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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Kawa doesn't know anything on this

You really don't know what Kawa knows but never forget what Kittle said:

(from Barrows at The Athletic)

Kittle's and Warner's deals came down to the wire, with both players signing just before training camp. Kittle's agent told NFL.com that the 49ers' initial offer, on Feb. 14, 2020, was so disappointing that he started calling it "The Valentine's Day Massacre."

There's a history of this with Paraag going back to the TO days: 21 years of moneyball. It's changed slightly but not that much.
I know the 49ers don't leak anything. Deebo himself said only 3 people know the real situation

Money ball is getting rid of good players, we wouldn't have signed Jimmy, Williams, kittle and Warner to huge deals if we're playing money ball

Paraag and others in his position wouldn't have jobs if they didn't negotiate. Something that most people don't understand in this thread

Jimmy is a good player? Really?

And moneyball isn't about getting rid of good players, it's about having a set budget and not budging from that. Jimmy was a mid-tier unproven starter we over paid. If Cousins comes here instead of Jimmy and demands a fully guaranteed contract like he did with the Vikes, you think Paraag accepts that deal? Lol. Absolutely not.

Warner? Within budget. Kittle? Within budget. Williams not but was overruled by Kyle. Buckner was an incredibly good player.

Again but if us could be full of s**t. I'm simply saying look at what the PLAYERS and their agents are saying.

And unless you're an official in Santa Clara, you have no idea what the 49ers do and do not leak just like your claim that Kawa knows nothing (unless you know who his sources are).

All those players you have within budget next to were all the highest paid players at there positions So that contradicts your point.

It's not about being the "highest paid player" - that's meaningless. Budget or "slot" is about a number, not a status. "Highest paid player" is usually only good for a few months if that. And again, "highest paid" in what? Total contract value or guaranteed $. Those are very, very different comparisons. Media likes to hype on things that don't matter to players (or execs).

I know .. too complex. Sorry bruh.

I think you mean too contradictory

Goal posts are back peddling! Not just moving.
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Paraag has turned our fan base into low expectation Texan fans.

It's crazy how things have changed. They're DEFENDING Paraag.

Kinlaw goes from a better 3T prospect than Buckner to being OK with him at anything from NT, regimes change Paraag and player acquisitions do not, Pettis, injuries, pass protection, Tom Compton off seasons, first round busts, etc. These guys could justify anything. Even when the "evidence" is right in front of their faces year. You want evidence? Open your eyes. This team is only interested in being competitive. They aren't really competing for a Superbowl.
[ Edited by NCommand on Apr 21, 2022 at 9:22 AM ]
Originally posted by NinerGM:
It's crazy how things have changed. They're DEFENDING Paraag.

Nah, theres nothing to defend. He's a cog in the wheel.

As a Yankee fan I know all about "going all in". These same crap arguments are made by Yankee fans all the time about signing x or y. But I have seen the Yanks go to crap twice from overspending. The key to longevity is to balance development with paying stars. When the Yanks were at their best they were homegrown. Buying titles rarely works out.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
I'm not saying that like AT ALL. I'm saying there's a slot (literally used that word). I'm saying there's only so much we're willing to pay and that has a range. When there's a player we believe is outside of that range we let them walk or trade. That's a fact. And NOPE there's is not only "one way" to be the "highest paid". Are we talking TCV, ACV, APY or guaranteed?

Kinda like the Packers, Steelers and Patriots

Niners must have a pretty broad moneyball range
Originally posted by NinerGM:
We're trying to be like the Packers now? Didn't get that memo.

I would rather model consistently successful franchises than Washington or Chicago yes.

Command would probably welcome Ryan Pace because he "goes for it"
[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Apr 21, 2022 at 9:23 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Paraag has turned our fan base into low expectation Texan fans.

It's crazy how things have changed. They're DEFENDING Paraag.

Kinlaw goes from a better 3T prospect than Buckner to being OK with him at anything from NT, regimes change Paraag and player acquisitions do not, Pettis, injuries, pass protection, Tom Compton off seasons, first round busts, etc. These guys could justify anything. Even when the "evidence" is right in front of their faces year. You want evidence? Open your eyes. This team is only interested in being competitive. They aren't really competing for a Superbowl.

