Originally posted by boast:
it appears so...
No strength and conditioning coaches. That explains why the OL is getting manhandled.
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Originally posted by boast:
it appears so...
Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by TheWooLick:Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by TheWooLick:Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by theduke85:Thanks, this article was very intriguing.Originally posted by TheWooLick:http://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/WHO-IS-PARAAG-MARATHE-Numbers-added-up-to-2703495.php
I recall hearing Walsh on KNBR about this time talk about how the Yorks had been paying him to count paperclips and that nobody in the FO was interested in his input at all.
Walsh didn't say that at all. I hate when people make things up. It's soooo frustrating. There is no Praage conspiracy. I still see WooLick is spreading baseless claims in NT.
If you didn't read it gents, it didn't happen.
What do you mean by that? I heard it with my own ears. Do you think Lynch made up the quote in the article and made up the trade veto story?
Dude we've done this before and the claims you make about Praag aren't remotely true and the innuendo about Walsh is even worse. You mix what you think yo heard which isn't written anywhere. And yes Lynch is SPECULATING which he says himself from sources. Stop it bro.
I think I have posted nothing but the truth about his role in the organization. I believe Lynch, Barbieri and what I have read and heard.
Do you think the culture and direction of the team are good under Marathe?
I think you imply with a lot of innuendo and supposition and the sources and names you put forward as hard evidence would also say their opinion writers like Ratto, Killion and Kawakami who write very creatively but at the end of the day even they can't say on the record their suppositions are true. I think that's misleading for fans who take everything they say as gospel.
I do know one thing - the organization has gone to the Super Bowl, been in the playoffs 4 straight years and has done wonders and stayed competitive.
When are you asking me this question? When the team is down? Where was this question in 2011? 2012? Where were all the Praag is the detrimental hidden power bringing down the organization threads then? Wasn't still doing that s**t then? Wasn't he still the "moneyball" guy? Or did that disappear? Oh I know Harabaugh ran everything and that's what it was .....
Many here want to heap criticism for bad times and not give any praise for what was accomplished. What I think really doesn't matter in the end because I don't take a daily referendum on the team's/organizations performance. Do I think mistakes were made - sure and that's what humans do, but I refuse to buy into the rumors and innuendo that's cool right now.
People need to get real.
The problems didn't start until Jim's contract talks begun. That's Paraage's territory. I don't believe everything about Paraage, but I don't close my eyes to it either. Jed wants this team to be like his uncle's team. Paraage tried to overtake Bill Walsh. One of these two are playing a different game.
I remember, during the Nolan era, reporters were wondering and repeatedly asking what is Paraage doing in the booth. His name seems to put him in some odd situations. That's when eyes should start opening. Everything was all fine and dandy until Jim Harbaugh's contract began to reach its end. There's only one guy who does contracts.
I don't know, there seems to be a common theme here.
Praag tried to overtake Walsh? How was that possible when Donahue was the one who brought Praag into the organization and then both Praag and Walsh welcomed his approach?
The problems started when the team lost the super bowl on a delay of game. THATS when the problems started.
Originally posted by Bluesbro:
No strength and conditioning coaches. That explains why the OL is getting manhandled.
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by Bluesbro:
No strength and conditioning coaches. That explains why the OL is getting manhandled.
no. they just changed the name. someone needs to enter it at Wikipedia.
http://www.49ers.com/team/coaches/Mark-Uyeyama/49e6b54b-debb-47bb-94ff-b25faed024d5
Originally posted by btthepunk:People be putting Pu$$y on a pedestal
We can't post an opinion or rumor stated as a fact without a source here but we can take this chicks twitter as gospel?
Originally posted by JamesGatz83:Originally posted by boast:Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Originally posted by NinerGM:Phoenix - Yu was brought in only for the stadium not to do contracts. His job was to get a stadium funded and built - absolutely nothing with football. Once the stadium was done, he stepped down and remained a part owner. Yu was brought in to woo Silicon Valley investors.
He built thema stadium and they basically told him to scram. I dont think its at all a coincidence that the Harbaugh rumors began shortly after he left. Yu was a known supporter of Harbaugh and unlike York or Marathe, a guy who was well professionally accomplished and had an idea of what it took to sustain success.
where did you get this info from?
everything i read around that time was that Yu did what he was brought into to do. Yu had nothing to do with actual football operations.
Yu is still a 5% owner, no?
Originally posted by NinerGM:So you just need to have success anywhere to be successful in football? Let's be clear Yu was not a football guy and had no prior success and because he has had a success with Google, it's success and therefore translates. And because he was supposedly asked to leave, everything went to pot in 2014 because of it.
Phoenix the article you posted doesn't have an author bud. Who posted that article?
Originally posted by Joecool:With the team tanking, Paraage will get his chance to put his formula to the test in the 2016 draft.
Originally posted by Pollyanna:That truly sucks because he is the only accomplished person in that group. At 5% he has little influence over these dumb decisions that are being made. You can't have the technical staff people making business decisions. You need businesmen/women with people skills and leadership to make those. Math wizards and bean counters are a dime a dozen and that's all that Marathe and Baalke are.
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by Joecool:
With the team tanking, Paraage will get his chance to put his formula to the test in the 2016 draft.
He has been putting it to use since the Erickson days.
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by Pollyanna:
That truly sucks because he is the only accomplished person in that group. At 5% he has little influence over these dumb decisions that are being made. You can't have the technical staff people making business decisions. You need businesmen/women with people skills and leadership to make those. Math wizards and bean counters are a dime a dozen and that's all that Marathe and Baalke are.
So we no longer want a football guy, we want a business brain. Right.
Originally posted by NinerGM:No. Absolutely not. I'm not deflecting criticism of the FO. What I'm doing is calling out the rumors/lies/innuendo vs what is true. There are legit criticisms of the the FO and I've made more than my share. What frustrates me is when conjecture becomes fact. When rumors of "connecting the dots" become "true". And of course none of these dots were being connected when the team was good. I challenge ANYONE to find a article or a rumor monger who was claiming Praag was bad for the team in 2012 or 2013. Rather, there's a whole NT thread about how good of an exec he has been.
Focus your energy on where it should go like oh I don't know, how the 49ers are going replace their QB? Rather than making a claim that Praag is the real reason the 49ers suck.