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Aug 30, 2018 at 2:43 PM
Originally posted by Furlow:

The stadium is poorly designed, robbed the locals, and the ownership is too cheap to fix it. It's okay to love the players and root for the team, but still admit the stadium is a joke and the owners are greedy a**holes.

Aug 30, 2018 at 2:44 PM
Questions for you Furlow: Are you a season ticket holder? And how many games have you been to?
Aug 30, 2018 at 2:45 PM
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Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by Furlow:

The stadium is poorly designed, robbed the locals, and the ownership is too cheap to fix it. It's okay to love the players and root for the team, but still admit the stadium is a joke and the owners are greedy a**holes.


Lol true.
Aug 30, 2018 at 2:49 PM
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Originally posted by Furlow:
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You said it yourself, you're not a season ticket holder. Lol. Where are your friend's seats? How much were their PSL's? I suppose for fans in the upper deck on that side, they shouldn't complain too much. They knew those we're not premium seats and would always be in the sun up that high.
"You said it yourself, you're not a season ticket holder. Lol." (Not sure how that's an "Lol"...I can't afford season tickets to be honest). "Where are your friend's seats? How much were their PSL's?" (None of your business).

We obviously have different perspectives on this. We'll agree to disagree.

It's an LOL because I'm arguing on behalf of season ticket holders. They are the ones who got screwed. Anyone who goes to a game here or there and gets their ticket from StubHub has no right telling someone who forked over tens of thousands of dollars to "toughen up." GTFO with that nonsense.

The stadium is poorly designed, robbed the locals, and the ownership is too cheap to fix it. It's okay to love the players and root for the team, but still admit the stadium is a joke and the owners are greedy a**holes.

You can have your opinion - and no one's telling you to "toughen up". But I couldn't disagree more with you about your comments that season ticket holders "are the ones who got screwed" (I know a lot of them and no one's telling me this - again, wish I was a season ticket holder)...that "the stadium is poorly designed" (couldn't disagree more from my experience and in talking to others who have been)...and the rest of your last paragraph. I don't know any fellow 49er fans here in the Bay Area, season ticket holders or not, who have these same sentiments as you. Again, you're entitled to your own opinion and whatever floats your boat. As I said, we'll agree to disagree.
Aug 30, 2018 at 2:54 PM
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Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
+ Show all quotes "You said it yourself, you're not a season ticket holder. Lol." (Not sure how that's an "Lol"...I can't afford season tickets to be honest). "Where are your friend's seats? How much were their PSL's?" (None of your business).

We obviously have different perspectives on this. We'll agree to disagree.

It's an LOL because I'm arguing on behalf of season ticket holders. They are the ones who got screwed. Anyone who goes to a game here or there and gets their ticket from StubHub has no right telling someone who forked over tens of thousands of dollars to "toughen up." GTFO with that nonsense.

The stadium is poorly designed, robbed the locals, and the ownership is too cheap to fix it. It's okay to love the players and root for the team, but still admit the stadium is a joke and the owners are greedy a**holes.

You can have your opinion - and no one's telling you to "toughen up". But I couldn't disagree more with you about your comments that season ticket holders "are the ones who got screwed" (I know a lot of them and no one's telling me this - again, wish I was a season ticket holder)...that "the stadium is poorly designed" (couldn't disagree more from my experience and in talking to others who have been)...and the rest of your last paragraph. I don't know any fellow 49er fans here in the Bay Area, season ticket holders or not, who have these same sentiments as you. Again, you're entitled to your own opinion and whatever floats your boat. As I said, we'll agree to disagree.

You must be new to the thread lol. A lot of people in here are saying "toughen up." And I guess you and your friends are the part of the few season ticket holders who don't mind the sun. If they're actually season ticket holders. Weird that you can't say where they're located or how much their PSL's were. Not asking for seat numbers lol.
Aug 30, 2018 at 2:59 PM
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Aug 30, 2018 at 3:03 PM
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Originally posted by Furlow:
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It's an LOL because I'm arguing on behalf of season ticket holders. They are the ones who got screwed. Anyone who goes to a game here or there and gets their ticket from StubHub has no right telling someone who forked over tens of thousands of dollars to "toughen up." GTFO with that nonsense.

The stadium is poorly designed, robbed the locals, and the ownership is too cheap to fix it. It's okay to love the players and root for the team, but still admit the stadium is a joke and the owners are greedy a**holes.

