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Question of the Day: If Michael Crabtree were declared a free agent right now, how much guaranteed money would the high bidder offer him?

If 49ers raise guaranteed $ for No. 10 pick by a generous 20% from a year ago, Michael Crabtree would receive $16.6 M. Oak paid DHB $23.5 M.

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[ Edited by global_nomad on Aug 7, 2009 at 08:27:58 ]

He would get a lot, but it isn't really a fair question. If he was the only top-10 rookie that was being bid on, sure he would have a lot of suitors, and probably get a lot more money than a #10 normally gets. However, if you got rid of the draft, and all college players were free agents, then you would probably find that he would make less. The second round players would get more money, and the first round players except for a couple of elite would be offered less money. Why would this happen? As a team, you would have to ask yourself - do I want 5 2nd round players, or 1 top 10 player? I think most teams would choose the 2nd round players, and as a result the 2nd round price would become inflated.

It is a shame that this kid, who although showed great talent in college turned into a hold out. He is hurting himself if he sits out the season. Unfortunately, we cannot cut him loose now and recover our #10 slot giving us 3 first round picks. He has talent and plenty of potential, but in my opinion not enough to demand more money than where he was drafted. He was drafted at #10....period. I hope and pray that Our Beloved Team does not give in to this greedy kid's demands. This is only the beginning. Can you imagine what havoc he would cause in the locker room? Another cancer type player with talent. Not what this Team needs.

If he were declared a free agent today, I really doubt that he'd end up getting anything close to what he'll get as the #10 pick. Many teams would be turned off by his attitude and not want to deal with him (See T.O.). Teams don’t really enjoy giving rookies $20 million in guaranteed money. If they draft the guy they really don’t have a choice, but as a free agent it wouldn’t happen.

Originally posted by fryet:
He would get a lot, but it isn't really a fair question. If he was the only top-10 rookie that was being bid on, sure he would have a lot of suitors, and probably get a lot more money than a #10 normally gets. However, if you got rid of the draft, and all college players were free agents, then you would probably find that he would make less. The second round players would get more money, and the first round players except for a couple of elite would be offered less money. Why would this happen? As a team, you would have to ask yourself - do I want 5 2nd round players, or 1 top 10 player? I think most teams would choose the 2nd round players, and as a result the 2nd round price would become inflated.

the question is hypothetical, its not suppose to be compared to players who have just been drafted. Plus could you quantify that "He would get a lot" statement?

I think the question is stated to get you to think about how teams determine how much to pay "veteran" players who become free agents. You would pay them on their performance and numbers in the league right?

Crabtree is trying to get paid off of what he believes is his potential, but the Niners are not willing to pay him over $20 mil guaranteed until he has proven his production on he field.

if a proven veteran leader-type receiver like anquan boldin can't get a big contract, why would this hold out punk get anything?

sooo pissed this guy is holding out... 49ers can't catch a break!

Originally posted by MikeyVnutz:
if a proven veteran leader-type receiver like anquan boldin can't get a big contract, why would this hold out punk get anything?

sooo pissed this guy is holding out... 49ers can't catch a break!

True I bet if he were a F.A the highest bidder would offer him 7-9 mil in guaranteed money.

You don't see teams shelling out a lot of money for a guy coming off an injury. Even if he does have pro bowl talent. Look at Marvel Smith. Pro Bowler that didn't get all that much money based on his potential.

[ Edited by global_nomad on Aug 7, 2009 at 09:21:26 ]

100 Billion Dollars

I say trade his rights to a WR needy team for either a player of need or first round draft pick. Whether Crabtree eventually signs with the Niners or not he is going to be a problem, if not with the coaching staff then in the locker room. We should cut or losses while we're ahead.

Oh great another Crabtree thread. This was definitely needed.

Originally posted by KRS-1:
Oh great another Crabtree thread. This was definitely needed.

I think it's about time to make an official Crabtree thread, this is getting rediculous.

Originally posted by vermonator:

Originally posted by KRS-1:
Oh great another Crabtree thread. This was definitely needed.

I think it's about time to make an official Crabtree thread, this is getting rediculous.

I third that notion.

Originally posted by darkknight49:

Originally posted by vermonator:

Originally posted by KRS-1:
Oh great another Crabtree thread. This was definitely needed.

I think it's about time to make an official Crabtree thread, this is getting rediculous.

I third that notion.

4th

Originally posted by MikeyVnutz:
if a proven veteran leader-type receiver like anquan boldin can't get a big contract, why would this hold out punk get anything?

sooo pissed this guy is holding out... 49ers can't catch a break!

Originally posted by 49ers_4ever:
It is a shame that this kid, who although showed great talent in college turned into a hold out. He is hurting himself if he sits out the season. Unfortunately, we cannot cut him loose now and recover our #10 slot giving us 3 first round picks. He has talent and plenty of potential, but in my opinion not enough to demand more money than where he was drafted. He was drafted at #10....period. I hope and pray that Our Beloved Team does not give in to this greedy kid's demands. This is only the beginning. Can you imagine what havoc he would cause in the locker room? Another cancer type player with talent. Not what this Team needs.

t.o. all over again?