable solution you are more than welcome to take him up on the matter, sue him and/or the team, etc.

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Warnings handed out. Chill the hell out

That's what the misters are for bruh

adding misters at levis stadium for the first couple of home games

the most heated debate of our lifetime

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:

Warnings handed out. Chill the hell out

Originally posted by captveg:

Are you really so dense and thickheaded that you IGNORE the statement of "because" RIGHT afterwards, which specifically sites liability, NOT the invention of misters? The inference was more than obvious that it wasn't about literal ability to install them, but concerned other factors, among them the natural temperature evaporation date.

If you REALLY feel the Guido is lying to you about the temperature issue which in their view makes it not a viable solution you are more than welcome to take him up on the matter, sue him and/or the team, etc.

I don't think he heard you.

And now timeouts. Don't pile on