Paraag Marathe Thread

Hopefully after another losing season we can fly banners to have Marathe fired. Jed will have to find a new scapegoat anyway and there is no way he is firing (and continuing to pay) for a third coach after only one year.

Originally posted by Dsoto87:
Lol wut???

"He is the club's chief contract negotiator and salary cap architect, and also runs the team's football analytics efforts. He is responsible for the 49ers compliance with the NFL's collective bargaining agreement and works closely with general manager Trent Baalke on all aspects of the club's football operations, including the draft."

What input does he have? Does he make the picks? Or does he just give Baalke some sort of statistical report that he probably ignores? Baalke would just pick a bunch of DBs with ACL tears anyway. I doubt analytics support those decisions anyway.

Originally posted by Dsoto87:
"Marathe active game involvement is something that has been discussed in a limited manner, but has picked up a bit of steam more recently. Play calling and other football decisions – normally reserved the coaching staff – was a point of escalating tension under Nolan, Singletary and finally Jim Harbaugh's coaching tenure. Marathe – an analytics guru and numbers cruncher – often presented mid-game suggestions for Harbaugh to go for it on fourth down, or go for two instead of kicking an extra point. At certain points, Marathe was even given a chair in the coaches booth and put in charge of replays and determining whether or not to suggest challenging questionable calls."

If it was so annoying to coaches, then why hasn't anyone come forward and corroborated this story besides some random source and BASG? These other guys like Nolan and Singletary probably have no love for this organization anymore, so why haven't they come forward and say anything? Obviously, Harbaugh is keeping quiet about his relationship with Jed and Trent because he is a classy guy, but these other guys probably don't care.

Until then, I call bs. Even on the offchance that he might have gave the coaches some analytics about what to do on 4th down or where to call a challenge, it is still ultimately up to the coaches to pull the trigger. I wouldn't be surprised if Tomsula was probably forced to use his analytics because he was too much of a dumbass anyway.

Originally posted by smithgdwg:
Maybe after 15 consecutive losing seasons they will eventually figure out the problem is Jed and Paraag.

No. Jed needs to detach himself and needs to figure out the problem is Paraag.

When the owner is talking about changing the culture, the President of Football Ops is the one who is approving the old crap cultures.

And why isn't the President of Football Operations making himself available to do interviews about the state of the team? Why is the owner doing this? Marathe's title means he should be accountable for these things and make himself available.

I'm fine with him sitting in football meetings because that's his job title. His job title isn't solely Contract Specials or Analytics. It is President of Football Operations. He is the last stop for football decisions. The owner is simply a majority financial investor that hired Paraage to make "Football Decisions". It is Paraag's job to evaluate GM/HC relationship to see if they need to be fired. If he is doing this for his benefit and career ladder to eventually become a GM, then that's fine.

BUT
BUT

Why is Jed the one putting himself infront of that podium and taking all the hits that Paraag should be taking? Why doesn't the 49ers President of Football Operations take that stage, own up, and discuss the state of the team? This is where Jed's inexperience or "friendship" keeps bringing himself in the crosshair of the rifle and taking all the bullets.

Gotta be one of the most shadiest dynamics I have seen in the NFL or sports franchises.

This all makes for a terrific Hollywood script. Just no happy endings.

Considering how terrible this team has been on replay challenges, maybe this guy needs to be helping out a little less?

"Marathe active game involvement is something that has been discussed in a limited manner, but has picked up a bit of steam more recently. Play calling and other football decisions – normally reserved the coaching staff – was a point of escalating tension under Nolan, Singletary and finally Jim Harbaugh's coaching tenure. Marathe – an analytics guru and numbers cruncher – often presented mid-game suggestions for Harbaugh to go for it on fourth down, or go for two instead of kicking an extra point. At certain points, Marathe was even given a chair in the coaches booth and put in charge of replays and determining whether or not to suggest challenging questionable calls."

Originally posted by NCommand:

Absolutely! This isn't to absolve Baalke of blame. He certainly did enough to warrant a firing on several levels. The point of these points is the timing of this smear campaign, Kelly refuting it himself and the clear patterns we're seeing with Jed/Paraag at the helm over YEARS. Since they are the only two left in the house, I'd say it's pretty clear where the "culture" is really coming from. As a fan, it scares the hell out of me now and going forward. Jed flat out lied about Paraag's role. This man has been involved in every interview process, is in on talent evaluations, is in the booth, etc. and has never once had to answer a direct media question about his REAL role within this team and his qualifications for being an EVP of Football Operations. Given that that structure is not going to change anytime soon and with every day going by, more and more questions arise from he and Jed leading the next GM/HC search, I'm just cautioning fans to be leery of these things...be cautiously optimistic...but be leery. There is a very obvious pattern here and they tactics being used are certainly inline with a couple 30-somethings given full power and control over a multi-million dollar franchise.

