Paraag Marathe Thread

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Gotta read the whole article . And this is all TK speculating, which he prefaced it with
I don't see that video anywhere. Even googled it. There's nothing with the agent saying anything about the niners not offering a certain amount of $

I can't find it either now. There was initial discussion that it was Kittle who Deebo was talking too but a fan here chimed it it was actually his agent he was talking too. There were quotes re: the $20M. Maybe it was fake news and got scrubbed here? Or maybe it was in a different thread???

Because Deebo deleted it NC but it does exist. I know Hoov needs courtroom-level evidence here.

tweets don't disappear. Someone will have it and regurgitate it to where all reporters will be saying the same thing... but it's not and reporters are saying it's not money its Deebo being hoime sick

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Kawa doesn't know anything on this

You really don't know what Kawa knows but never forget what Kittle said:

(from Barrows at The Athletic)

Kittle's and Warner's deals came down to the wire, with both players signing just before training camp. Kittle's agent told NFL.com that the 49ers' initial offer, on Feb. 14, 2020, was so disappointing that he started calling it "The Valentine's Day Massacre."

There's a history of this with Paraag going back to the TO days: 21 years of moneyball. It's changed slightly but not that much.

I know the 49ers don't leak anything. Deebo himself said only 3 people know the real situation

Money ball is getting rid of good players, we wouldn't have signed Jimmy, Williams, kittle and Warner to huge deals if we're playing money ball

Paraag and others in his position wouldn't have jobs if they didn't negotiate. Something that most people don't understand in this thread

Jimmy is a good player? Really?

And moneyball isn't about getting rid of good players, it's about having a set budget and not budging from that. Jimmy was a mid-tier unproven starter we over paid. If Cousins comes here instead of Jimmy and demands a fully guaranteed contract like he did with the Vikes, you think Paraag accepts that deal? Lol. Absolutely not.

Warner? Within budget. Kittle? Within budget. Williams not but was overruled by Kyle. Buckner was an incredibly good player.

Again but if us could be full of s**t. I'm simply saying look at what the PLAYERS and their agents are saying.

And unless you're an official in Santa Clara, you have no idea what the 49ers do and do not leak just like your claim that Kawa knows nothing (unless you know who his sources are).

Jimmy and others signed were the highest paid at their positions at the time. That is not money ball, money ball is not signing those guys or trading them for picks. We see this first hand with A's every year.

and yes I'm in Santa Clara and I know the 49ers don't leak. It's not hard to see the track record that they don't.

kawa is just giving his opinion which isn't fact.

So does TS and AS but the AS "link" was used as evidence to refute a possible lowball take that pissed Deebo off...enough to want out (meaning, SF ain't budging).

Respectfully, ain't no way this is true. If a team wants a deal to get done and the numbers are close, the player signs it. There isn't a player alive that doesn't want the security that comes with a long term contract. https://t.co/aadiL6EEcf

— Torrey Smith (@TorreySmithWR) April 20, 2022

again opinions on other opinions are not facts. it doesn't matter who it's from or what was said

only you are responsible in believing what you want. and if you don't want to wait for facts that is cool. but don't post them as fact and not receive some type of push back

I don't believe any reports coming out as they are all over the place. the only thing that are facts is Deebo wanting a trade and will not disclose why

Originally posted by NCommand:
I think you're missing the point. Deebo wants $25M but the 9ers aren't going above $20M (per TK, possibly up to $21). And that's before the GTD money is discussed. And that's an area Paraag always tries to win significantly.

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Kawa doesn't know anything on this

You really don't know what Kawa knows but never forget what Kittle said:

(from Barrows at The Athletic)

Kittle's and Warner's deals came down to the wire, with both players signing just before training camp. Kittle's agent told NFL.com that the 49ers' initial offer, on Feb. 14, 2020, was so disappointing that he started calling it "The Valentine's Day Massacre."

There's a history of this with Paraag going back to the TO days: 21 years of moneyball. It's changed slightly but not that much.

I know the 49ers don't leak anything. Deebo himself said only 3 people know the real situation

Money ball is getting rid of good players, we wouldn't have signed Jimmy, Williams, kittle and Warner to huge deals if we're playing money ball

Paraag and others in his position wouldn't have jobs if they didn't negotiate. Something that most people don't understand in this thread

Jimmy is a good player? Really?

And moneyball isn't about getting rid of good players, it's about having a set budget and not budging from that. Jimmy was a mid-tier unproven starter we over paid. If Cousins comes here instead of Jimmy and demands a fully guaranteed contract like he did with the Vikes, you think Paraag accepts that deal? Lol. Absolutely not.

Warner? Within budget. Kittle? Within budget. Williams not but was overruled by Kyle. Buckner was an incredibly good player.

Again but if us could be full of s**t. I'm simply saying look at what the PLAYERS and their agents are saying.