You can have your opinion - and no one's telling you to "toughen up". But I couldn't disagree more with you about your comments that season ticket holders "are the ones who got screwed" (I know a lot of them and no one's telling me this - again, wish I was a season ticket holder)...that "the stadium is poorly designed" (couldn't disagree more from my experience and in talking to others who have been)...and the rest of your last paragraph. I don't know any fellow 49er fans here in the Bay Area, season ticket holders or not, who have these same sentiments as you. Again, you're entitled to your own opinion and whatever floats your boat. As I said, we'll agree to disagree.

You must be new to the thread lol. A lot of people in here are saying "toughen up." And I guess you and your friends are the part of the few season ticket holders who don't mind the sun. If they're actually season ticket holders. Weird that you can't say where they're located or how much their PSL's were. Not asking for seat numbers lol.

Think what you want to think. I'm not giving you any info related to fellow fans I know that are season ticket holders - I don't even know you. To be honest, I've never asked them how much they paid for their seat licenses - there are quite a few of them and it's none of my business, anyway. Don't want to derail this thread. Feel free to PM me if you've got any more issues with what I've posted.
Aug 30, 2018 at 4:39 PM
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
+ Show all quotes "You said it yourself, you're not a season ticket holder. Lol." (Not sure how that's an "Lol"...I can't afford season tickets to be honest). "Where are your friend's seats? How much were their PSL's?" (None of your business).

We obviously have different perspectives on this. We'll agree to disagree.

It's an LOL because I'm arguing on behalf of season ticket holders. They are the ones who got screwed. Anyone who goes to a game here or there and gets their ticket from StubHub has no right telling someone who forked over tens of thousands of dollars to "toughen up." GTFO with that nonsense.

The stadium is poorly designed, robbed the locals, and the ownership is too cheap to fix it. It's okay to love the players and root for the team, but still admit the stadium is a joke and the owners are greedy a**holes.

You can have your opinion - and no one's telling you to "toughen up". But I couldn't disagree more with you about your comments that season ticket holders "are the ones who got screwed" (I know a lot of them and no one's telling me this - again, wish I was a season ticket holder)...that "the stadium is poorly designed" (couldn't disagree more from my experience and in talking to others who have been)...and the rest of your last paragraph. I don't know any fellow 49er fans here in the Bay Area, season ticket holders or not, who have these same sentiments as you. Again, you're entitled to your own opinion and whatever floats your boat. As I said, we'll agree to disagree.

Speaking as a Season Ticket holder I can say that I don't feel screwed, I don't think it's poorly designed, or that the owners are too cheap to improve it.

I think its a pretty damn nice stadium that I apologize, doesn't look like a spaceship (Dallas, Arizona), a Jawa Sandcrawler (Minn), or an enormous sphincter (Atlanta). It isn't domed or covered because we live in the freakin Bay Area.

I like the stadium, think its a HUGE upgrade over Candlestick, and I think anyone thinking objectively can't say otherwise. I mean seriously...just the size of the concourses alone is an enormous difference. Being able to go get food and still watch the game is so much better.

Somewhere along the line, IMO many people decided they wanted to hate it and look for any and all reasons to do so. All this team needs is a winner. Once huge games take place in that building people will start to think of it more fondly. I mean seriously, what do you think people thought of Candlestick when they moved from Kezar?
[ Edited by Marvin49 on Aug 30, 2018 at 4:42 PM ]
Aug 30, 2018 at 4:54 PM
Originally posted by captveg:
I don't get the PSL argument at all. A ton of fans for other teams paid PSL only to sit in the rain/snow for several games every year, which isn't super convenient for every fan, either. PSLs are simply the MO of all stadiums built for 25 years now. There's no perfect comfort all the time guarantee because of PSLs.

To me, this is just another case of spoiled fans.

The same fans that hated Steve Young for having the audacity not to be born Joseph Montana are the ones who b***h about the heat at Levis and complain about the prices of PSLs (or SBLs) because they had some of the cheapest tickets in the NFL at Candlestick for DECADES. That was simply because the building was in such bad shape.

Some people couldn't afford the SBLs or tickets now. That's cool. No harm there...but the reality is that tickets for NFL games are expensive. That isn't a case though of the 49ers screwing you. That's the 49ers Privately Financing 90% of a new building to stay in the Bay Area for the next 40+ years and the money has to come from somewhere. If it doesn't come from taxes, it has to come from fans to GO TO THE GAMES. Simple as that.