Baalke did need to go, but I agree with you here. I'm not buying everything that's being leaked now, the timing is just too obvious. Reminds me of the Ponder leak, which I thought for sure was Baalke, but now I have my doubts. The anti Harb/Kap crowd see where we're coming from now with this FO. We weren't just making excuses, it was obvious to people that weren't against those 2. This org throws people under the bus to take the heat off themselves.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Absolutely! This isn't to absolve Baalke of blame. He certainly did enough to warrant a firing on several levels. The point of these points is the timing of this smear campaign, Kelly refuting it himself and the clear patterns we're seeing with Jed/Paraag at the helm over YEARS. Since they are the only two left in the house, I'd say it's pretty clear where the "culture" is really coming from. As a fan, it scares the hell out of me now and going forward. Jed flat out lied about Paraag's role. This man has been involved in every interview process, is in on talent evaluations, is in the booth, etc. and has never once had to answer a direct media question about his REAL role within this team and his qualifications for being an EVP of Football Operations. Given that that structure is not going to change anytime soon and with every day going by, more and more questions arise from he and Jed leading the next GM/HC search, I'm just cautioning fans to be leery of these things...be cautiously optimistic...but be leery. There is a very obvious pattern here and they tactics being used are certainly inline with a couple 30-somethings given full power and control over a multi-million dollar franchise.

Baalke did need to go, but I agree with you here. I'm not buying everything that's being leaked now, the timing is just too obvious. Reminds me of the Ponder leak, which I thought for sure was Baalke, but now I have my doubts. The anti Harb/Kap crowd see where we're coming from now with this FO. We weren't just making excuses, it was obvious to people that weren't against those 2. This org throws people under the bus to take the heat off themselves.

Certainly not refuting that on any level. But I'm now really wondering how much control a GM here really has. It's something to keep an eye on.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Considering how terrible this team has been on replay challenges, maybe this guy needs to be helping out a little less?

"Marathe active game involvement is something that has been discussed in a limited manner, but has picked up a bit of steam more recently. Play calling and other football decisions – normally reserved the coaching staff – was a point of escalating tension under Nolan, Singletary and finally Jim Harbaugh's coaching tenure. Marathe – an analytics guru and numbers cruncher – often presented mid-game suggestions for Harbaugh to go for it on fourth down, or go for two instead of kicking an extra point. At certain points, Marathe was even given a chair in the coaches booth and put in charge of replays and determining whether or not to suggest challenging questionable calls."

Don't we all understand? Paraag is supposed to be involved because he is the President of Football Ops. The issue isn't him being involved less, the issue is that he has been bad at his job and should be fired or demoted to simply salary capologist and nothing more.

Dumb and dumber calling the shots

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Now Rapoport trying his spin. Yet, the only thing he can focus on is his ground breaking contracts that many see as revolutionary. But this is something we all knew. He's the best in the biz that way (and well respected across the NFL this way).

He doesn't touch on his ACTUAL role as an EVP of Football Operations which was the original question.

http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/102370-rapoport-baffled-national-local-view-paraag-marathe-differ/

I don't know NC... the league is a small place and if there were huge concerns about that wouldn't we hear them? Isn't it at all a question that it seems the only one who hears them comes from Kawakami? I'm just asking. I guess for me, it's about talent on the field and the person who controls the roster; at the end of the day, the GM makes the decisions.

I'm just saying, Baalke can't escape responsibility for this roster.

Why would Baalke's boss or partner in football operations escape responsibility for the state of the roster and the coaching hires?

Interesting how when we were winning, peoples comments on Paraag were different. Check out the first page of this thread.

Didn't we just sign a futures contract? Who does this in isolation from the GM or coach? Is this normal?

Originally posted by Hitman49:

Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:

Has the genius contract writing helped our roster or hindered it?

Was it all Baalkes fault for the lack of quality players from FA or is the contract conditions by Paraag creating a red flag to potential players?

When it comes to Paraag's football philosophy it is not about getting the best player but getting the best available player at the right price(according to an interview he did about 10 years ago)...safe to say Ballke drafted this way and attacked the FA market this way and it has not worked...So I do believe Paraag is a huge hinder...His approach in building a roster doesn't work...

The only counter I would have to that is that they've spent money on FAs before, under Mcloughan. We got several guys who turned out to be cornerstones for the three year run we had. Justin Smith and Ahmad Brooks, for example. Not only that, but Mcloughan was a much better GM than Baalke IMO. He used FA and drafted really well for us, and Paraage was well-liked around the zone. Remember "the salary cap is his b****"?

I am still skeptical of York and Paraage, but given the right GM, I think that will fix a lot of these perceived problems. Who knows, maybe his ego has grown since then, and that could be causing the problems, but he's been good at that role before, and it was before the Harbaugh era, so I have hope that he's not the problem.

Originally posted by Joecool:
Don't we all understand? Paraag is supposed to be involved because he is the President of Football Ops. The issue isn't him being involved less, the issue is that he has been bad at his job and should be fired or demoted to simply salary capologist and nothing more.

He should have never been anymore involved than managing the salary cap and negotiating contracts. Beyond that, his job should be to serve at the behest of the GM, not the GM answering to him.

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

I don't really understand all the hate for this guy, when all he does is contracts. He let Kaepernick void his contract which is brilliant, otherwise we would have been stuck with this bum for even longer.

There is no proof that he does leaks, or has any meddling with the coaching staff. Only unsubstantiated rumors and fan lashing because they probably want a scapegoat after losing so many games.

Anyone want to prove me wrong with real proof? And no, I'm not a corporate shill working for the 49ers front office. Just legitimately curious.

He makes play call suggestions
He wrote the Field Management Guide that dictates what should be done in certain game situations and he has made all coaches since Nolan carry it
He wrote the guide for hiring coaches tha the 49ers have used since Nolan was hired
He has been a part of or led every coaching hunt since Nolan
He evaluates football dtalent for the draft and FA
He is the EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT OF FOOTBALL OPERATIONS
He is the CHIEF STRATEGY OFFICER