This is the same poster? Right! Did I win the internet?!!?!
Originally posted by NCommand:
Kinlaw goes from a better 3T prospect than Buckner to being OK with him at anything from NT, regimes change Paraag and player acquisitions do not, Pettis, injuries, pass protection, Tom Compton off seasons, first round busts, etc. These guys could justify anything. Even when the "evidence" is right in front of their faces year. You want evidence? Open your eyes. This team is only interested in being competitive. They aren't really competing for a Superbowl.

Clearly. Haven't competed for a SB in years.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Paraag has turned our fan base into low expectation Texan fans.

It's crazy how things have changed. They're DEFENDING Paraag.

Kinlaw goes from a better 3T prospect than Buckner to being OK with him at anything from NT, regimes change Paraag and player acquisitions do not, Pettis, injuries, pass protection, Tom Compton off seasons, first round busts, etc. These guys could justify anything. Even when the "evidence" is right in front of their faces year. You want evidence? Open your eyes. This team is only interested in being competitive. They aren't really competing for a Superbowl.

what an absolutely asinine take NC. Come on man
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Paraag has turned our fan base into low expectation Texan fans.

It's crazy how things have changed. They're DEFENDING Paraag.

Kinlaw goes from a better 3T prospect than Buckner to being OK with him at anything from NT, regimes change Paraag and player acquisitions do not, Pettis, injuries, pass protection, Tom Compton off seasons, first round busts, etc. These guys could justify anything. Even when the "evidence" is right in front of their faces year. You want evidence? Open your eyes. This team is only interested in being competitive. They aren't really competing for a Superbowl.

what an absolutely asinine take NC. Come on man

What moves have they made (let's start here) that make you feel this team is competing with the top teams in the NFC and AFC this year.

Charvarius Ward?
[ Edited by NCommand on Apr 21, 2022 at 9:27 AM ]
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Kinlaw goes from a better 3T prospect than Buckner to being OK with him at anything from NT, regimes change Paraag and player acquisitions do not, Pettis, injuries, pass protection, Tom Compton off seasons, first round busts, etc. These guys could justify anything. Even when the "evidence" is right in front of their faces year. You want evidence? Open your eyes. This team is only interested in being competitive. They aren't really competing for a Superbowl.

Clearly. Haven't competed for a SB in years.

We'll always be responsibly competing. Every year. But only in a bridesmaid sort of way. No way has this FO positioned itself to compete to be the bride. Prove me otherwise.

Lol people are wild. Paraag makes a great contract and we Paraag hasn't signed one dude and we're
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Paraag has turned our fan base into low expectation Texan fans.

It's crazy how things have changed. They're DEFENDING Paraag.

Kinlaw goes from a better 3T prospect than Buckner to being OK with him at anything from NT, regimes change Paraag and player acquisitions do not, Pettis, injuries, pass protection, Tom Compton off seasons, first round busts, etc. These guys could justify anything. Even when the "evidence" is right in front of their faces year. You want evidence? Open your eyes. This team is only interested in being competitive. They aren't really competing for a Superbowl.

what an absolutely asinine take NC. Come on man

What moves have they made (let's start here) that make you feel this team is competing with the top teams in the NFC and AFC this year.

Charvarius Ward?
What moves have we made? have we been not to two NFCCG and a SB ? lol
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Lol people are wild. Paraag makes a great contract and we Paraag hasn't signed one dude and we're
seriously.. we got some diva fans who like to be wrong
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Apr 21, 2022 at 9:32 AM ]
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by NCommand:
What moves have they made (let's start here) that make you feel this team us competing with the top teams in the NFC and AFC this year.

Charvarius Ward?

Dude you won't convince this trio. Everything is fine.
We're like the Patriots now so it's all cool.
Paraag has NO HISTORY of low-balling anyone.


LOL. Hey man, the best part of being Faithful sometimes is there's an underline belief you don't need to think independently or use wisdom...just trust...have faith. Ironically, it's supposed to be just the opposite...the goal is wisdom.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
What moves have we made? have we been not to two NFCCG and a SB ? lol

#Bridesmaid
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