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Interesting that Nolan didn't like analytics very much but Nolan was here when we drafted the best. Once he left, our drafts went to s**t again.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Interesting that Nolan didn't like analytics very much but Nolan was here when we drafted the best. Once he left, our drafts went to s**t again.

Nolan didn't draft s**t. It was all McCloughan
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Interesting that Nolan didn't like analytics very much but Nolan was here when we drafted the best. Once he left, our drafts went to s**t again.

Nolan didn't draft s**t. It was all McCloughan

Um, Nolan hired McCloughan.
Originally posted by Hitman49:

lol, best post
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Nolan didn't draft s**t. It was all McCloughan

Nolan had the final call on all personnel. McCloughan took over in 2008 and that draft was absolute garbage.
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by Hitman49:
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
I guarantee you we didn't re sign a lot of our players in the past 4 years because of Marathe's salary cap "architecture" aka be cheap and risk adverse, settle for a bad team

Mike Iupati is a good example...first round pick that made multiple pro bowls...what else do you want???extend the guy before he becomes a FA...Why invest a 1 rd pick on a guy to only have him play out his rookie contract if he's a starter and made the pro bowl...

I'm sorry guys but I can't get behind this one. Personnel moves came from Baalke and the "cheap" moniker kind of wasn't up to Marathe. When it comes to personnel, let's make sure we keep that squarely on the person who was responsible and was fired for it.

So you believe that a guy who has the title of President of Football Operations is only a contract negotiator and some other statistical things? I find it hard to believe that Jed has held everyone accountable but we know very little about the specifics of this guys role.

No I believe what I know I don't know and just trying the draw the line between speculation and what I'm getting from guys I trust (like Barrows).

It really doesn't matter, his title means he's accountable for leading one of the worst franchises. If Jed is hiding him because his role is as straight as research and contract, then he needs a different title and we can say how great of an analyst and negotiator he is.

Right now, he is the President and it is fair to say that he has done a terrible job at it.
Originally posted by NinerGM:
However I don't want to make him into too much of a boogie man.

If EVERY candidate demands autonomy, I don't think Jed will have a choice. We'll be able to tell by the type of person who actually comes here. Or will he have to watch a billion dollars burn before John and Denise figure it out.

Totally. I think one of the first signs after the hirings, will be the aggressive nature, or lack thereof, of the GM in FA.

Like Baalke last year in a do-or-die year, this new GM will want to put his stamp on this team. And Jed claims he'll be given the freedom to do just that...be aggressive with no limit but the cap itself.

And if he walks away with little to show for it, I'm willing to bet Paraag is controlling that aspect of the team.

And if he's controlling that aspect...well...
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by Joecool:
It really doesn't matter, his title means he's accountable for leading one of the worst franchises. If Jed is hiding him because his role is as straight as research and contract, then he needs a different title and we can say how great of an analyst and negotiator he is.

Right now, he is the President and it is fair to say that he has done a terrible job at it.

So right now he's not President. And quite frankly we're interpreting his title is what I'm saying. That doesn't make is so with Jed. This is what I think is at issue - we don't know what it is. If that ambiguity is what a potential GM or HC feel to be also, then that's an even bigger problem. I'm not defending him, just calling it like I see it and nothing more - no added "what I believe is .." That's it. Barrows says he's a meddler which is a problem and he and Jed are interviewing - which is also a problem. Now back-tracking and taking blame away from Baalke? That's a bridge a bit too far for me to cross. Baalke f**ked up big time with simply daily football decisions that screwed his team. Baalke stopped the Gase hire. Baalke has received criticism from a number of former players. Barrow's perspective is very interesting and I understand how it caused and is causing big problems, but I am not about to let Baalke off the hook for bad decisions when his title made him responsible completely for the 53.

Whoever decided not to get rid of Baalke along with Tomsula made a huge and obvious mistake. Football Operations has been a complete disaster top to bottom since 2014.
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by Joecool:
It really doesn't matter, his title means he's accountable for leading one of the worst franchises. If Jed is hiding him because his role is as straight as research and contract, then he needs a different title and we can say how great of an analyst and negotiator he is.

Right now, he is the President and it is fair to say that he has done a terrible job at it.

