When will Michael Crabtree be signed? | Page 23

Aug 7, 2009 at 8:08 AM

aacadena
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Originally posted by mayo63:
Maybe this could be a good thing in the negotiations. Maybe both sides see that this thing could get ugly if both don't compromise on this thing.

But the 49ers should not compromise with him. He's number 10, that's the way the cookie crumbled becasue of a few things, like his injured foot, him not being able to run the 40, becasue he already looked kinda slow in college (and no he's not Larry Fitzgerald, cuz Larry just has "IT" and did not play in a Spread Offense). SO why should they pay him more then the 10th pick, it's not logical, and if the 49ers do pay more than what's expected, what's gonna happen with the Rookies next year???

Aug 7, 2009 at 8:09 AM

#332

carlgo
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Do they still sell that brand of dog food "gravy train"?

Being a coach is like being the dog whisperer.

Aug 7, 2009 at 8:09 AM

#333

toeknee
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Originally posted by Tyler82:
My question is did we just draft a brand new TO???? God I hope not

i love t.o.

Aug 7, 2009 at 8:11 AM

#334

toeknee
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Originally posted by olapac:
Originally posted by jerryricefan80:
Originally posted by mayo63:
DHB got $38M over 5yrs., just give Crabtree something similar. Wouldn't $35M over 5 yrs. do it. If not, the guy is a greedy b*****d and I don't want him on our team.

You can't base a regular contract off of crazy Al Davis and the Raiders front office contracts they agree to. DHB was overpaid. Crabs, his "advisor" and Parker are basing their contract needs off of a predicted draft position that never occurred.

Personally, I think it would be bad for the future if the team offers Crab a contract anywhere close to the DHB terms, and especially bad if they cave in and give him more than DHB. Can you imagine future draft picks and free agents saying, "you gave him more money, what about me"??

I wouldn't mind a deal closer to the #9 slot, or maybe slightly more. But anything near DHB's deal is trouble for the franchise trying to sign future picks.

not if there's a rookie pay scale

but my understanding of a pay scale is there's no negotiating that contract, which would mean no more stupid rookie hold outs

but that's if the scale happens, i think this crabtree saga is going to make the players push hard for it, look at jay feely's comments

Aug 7, 2009 at 8:12 AM

#335

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Parker seems to know that His Cousin played the "trump" card of a holdout option way too early......bad move...niners stick to your guns...

Aug 7, 2009 at 8:13 AM

#336

ads_2006
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Originally posted by danimal:
marshall faulk was on so something. I don't think Crabtree pulls this s**t off on just any franchise. He perceives our organization as weak and desperate, and he wants to exploit that.

The whole league and NCAA awaits, is this franchise still the retarded step son of Eddie D...or on its way back?

Crabs pulls this on any team not in the top 5....

I Think all franchises have given a bad contract or two during there history. The 49ers franchise isnt currently viewed as a top franchise anymore... because we havent been winning games.

Win some games (string together multiple winning seasons), and no one will think this franchise is weak and desperate.

[ Edited by ads_2006 on Aug 7, 2009 at 08:18:05 ]

Aug 7, 2009 at 8:15 AM

#337

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Originally posted by teeohh:
Originally posted by olapac:
Originally posted by jerryricefan80:
Originally posted by mayo63:
DHB got $38M over 5yrs., just give Crabtree something similar. Wouldn't $35M over 5 yrs. do it. If not, the guy is a greedy b*****d and I don't want him on our team.

You can't base a regular contract off of crazy Al Davis and the Raiders front office contracts they agree to. DHB was overpaid. Crabs, his "advisor" and Parker are basing their contract needs off of a predicted draft position that never occurred.

Personally, I think it would be bad for the future if the team offers Crab a contract anywhere close to the DHB terms, and especially bad if they cave in and give him more than DHB. Can you imagine future draft picks and free agents saying, "you gave him more money, what about me"??

I wouldn't mind a deal closer to the #9 slot, or maybe slightly more. But anything near DHB's deal is trouble for the franchise trying to sign future picks.

not if there's a rookie pay scale

but my understanding of a pay scale is there's no negotiating that contract, which would mean no more stupid rookie hold outs

but that's if the scale happens, i think this crabtree saga is going to make the players push hard for it, look at jay feely's comments

If they have a rookie pay scale in the collective bargaining agreement (50/50 at best) his contract will likely be lower than what he would get this year.

Aug 7, 2009 at 8:16 AM

#338

olapac
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Originally posted by teeohh:
Originally posted by olapac:
Originally posted by jerryricefan80:
Originally posted by mayo63:
DHB got $38M over 5yrs., just give Crabtree something similar. Wouldn't $35M over 5 yrs. do it. If not, the guy is a greedy b*****d and I don't want him on our team.

You can't base a regular contract off of crazy Al Davis and the Raiders front office contracts they agree to. DHB was overpaid. Crabs, his "advisor" and Parker are basing their contract needs off of a predicted draft position that never occurred.

Personally, I think it would be bad for the future if the team offers Crab a contract anywhere close to the DHB terms, and especially bad if they cave in and give him more than DHB. Can you imagine future draft picks and free agents saying, "you gave him more money, what about me"??

