2009 49ers acccording to Football Outsiders...

I love it. Objective statistical analysis from a niner fan who also predicts not-so-great things from the team under MS - not that it's difficult to come to that conclusion since myself and several others have done so without even reviewing all of the supporting stats mentioned in the article. It's looking more and more like the "trolls" might know what they're talking about.

Originally posted by Sabrason:
I love it. Objective statistical analysis from a niner fan who also predicts not-so-great things from the team under MS - not that it's difficult to come to that conclusion since myself and several others have done so without even reviewing all of the supporting stats mentioned in the article. It's looking more and more like the "trolls" might know what they're talking about.

Maybe you should check back when the 2011 season starts.

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by Sabrason:
I love it. Objective statistical analysis from a niner fan who also predicts not-so-great things from the team under MS - not that it's difficult to come to that conclusion since myself and several others have done so without even reviewing all of the supporting stats mentioned in the article. It's looking more and more like the "trolls" might know what they're talking about.

You should go root for the Cowboys.

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Sabrason

(1) You're just scared to put some faith in our 9ers, for fear that your little heart will be broken.

(2) You have an undisclosed bias of Mike Singletary... personally.

(3) You enjoy going against the grain just to elicit reactions from others.

(4) You enjoy going against the grain because yelling " I told you so " is more important to your e-ego than simply putting some trust in a conclusion that you couldn't possibly know with any certainty.

Either way, the fact that you are here so much and state the same things so often is puzzling. Have you nothing better to do and nowhere better to go? ( since you are so sure that SF is in for a wasted season )

Originally posted by oldman9er:
Sabrason

(1) You're just scared to put some faith in our 9ers, for fear that your little heart will be broken.

(2) You have an undisclosed bias of Mike Singletary... personally.

(3) You enjoy going against the grain just to elicit reactions from others.

(4) You enjoy going against the grain because yelling " I told you so " is more important to your e-ego than simply putting some trust in a conclusion that you couldn't possibly know with any certainty.

Either way, the fact that you are here so much and state the same things so often is puzzling. Have you nothing better to do and nowhere better to go? ( since you are so sure that SF is in for a wasted season )

It's no wonder why the "but I hope I'm wrong" caveats at the end of some posts from "The SS" (Sabrason and singfan) ring hollow.

I'm just glad the team has a coaching staff that seems to energize and motivate them to do more. We don't need some retread like Shanny living off past successes - Shanny was somehow a genius when he was working with Elway and before that, Steve Young, but gee, he hasn't really done that much with a group he has to develop himself. Maybe he's not that great after all.

And, Danimal, do you really believe it shows disrespect to Joe and Steve to compare other QB's to them? Really? Because that's what happens to all great players - other players get compared to them. All coaches around here get compared to Bill Walsh as well. Does that surprise anyone around here? If it surprises or annoys you that coaches get compared to the greatest coach we've ever had around here, you need to get into the real world. That's part of how the real world works. We compare ourselves and others to those who are successful in an effort to recreate that success.

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Screw all that crap, lets play some football and SEE what happens, stats and all that "On Paper" crap pisses me off! 29 days til Denver baby then all this crap starts to get real!

No one gave the 81 Niners any chance either!

Originally posted by oldman9er:
Sabrason

(1) You're just scared to put some faith in our 9ers, for fear that your little heart will be broken.

(2) You have an undisclosed bias of Mike Singletary... personally.

(3) You enjoy going against the grain just to elicit reactions from others.

(4) You enjoy going against the grain because yelling " I told you so " is more important to your e-ego than simply putting some trust in a conclusion that you couldn't possibly know with any certainty.

Either way, the fact that you are here so much and state the same things so often is puzzling. Have you nothing better to do and nowhere better to go? ( since you are so sure that SF is in for a wasted season )

Is that you EZRider???

Originally posted by BrodieFan:
I'm just glad the team has a coaching staff that seems to energize and motivate them to do more. We don't need some retread like Shanny living off past successes - Shanny was somehow a genius when he was working with Elway and before that, Steve Young, but gee, he hasn't really done that much with a group he has to develop himself. Maybe he's not that great after all.

You believe this comes from a supposed "long-time" niner fan? Sounds more like a MS/Bear fan to me - shameful.

Originally posted by SanFranAddic:

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Screw all that crap, lets play some football and SEE what happens, stats and all that "On Paper" crap pisses me off! 29 days til Denver baby then all this crap starts to get real!

No one gave the 81 Niners any chance either!

Ha ha yup bring on the f**kin season already

I love how singletary has already shown hes a better coach than nolan but people gave nolans teams more of a shot than theyre giving sinletarys team. hilarious.

Originally posted by PA9erFaithful:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by Sabrason:
I love it. Objective statistical analysis from a niner fan who also predicts not-so-great things from the team under MS - not that it's difficult to come to that conclusion since myself and several others have done so without even reviewing all of the supporting stats mentioned in the article. It's looking more and more like the "trolls" might know what they're talking about.

You should go root for the Cowboys.

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Ha ha roflmao
f**kin toooofunny!

Originally posted by WillistheWall:
I love how singletary has already shown hes a better coach than nolan but people gave nolans teams more of a shot than theyre giving sinletarys team. hilarious.

Yup he even got a neat little catch phrase!
ROLLIN WIT NOLAN
Ha ha its algood tho we all had hope man! What's the point in being a fan! Our team plays in 180 fashion compared to when nolan ran things. Ok credit due to nolan for the 2nd half of season when he took over for billy davis. And started the killa kieth!
Goniners
Singletary>nolan!
Im wit ya on this wtw
And well that rollin thing was cool when there was hope for em. But I just never had it in me to use it. He never convinced me of anything but bringing in good players

What's Shanahan done since he lost Elway? He was a great OC while he was here but QB's like Steve Young and John Elway tend to make an offensive coordinator look real good. Shanahan wasn't such a genius after he lost his HOF QB's, was he.

Originally posted by Cuphalffull:

Originally posted by KasparHauser:
Football Outsiders, a statistics-based football analysis company, recently came out with their rankings and these were their predictions for the 2009 Niners:

2009 Mean Projection: 5.7 wins
On the Clock (0-3 wins): 15%
Loserville (4-6): 51%
Mediocrity (7-8): 22%
Playoff Contender (9-10): 10%
Super Bowl Contender (11+): 2%

In my opinion, these guys are very good at what they do. They "smartly" look at the stats, and take stat analysis further than any other company that I have found. If they are correct, the 2009 Niners will be bad, real bad, and have a 51% chance of winning 4-6 games.

While I think the 2009 Niners will be 10-6, 9-7, or 8-8, I trust Football Outsiders. I don't want to be a homer and disregard the stats so I am more confused than ever. I think Barrows stated it best when he said he is "cautiously optimistic" for the 2009 49ers.

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