Paraag Marathe Thread

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Originally posted by Dsoto87:
Posts all the articles you want phoenix. Paraags mom and dad here don't care what you have to say. They know he's a good little boy with extensive football knowledge.

Paraag doesn't know jack s**t about football, and I never argued that he did.

I already said that I highly disagree with him and Jed interviewing head coaches because they have no business doing that. No idea about the X's and O's, or how to get a staff together that knows about football.

My question is, how much involvement did he really have with Baalke, McCloughan, and other GMs? How much involvement did he have with head coaches?

Because the local media overblows the stories, and wants to make scapegoats all the time just because we're losing football games for one reason or another. You see Kawakami always trying to stir up s**t.

The point is, I'm always a firm believer that you need talent in the NFL, and we haven't been drafting well or getting the right head coaches besides Harbaugh, who we ran out. I disagreed with Jed & Trent on that too. If Paraag was involved in that, then f**k him too. But other than that, what involvement has this guy really had in sinking this team?


He hasn't made any draft selections. He hasn't made a scheme for the talent on the field. The most I've heard about this guy is writing some "field guide", making some reports about when to go for it on 4th down, or advising the coaching staff on challenges? So what? None of these things are the driving factor for why we SUCK.

The biggest mystery is that someone who knows far less about football than possibly the worst GM candidate in the NFL is our President of Football Operations. That is the biggest issue I have and that is why I understand why the 49ers are a s**t mess.

All because I am sure it has a lot to do with Marathe and Jed being BFFs.

Originally posted by edp415:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by edp415:
the local guys have an agenda because they don't like York. the national guys are not biased and fair in their analysis.

Lol. 7 posts. Looks like Paraag has a few family members or too much time on his hands while he's "working" on 4949.

please don't accuse me of being someone else. I gave my opinion. you and other people disagreed with it which is fine. but don't accuse me of being someone else. that's just not right. I have a right t my opinion and you have the right to disagree with it.

Joins up...jumps straight into a Paraag Marathe thread?

Call me skeptical.

But I'll respect your stance either way.

Originally posted by edp415:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Why would Martha in the meeting room makes everyone feel threaten? Unless he's putting his 2cents in, which I don't think he's stupid enough to do, why would an NFL HC regard him any different than just another guy in the room.

Maybe Jed ask him to be in the meeting room to be his eyes and ears of what's happening from week to week with the team. Or the guy just wants to learn a little more of football and the players he's working the salary cap for.

People are turning him into someone sinister.

I know man. its ridiculous. I think its because he's indian or of indian heritage. I'm serious when I'm saying that. Indians typically don't play football (well in college and professionally) so when people hear that he's in meetings they seem have a judgement. just my opinion.

This guy!!

Do you really believe this? If you do, enable much? Don't discredit us Indians because I know a lot that can handle their own on the football field.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Also with Glazer retracting some of his comments about how Baalke was undermining Chip, makes you wonder who were these other people making that claim, who stands to benefit from tossing all the blame possible on a guy already out the door....

"Wanna clarify, Chip never told me Trent undercut him. I did, however, hear it from several others. Chip told me he wants to coach in NFL & would even take an OC job"

Called it! Someone may have gotten paid well...or sources were not ideal or well informed. Not surprising he's backtracking now after Kelly's OWN words say otherwise. Be leery of these things, fans. We know the patterns here.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Also with Glazer retracting some of his comments about how Baalke was undermining Chip, makes you wonder who were these other people making that claim, who stands to benefit from tossing all the blame possible on a guy already out the door....

"Wanna clarify, Chip never told me Trent undercut him. I did, however, hear it from several others. Chip told me he wants to coach in NFL & would even take an OC job"

Called it! Someone may have gotten paid well...or sources were not ideal or well informed. Not surprising he's backtracking now after Kelly's OWN words say otherwise. Be leery of these things, fans. We know the patterns here.

Hmmm, wonder who must have been observing in those meetings and could have misinterpreted a situation as undercutting.

That Paraag, always under the radar.

Where's Ralph Barbieri when you need him. Someone needs to yank Marathe from his hiding place.

Seriously though, how come the President of 49ers Football Operations doesn't want to stand in front of that microphone at the podium? If he doesn't want the attention or deal with the questions or the accountability, then maybe he should not have that title and the money that goes with it.

Jed is an idiot for deflecting from Paraag while Jed ends up taking all the shots.

Maybe Jed wasn't the biggest problem all along....maybe it was Paraag! I mean what exactly is his role? For someone that has a big title, you hardly ever see him. The only other times I've even heard his name is during player contract talks but isn't there another guy that handles contracts? Joan in accounting?

Originally posted by NinerGM:
Yes - read the Glazer article.

You mean the same Glazer that repeatedly posted absolutely certainly that Kelly was coming back for next year. Not sure how much I would trust what he is saying 100%.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by edp415:

I know man. its ridiculous. I think its because he's indian or of indian heritage. I'm serious when I'm saying that. Indians typically don't play football (well in college and professionally) so when people hear that he's in meetings they seem have a judgement. just my opinion.

lol, I don't give a damn if he's Indian, Irish or Peruvian. If his name was John Smith and coaches were constantly having the same issues with him being overly involved, if the team struggled as much during the time period he was ascending in the organization, it would still be just as much of an issue. Stop trying to interject race where it doesn't belong.

Originally posted by NinerGM:
Well Barrows is completely credible. Sounds like this WAS an issue and it looks like Marathe is a problem. I can't see any self-respecting GM coming in and giving up power to Marathe. I don't remember Jed saying that the new GM would report to Paraag and if that's the case, this is DOOMED and I'll pack my 49er fan gear and wait until the team is either given to another York or DeBartolo or the team is sold.