And unless you're an official in Santa Clara, you have no idea what the 49ers do and do not leak just like your claim that Kawa knows nothing (unless you know who his sources are).

Originally posted by NCommand:
Hey, talk to your boy Hoov. He's the one who won't form an opinion in an opinion forum without hard-core facts. LOL

We're all left speculating...but 21 years in this thread, not much is left to secret as to how this strategy goes. Ward, Kittle, etc. all confirmed it.

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Hey, talk to your boy Hoov. He's the one who won't form an opinion in an opinion forum without hard-core facts. LOL

We're all left speculating...but 21 years in this thread, not much is left to secret as to how this strategy goes. Ward, Kittle, etc. all confirmed it.

I just don't go pass off my opinions as facts or make things up. Big difference.

LOL

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by Izyniner:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Kawa doesn't know anything on this

You really don't know what Kawa knows but never forget what Kittle said:

(from Barrows at The Athletic)

Kittle's and Warner's deals came down to the wire, with both players signing just before training camp. Kittle's agent told NFL.com that the 49ers' initial offer, on Feb. 14, 2020, was so disappointing that he started calling it "The Valentine's Day Massacre."

There's a history of this with Paraag going back to the TO days: 21 years of moneyball. It's changed slightly but not that much.

I know the 49ers don't leak anything. Deebo himself said only 3 people know the real situation

Money ball is getting rid of good players, we wouldn't have signed Jimmy, Williams, kittle and Warner to huge deals if we're playing money ball

Paraag and others in his position wouldn't have jobs if they didn't negotiate. Something that most people don't understand in this thread

Jimmy is a good player? Really?

And moneyball isn't about getting rid of good players, it's about having a set budget and not budging from that. Jimmy was a mid-tier unproven starter we over paid. If Cousins comes here instead of Jimmy and demands a fully guaranteed contract like he did with the Vikes, you think Paraag accepts that deal? Lol. Absolutely not.

Warner? Within budget. Kittle? Within budget. Williams not but was overruled by Kyle. Buckner was an incredibly good player.

Again but if us could be full of s**t. I'm simply saying look at what the PLAYERS and their agents are saying.

And unless you're an official in Santa Clara, you have no idea what the 49ers do and do not leak just like your claim that Kawa knows nothing (unless you know who his sources are).

All those players you have within budget next to were all the highest paid players at there positions So that contradicts your point.

It's not about being the "highest paid player" - that's meaningless. Budget or "slot" is about a number, not a status. "Highest paid player" is usually only good for a few months if that. And again, "highest paid" in what? Total contract value or guaranteed $. Those are very, very different comparisons. Media likes to hype on things that don't matter to players (or execs).

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I'm not missing the point, I just disagree with it and doubt TK has had that from the team, he's probably pulling it out of his @ss for clicks.

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by Izyniner:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Kawa doesn't know anything on this

You really don't know what Kawa knows but never forget what Kittle said:

(from Barrows at The Athletic)

Kittle's and Warner's deals came down to the wire, with both players signing just before training camp. Kittle's agent told NFL.com that the 49ers' initial offer, on Feb. 14, 2020, was so disappointing that he started calling it "The Valentine's Day Massacre."

There's a history of this with Paraag going back to the TO days: 21 years of moneyball. It's changed slightly but not that much.

I know the 49ers don't leak anything. Deebo himself said only 3 people know the real situation

Money ball is getting rid of good players, we wouldn't have signed Jimmy, Williams, kittle and Warner to huge deals if we're playing money ball

Paraag and others in his position wouldn't have jobs if they didn't negotiate. Something that most people don't understand in this thread

Jimmy is a good player? Really?

And moneyball isn't about getting rid of good players, it's about having a set budget and not budging from that. Jimmy was a mid-tier unproven starter we over paid. If Cousins comes here instead of Jimmy and demands a fully guaranteed contract like he did with the Vikes, you think Paraag accepts that deal? Lol. Absolutely not.

Warner? Within budget. Kittle? Within budget. Williams not but was overruled by Kyle. Buckner was an incredibly good player.

Again but if us could be full of s**t. I'm simply saying look at what the PLAYERS and their agents are saying.

And unless you're an official in Santa Clara, you have no idea what the 49ers do and do not leak just like your claim that Kawa knows nothing (unless you know who his sources are).

All those players you have within budget next to were all the highest paid players at there positions So that contradicts your point.

It's not about being the "highest paid player" - that's meaningless. Budget or "slot" is about a number, not a status. "Highest paid player" is usually only good for a few months if that. And again, "highest paid" in what? Total contract value or guaranteed $. Those are very, very different comparisons. Media likes to hype on things that don't matter to players (or execs).