So right now he's not President. And quite frankly we're interpreting his title is what I'm saying. That doesn't make is so with Jed. This is what I think is at issue - we don't know what it is. If that ambiguity is what a potential GM or HC feel to be also, then that's an even bigger problem. I'm not defending him, just calling it like I see it and nothing more - no added "what I believe is .." That's it. Barrows says he's a meddler which is a problem and he and Jed are interviewing - which is also a problem. Now back-tracking and taking blame away from Baalke? That's a bridge a bit too far for me to cross. Baalke f**ked up big time with simply daily football decisions that screwed his team. Baalke stopped the Gase hire. Baalke has received criticism from a number of former players. Barrow's perspective is very interesting and I understand how it caused and is causing big problems, but I am not about to let Baalke off the hook for bad decisions when his title made him responsible completely for the 53.

The 49ers Link for the front office has Paraag as the only Execute Management listed under the category "Football Operations". Guido is under the "Business Operations" category and listed as President.

So, this puts Paraag at the highest rung in the Football Operations category. He is listed as Executive Vice President of Football Operations.

http://www.49ers.com/team/front-office.html

If Maraath reports to Guido, then they need to correct the categories and Hierarchy. The way it is listed makes it out to be that Paraag reports to nobody but Ownership.
[ Edited by Joecool on Jan 4, 2017 at 3:10 PM ]
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by Joecool:
It really doesn't matter, his title means he's accountable for leading one of the worst franchises. If Jed is hiding him because his role is as straight as research and contract, then he needs a different title and we can say how great of an analyst and negotiator he is.

Right now, he is the President and it is fair to say that he has done a terrible job at it.

So right now he's not President. And quite frankly we're interpreting his title is what I'm saying. That doesn't make is so with Jed. This is what I think is at issue - we don't know what it is. If that ambiguity is what a potential GM or HC feel to be also, then that's an even bigger problem. I'm not defending him, just calling it like I see it and nothing more - no added "what I believe is .." That's it. Barrows says he's a meddler which is a problem and he and Jed are interviewing - which is also a problem. Now back-tracking and taking blame away from Baalke? That's a bridge a bit too far for me to cross. Baalke f**ked up big time with simply daily football decisions that screwed his team. Baalke stopped the Gase hire. Baalke has received criticism from a number of former players. Barrow's perspective is very interesting and I understand how it caused and is causing big problems, but I am not about to let Baalke off the hook for bad decisions when his title made him responsible completely for the 53.

The 49ers Link for the front office has Paraag as the only Execute Management listed under the category "Football Operations". Guido is under the "Business Operations" category and listed as President.

So, this puts Paraag at the highest rung in the Football Operations category. He is listed as Executive Vice President of Football Operations.

http://www.49ers.com/team/front-office.html

If Maraath reports to Guido, then they need to correct the categories and Hierarchy. The way it is listed makes it out to be that Paraag reports to nobody but Ownership.

I have no reason to believe he reports to anyone but Jed.
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
I have no reason to believe he reports to anyone but Jed.

Which sucks because it makes him completely bullet proof.
Originally posted by zeppfan1:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
I have no reason to believe he reports to anyone but Jed.

Which sucks because it makes him completely bullet proof.

Hard to clean house when they leave one of the biggest problems in place. Jed flat out does not see it.
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Originally posted by Joecool:
The 49ers Link for the front office has Paraag as the only Execute Management listed under the category "Football Operations". Guido is under the "Business Operations" category and listed as President.

So, this puts Paraag at the highest rung in the Football Operations category. He is listed as Executive Vice President of Football Operations.

http://www.49ers.com/team/front-office.html

If Maraath reports to Guido, then they need to correct the categories and Hierarchy. The way it is listed makes it out to be that Paraag reports to nobody but Ownership.

That is because they removed Baalke and Kelly from the page when they were fired.
Originally posted by rdc1:
Originally posted by Joecool:
The 49ers Link for the front office has Paraag as the only Execute Management listed under the category "Football Operations". Guido is under the "Business Operations" category and listed as President.

So, this puts Paraag at the highest rung in the Football Operations category. He is listed as Executive Vice President of Football Operations.

http://www.49ers.com/team/front-office.html

If Maraath reports to Guido, then they need to correct the categories and Hierarchy. The way it is listed makes it out to be that Paraag reports to nobody but Ownership.

That is because they removed Baalke and Kelly from the page when they were fired.

Marathe had the same titles listed on that page prior to Baalke being canned. Marathe most certainly never reported to Baalke.
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Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Marathe had the same titles listed on that page prior to Baalke being canned. Marathe most certainly never reported to Baalke.

Never said that he didn't. Only that they removed the other two entries. Prior to Removal the listing order was

Baalke
Paraag
Kelly
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