Jed-Paraag-GM-HC is a problem.

The major problem is that Marathe is Jed's employee. Marathe is also one of Jed's closest friends, if not his best friend. That creates a tremendous conflict of interest that simply should not exist. GM and HC candidates around the league are going to be reading that Yahoo piece from Charles Robinson as well as the comments by Barrows and if they aren't satisfied that Jed can restrain Marathe, they might end up looking elsewhere, or just staying where they are for the time being.

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Well Barrows is completely credible. Sounds like this WAS an issue and it looks like Marathe is a problem. I can't see any self-respecting GM coming in and giving up power to Marathe. I don't remember Jed saying that the new GM would report to Paraag and if that's the case, this is DOOMED and I'll pack my 49er fan gear and wait until the team is either given to another York or DeBartolo or the team is sold.

Jed-Paraag-GM-HC is a problem.

Totally, it automatically creates a toxic and untrusting relationship right out of the gate.

As a GM and HC, you're going to be reporting up to the EVP of Football Operations...but with no clear role on how this works. Where will Jed be and how much will he be involved?

Yet Parasg is leading interviews with Jed and they are hiring you. And then Paraag will be in on everything. Yet his expertise is the cap so you really need to have a great relationship with him especially if you're the GM.

But he's Jed's mole...his eyes and ears on the football side.

He's the equivalent to the Smoking Man on the X Files.

Originally posted by edp415:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by edp415:
the local guys have an agenda because they don't like York. the national guys are not biased and fair in their analysis.

Lol. 7 posts. Looks like Paraag has a few family members or too much time on his hands while he's "working" on 4949.

please don't accuse me of being someone else. I gave my opinion. you and other people disagreed with it which is fine. but don't accuse me of being someone else. that's just not right. I have a right t my opinion and you have the right to disagree with it.

it's just odd that of all 49ers things to have an opinion to, Paraag Marathe is the one that gets you out

Originally posted by NinerGM:

I say it's time for a banner before the season even starts:

PARAAG STOP MEDDLING.

LMAO. It's coming, I'm sure.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Totally, it automatically creates a toxic and untrusting relationship right out of the gate.

As a GM and HC, you're going to be reporting up to the EVP of Football Operations...but with no clear role on how this works. Where will Jed be and how much will he be involved?

Yet Parasg is leading interviews with Jed and they are hiring you. And then Paraag will be in on everything. Yet his expertise is the cap so you really need to have a great relationship with him especially if you're the GM.

But he's Jed's mole...his eyes and ears on the football side.

He's the equivalent to the Smoking Man on the X Files.

Originally posted by PowderdToastMn:
The only counter I would have to that is that they've spent money on FAs before, under Mcloughan. We got several guys who turned out to be cornerstones for the three year run we had. Justin Smith and Ahmad Brooks, for example. Not only that, but Mcloughan was a much better GM than Baalke IMO. He used FA and drafted really well for us, and Paraage was well-liked around the zone. Remember "the salary cap is his b****"?

I am still skeptical of York and Paraage, but given the right GM, I think that will fix a lot of these perceived problems. Who knows, maybe his ego has grown since then, and that could be causing the problems, but he's been good at that role before, and it was before the Harbaugh era, so I have hope that he's not the problem.

Originally posted by edp415:
people seem to be reading too much into paraag. all the guy does is salary cap. I don't care what a local columnist says. I care what a highly respected nfl insider that has no personal agenda thinks about a guy.

Look at his own words. This is from a 2015 interview that he did. Read it and ask yourself if you think he has no power in the final decisions or that all he does is salary cap.
https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/insights/san-francisco-49ers-paraag-marathe-how-launch-career-sports-management
What was the problem that you solved?

In 2001, Bill Walsh, the GM of the 49ers, hired Bain to work on a project with the NFL draft. He wanted us to evaluate draft picks — not the players, but the currency value of when you make trades. I put together an algorithm that gave us a better cut-up exchange rate and currency value, one that happened to be consistent with Bill's intuition already. Bill was known as a master of draft trades. And I didn't back into it. It just happened to actually verify his genius. The fact that we built something that matched that was what proved myself to him.



As more teams catch up to you on that analytics front, how do you stay ahead of the curve?

We're always looking for any advantage that you can find on the football field, whether it's sports performance and sleep studies or soft-tissue injury studies. Billy Beane put it best a couple years ago when he said that people catch up to what you were working on, but then that exposes something else. That gives you some other advantage. It's always evolving.


You're known for your contract negotiation and salary-cap management savvy. What has been your approach on that with the 49ers?

We wanted to build the team like a portfolio — manage the salary cap like any investment manager or hedge fund manager would manage their portfolio, which was to maximize return and minimize risk. It's all about making sure you capture value when you can, like wholesale versus retail. That's why the draft is so important to us. Draft is wholesale. Draft is where you have a prescribed price for a player. And if you get a really, really good player, you pay the same price as if you got a dud. You're still going to pay that player the same through the first four years of the contract. So that's really important. But it's also about making sure you distribute assets on the team in the right way. You don't want to put too much of your money, or too much risk, in one position.



His answers sound to me like he is actively involved in the final decisions concerning players and their cost/value. Also gives you an idea of his ego. That his system matched Walsh's "It just happened to actually verify his (Walsh's)genius.

Put that together with the 49ers description of his position:

PARAAG MARATHE
Chief Strategy Officer & Exec. VP Of Football Ops

On the team side, Marathe reports directly to 49ers CEO Jed York and has a significant role in major strategic decisions for the club as Chief Strategy Officer. He also continues in his long-respected role as the team's chief contract negotiator and salary cap architect, while overseeing the team's football analytics department.