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by Izyniner:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by Izyniner:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Kawa doesn't know anything on this

You really don't know what Kawa knows but never forget what Kittle said:

(from Barrows at The Athletic)

Kittle's and Warner's deals came down to the wire, with both players signing just before training camp. Kittle's agent told NFL.com that the 49ers' initial offer, on Feb. 14, 2020, was so disappointing that he started calling it "The Valentine's Day Massacre."

There's a history of this with Paraag going back to the TO days: 21 years of moneyball. It's changed slightly but not that much.

I know the 49ers don't leak anything. Deebo himself said only 3 people know the real situation

Money ball is getting rid of good players, we wouldn't have signed Jimmy, Williams, kittle and Warner to huge deals if we're playing money ball

Paraag and others in his position wouldn't have jobs if they didn't negotiate. Something that most people don't understand in this thread

Jimmy is a good player? Really?

And moneyball isn't about getting rid of good players, it's about having a set budget and not budging from that. Jimmy was a mid-tier unproven starter we over paid. If Cousins comes here instead of Jimmy and demands a fully guaranteed contract like he did with the Vikes, you think Paraag accepts that deal? Lol. Absolutely not.

Warner? Within budget. Kittle? Within budget. Williams not but was overruled by Kyle. Buckner was an incredibly good player.

Again but if us could be full of s**t. I'm simply saying look at what the PLAYERS and their agents are saying.

And unless you're an official in Santa Clara, you have no idea what the 49ers do and do not leak just like your claim that Kawa knows nothing (unless you know who his sources are).

All those players you have within budget next to were all the highest paid players at there positions So that contradicts your point.

It's not about being the "highest paid player" - that's meaningless. Budget or "slot" is about a number, not a status. "Highest paid player" is usually only good for a few months if that. And again, "highest paid" in what? Total contract value or guaranteed $. Those are very, very different comparisons. Media likes to hype on things that don't matter to players (or execs).

It absolutely matters cause you are saying that they don't pay there stars. There is only one way to be the highest paid player and that's to be paid! Media has nothing to do with it.

I'm not saying that like AT ALL. I'm saying there's a slot (literally used that word). I'm saying there's only so much we're willing to pay and that has a range. When there's a player we believe is outside of that range we let them walk or trade. That's a fact. And NOPE there's is not only "one way" to be the "highest paid". Are we talking TCV, ACV, APY or guaranteed?

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I think you're missing the point. Deebo wants $25M but the 9ers aren't going above $20M (per TK, possibly up to $21). And that's before the GTD money is discussed. And that's an area Paraag always tries to win significantly.

I'm not missing the point, I just disagree with it and doubt TK has had that from the team, he's probably pulling it out of his @ss for clicks.

Originally posted by NinerGM:
I'm not saying that like AT ALL. I'm saying there's a slot (literally used that word). I'm saying there's only so much we're willing to pay and that has a range. When there's a player we believe is outside of that range we let them walk or trade. That's a fact. And NOPE there's is not only "one way" to be the "highest paid". Are we talking TCV, ACV, APY or guaranteed?

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by Izyniner:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Kawa doesn't know anything on this

You really don't know what Kawa knows but never forget what Kittle said:

(from Barrows at The Athletic)

Kittle's and Warner's deals came down to the wire, with both players signing just before training camp. Kittle's agent told NFL.com that the 49ers' initial offer, on Feb. 14, 2020, was so disappointing that he started calling it "The Valentine's Day Massacre."

There's a history of this with Paraag going back to the TO days: 21 years of moneyball. It's changed slightly but not that much.

I know the 49ers don't leak anything. Deebo himself said only 3 people know the real situation

Money ball is getting rid of good players, we wouldn't have signed Jimmy, Williams, kittle and Warner to huge deals if we're playing money ball

Paraag and others in his position wouldn't have jobs if they didn't negotiate. Something that most people don't understand in this thread

Jimmy is a good player? Really?

And moneyball isn't about getting rid of good players, it's about having a set budget and not budging from that. Jimmy was a mid-tier unproven starter we over paid. If Cousins comes here instead of Jimmy and demands a fully guaranteed contract like he did with the Vikes, you think Paraag accepts that deal? Lol. Absolutely not.

Warner? Within budget. Kittle? Within budget. Williams not but was overruled by Kyle. Buckner was an incredibly good player.

Again but if us could be full of s**t. I'm simply saying look at what the PLAYERS and their agents are saying.

And unless you're an official in Santa Clara, you have no idea what the 49ers do and do not leak just like your claim that Kawa knows nothing (unless you know who his sources are).

All those players you have within budget next to were all the highest paid players at there positions So that contradicts your point.

It's not about being the "highest paid player" - that's meaningless. Budget or "slot" is about a number, not a status. "Highest paid player" is usually only good for a few months if that. And again, "highest paid" in what? Total contract value or guaranteed $. Those are very, very different comparisons. Media likes to hype on things that don't matter to players (or execs).

I know .. too complex. Sorry bruh.