Moreover, this is the model of NFL stadiums. The 49ers didn't pioneer this approach. This is how its done.

Wanna complain about how the team charges so much and then makes a ton of money?

Ask yourself this....The Raiders right now are in a standoff with Khalil Mack because it is very likely that Mark Davis can't afford to put the Guaranteed money he would need into escrow to sign him.

The 49ers meanwhile were able to put Jimmy Garoppolos 74 Mil in escrow without much problem. I ain't complaining.
Aug 30, 2018 at 7:04 PM
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Originally posted by Marvin49:
To me, this is just another case of spoiled fans.

The same fans that hated Steve Young for having the audacity not to be born Joseph Montana are the ones who b***h about the heat at Levis and complain about the prices of PSLs (or SBLs) because they had some of the cheapest tickets in the NFL at Candlestick for DECADES. That was simply because the building was in such bad shape.

Some people couldn't afford the SBLs or tickets now. That's cool. No harm there...but the reality is that tickets for NFL games are expensive. That isn't a case though of the 49ers screwing you. That's the 49ers Privately Financing 90% of a new building to stay in the Bay Area for the next 40+ years and the money has to come from somewhere. If it doesn't come from taxes, it has to come from fans to GO TO THE GAMES. Simple as that.

Moreover, this is the model of NFL stadiums. The 49ers didn't pioneer this approach. This is how its done.

Wanna complain about how the team charges so much and then makes a ton of money?

Ask yourself this....The Raiders right now are in a standoff with Khalil Mack because it is very likely that Mark Davis can't afford to put the Guaranteed money he would need into escrow to sign him.

The 49ers meanwhile were able to put Jimmy Garoppolos 74 Mil in escrow without much problem. I ain't complaining.

It's being reported he can. This is more about the head coach/de facto GM being stubborn apparently. [Gruden runs the show there not McKenzie]
[ Edited by FL9er on Aug 30, 2018 at 7:04 PM ]
Aug 30, 2018 at 10:24 PM
Originally posted by FL9er:
It's being reported he can. This is more about the head coach/de facto GM being stubborn apparently. [Gruden runs the show there not McKenzie]

They are limited by how much cash on hand they have. That's the biggest difference teams with big money have, signing bonus money.
Aug 30, 2018 at 10:26 PM
Originally posted by Marvin49:
To me, this is just another case of spoiled fans.

The same fans that hated Steve Young for having the audacity not to be born Joseph Montana are the ones who b***h about the heat at Levis and complain about the prices of PSLs (or SBLs) because they had some of the cheapest tickets in the NFL at Candlestick for DECADES. That was simply because the building was in such bad shape.

Some people couldn't afford the SBLs or tickets now. That's cool. No harm there...but the reality is that tickets for NFL games are expensive. That isn't a case though of the 49ers screwing you. That's the 49ers Privately Financing 90% of a new building to stay in the Bay Area for the next 40+ years and the money has to come from somewhere. If it doesn't come from taxes, it has to come from fans to GO TO THE GAMES. Simple as that.

Moreover, this is the model of NFL stadiums. The 49ers didn't pioneer this approach. This is how its done.

Wanna complain about how the team charges so much and then makes a ton of money?

Ask yourself this....The Raiders right now are in a standoff with Khalil Mack because it is very likely that Mark Davis can't afford to put the Guaranteed money he would need into escrow to sign him.

The 49ers meanwhile were able to put Jimmy Garoppolos 74 Mil in escrow without much problem. I ain't complaining.

Insert standard "You're just defending billionaire owners" comment here ____________.
Aug 31, 2018 at 2:22 AM
I had skin cancer on my cheek removed earlier this year, and I'm only 31 Sitting in the direct sunlight for 3+ hours is most likely a no-go for me, even with sunscreen on. Goddamn sensitive skin

I would say something like that could be a valid complaint about the heat at a stadium. But, knowing my condition, I would most likely never bother going to a day game there because of that
Sep 1, 2018 at 2:07 AM
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Originally posted by SFGiant49ers:
I had skin cancer on my cheek removed earlier this year, and I'm only 31 Sitting in the direct sunlight for 3+ hours is most likely a no-go for me, even with sunscreen on. Goddamn sensitive skin

I would say something like that could be a valid complaint about the heat at a stadium. But, knowing my condition, I would most likely never bother going to a day game there because of that

Insert standard "you're spoiled and need to toughen up" comment here ___________.
Sep 1, 2018 at 9:55 AM
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