I wouldn't mind a deal closer to the #9 slot, or maybe slightly more. But anything near DHB's deal is trouble for the franchise trying to sign future picks.

not if there's a rookie pay scale

but my understanding of a pay scale is there's no negotiating that contract, which would mean no more stupid rookie hold outs

but that's if the scale happens, i think this crabtree saga is going to make the players push hard for it, look at jay feely's comments

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there couldn't be a rookie scale in place before the 2011, when a new CBA would be in place. The 2010 season would still be under the current rules.

Plus, free agents would still know us as the team that overpaid Crabtree, and there's no rookie scale for them.

Aug 7, 2009 at 8:18 AM

#339

jta854
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Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
Originally posted by LB49ers:
Way to pick advisors
The advisors history

. . . not good. After Crabtree signs this dude needs to stay a healthy distance away from Niner HQ.

One of the story's also reported that he was a body gaurd for pacman Jones.

Aug 7, 2009 at 8:19 AM

#340

global_nomad
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Originally posted by jta854:
Originally posted by teeohh:
Originally posted by olapac:
Originally posted by jerryricefan80:
Originally posted by mayo63:
DHB got $38M over 5yrs., just give Crabtree something similar. Wouldn't $35M over 5 yrs. do it. If not, the guy is a greedy b*****d and I don't want him on our team.

You can't base a regular contract off of crazy Al Davis and the Raiders front office contracts they agree to. DHB was overpaid. Crabs, his "advisor" and Parker are basing their contract needs off of a predicted draft position that never occurred.

Personally, I think it would be bad for the future if the team offers Crab a contract anywhere close to the DHB terms, and especially bad if they cave in and give him more than DHB. Can you imagine future draft picks and free agents saying, "you gave him more money, what about me"??

I wouldn't mind a deal closer to the #9 slot, or maybe slightly more. But anything near DHB's deal is trouble for the franchise trying to sign future picks.

not if there's a rookie pay scale

but my understanding of a pay scale is there's no negotiating that contract, which would mean no more stupid rookie hold outs

but that's if the scale happens, i think this crabtree saga is going to make the players push hard for it, look at jay feely's comments

If they have a rookie pay scale in the collective bargaining agreement (50/50 at best) his contract will likely be lower than what he would get this year.

Yep things are pretty bad for Crab when a KICKER across the country is calling you out:

"When I read that Crabtree is willing to sit out until next year I makes me laugh. How can an agent and player be so GREEDY & uncompromising. It further enhances the need to revamp our compensation for draft picks and create a hard cap on what each pick receives. Someone who has never achieved anything in the NFL yet should not be given a contract for more money than the best players in the NFL." -Jay Feely NY Jets Kicker

http://www.faniq.com/blog/Jay-Feely-Speaks-On-Michael-Crabtree-Blog-27702

[ Edited by global_nomad on Aug 7, 2009 at 08:22:08 ]

Aug 7, 2009 at 8:26 AM

#341

aacadena
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Since Bruce has "BBBBBRRRRRUUUUUCCCCEEEEE!!!!!" every time he catches a ball are we going to be saying "DDDDDDDIIIIIIIVVVVVVVAAAAAA" everytime crabtree catches a ball. I mean seriously you are what you were drafted and that's the 10th pick, not even the Top 5, if there is anyone to blame for your stock drop its your injured foot and DIVA personality. The DIVA is not a perception, it's a Reality that we're dealing with.

Aug 7, 2009 at 8:28 AM

#342

toeknee
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Originally posted by olapac:
Originally posted by teeohh:
Originally posted by olapac:
Originally posted by jerryricefan80:
Originally posted by mayo63:
DHB got $38M over 5yrs., just give Crabtree something similar. Wouldn't $35M over 5 yrs. do it. If not, the guy is a greedy b*****d and I don't want him on our team.

You can't base a regular contract off of crazy Al Davis and the Raiders front office contracts they agree to. DHB was overpaid. Crabs, his "advisor" and Parker are basing their contract needs off of a predicted draft position that never occurred.

Personally, I think it would be bad for the future if the team offers Crab a contract anywhere close to the DHB terms, and especially bad if they cave in and give him more than DHB. Can you imagine future draft picks and free agents saying, "you gave him more money, what about me"??

I wouldn't mind a deal closer to the #9 slot, or maybe slightly more. But anything near DHB's deal is trouble for the franchise trying to sign future picks.

not if there's a rookie pay scale

but my understanding of a pay scale is there's no negotiating that contract, which would mean no more stupid rookie hold outs

but that's if the scale happens, i think this crabtree saga is going to make the players push hard for it, look at jay feely's comments

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there couldn't be a rookie scale in place before the 2011, when a new CBA would be in place. The 2010 season would still be under the current rules.

Plus, free agents would still know us as the team that overpaid Crabtree, and there's no rookie scale for them.

yeah I may be wrong in thinking it will be in place for 2010, I thought this was the last year of it

Aug 7, 2009 at 8:29 AM

#343

LB49ers
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Many thought the Niners were a better team in 1900 than the Giants so we should have 6 superbowls even though we lost.

Aug 7, 2009 at 8:31 AM

#344

aacadena
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Originally posted by LB49ers:
Many thought the Niners were a better team in 1900 than the Giants so we should have 6 superbowls even though we lost.

s**t i didnt know we played in 1900....

But good analogy to represent the stupidity of their "logic"

Aug 7, 2009 at 8:31 AM

#345

Chief
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This is getting old, I don't care what you guys say he needs to sign. The dude is really starting to get hated, I won't be wearing my Crabtree jersey again until he proves something on the field.

It is being retired for now. My opinion of him is not very high at this point.