Originally posted by NinerGM:
Okay guys you win. Paraag is satan and he's the leak (confirmed) and the 49ers are forever and always have been doomed since he joined the organization. The only way to fix it all is to just blow it all up or the team gets sold or some combo thereof. You guys are right.
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Paraag Marathe Thread
Nov 3, 2015 at 3:27 PM
- Afrikan
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Nov 3, 2015 at 3:28 PM
- pd24
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Okay guys you win. Paraag is satan and he's the leak (confirmed) and the 49ers are forever and always have been doomed since he joined the organization. The only way to fix it all is to just blow it all up or the team gets sold or some combo thereof. You guys are right.
Thanks, but nobody was seeking your approval.
Nov 3, 2015 at 3:29 PM
- btthepunk
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Originally posted by pd24:Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by Afrikan:here is long time 49ers reporter Ray Ratto about Paarag and Jed.
I mean if this "chick" wasn't taken serious, I doubt Ray would be responding/retweeting her accusations.....doubt he'd give her any platform.
Ray Ratto Verified account @RattoCSN
@SoCaliSteph @BASportsGuy But he's not leaking anything without permission, or even direction.
So Cali Steph @SoCaliSteph 18h18 hours ago
@RattoCSN @BASportsGuy correct
Ray Ratto? - Really?
Ratto is well connected. You don't have to believe it, but a lot of us here do.
I don't read that tweet as him saying she's right, more of of he's the rat then he's not doing it without...
If Ratto, Kawakami, Killion, etc knew who the rat was don't you think everyone would by now?
Nov 3, 2015 at 3:30 PM
- Hoovtrain
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Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by pd24:Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by TheWooLick:Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by TheWooLick:Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by TheWooLick:Originally posted by NinerGM:No. Absolutely not. I'm not deflecting criticism of the FO. What I'm doing is calling out the rumors/lies/innuendo vs what is true. There are legit criticisms of the the FO and I've made more than my share. What frustrates me is when conjecture becomes fact. When rumors of "connecting the dots" become "true". And of course none of these dots were being connected when the team was good. I challenge ANYONE to find a article or a rumor monger who was claiming Praag was bad for the team in 2012 or 2013. Rather, there's a whole NT thread about how good of an exec he has been.
Focus your energy on where it should go like oh I don't know, how the 49ers are going replace their QB? Rather than making a claim that Praag is the real reason the 49ers suck.
What led us to where we are? The dismissal of Harbaugh with no plan to replace him was a big part of it.
His name is Paraag, not Praag.
And according to you, it's because Paraag caused this... not Baalke, not Jed, it was Paraag.
Jed is the son og the owners, he is going to be CEO forever, Paraag is Baalke's boss and the top person on the football side, I would lay blame on all three of them and hope that changes are made.
Paraag is not Baalke's boss and Jed said so directly.
He is the prwsident of the 49ers, of course he is the GM's boss. Who do you think Baalkr reports to? What did Jed say exactly?
Baalke reports to Jed directly and not through Paraag. Do you know what the duties of the 49er president are? Are you sure you understand the power structure? What's interesting is that you claim to read all these rumors and clearly the rumors identify the power players on the football side as Jed and Baalke, not Paraag - and I can use many of the sources you're relying on regarding the leak ....
You don't know that, nobody here does. It's an opinion of yours. Most Organizations have the GM report to the President.
Marathe also holds a significant leadership position on the football side. He is the club's chief contract negotiator and salary cap architect, and also runs the team's football analytics efforts. He is responsible for the 49ers compliance with the NFL's collective bargaining agreement and works closely with general manager Trent Baalke on all aspects of the club's football operations.
I do know this because Jed said it. Directly. During Harbaugh's search, during Baalke's introduction as GM and during at Harbaugh's intro PC.
What was Paraags job title again back in 2011 when all that was occurring?
Nov 3, 2015 at 3:31 PM
- pd24
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
here is long time 49ers reporter Ray Ratto about Paarag and Jed.
I mean if this "chick" wasn't taken serious, I doubt Ray would be responding/retweeting her accusations.....doubt he'd give her any platform.
Ray Ratto Verified account @RattoCSN
@SoCaliSteph @BASportsGuy But he's not leaking anything without permission, or even direction.
So Cali Steph @SoCaliSteph 18h18 hours ago
@RattoCSN @BASportsGuy correct
Ray Ratto? - Really?
Who is credible in your opinion?
It really doesn't matter. He doesn't know anything more than us. I believe the people that do this for a living. They have some connections. Ratto has been around Bay Area sports to have solid connections.
Maiocco, Barrows, and others are THE BEST at it and do it for a living and are a LOT closer to the team.
No they aren't. Local reporters don't break any of the 49ers stuff. They couldn't even get a scoop on a simple Vernon trade for a 6th rounder. But you can think that if you want, I have no problem with that.
Nov 3, 2015 at 3:32 PM
- 49erfeeeever808
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
here is long time 49ers reporter Ray Ratto about Paarag and Jed.
I mean if this "chick" wasn't taken serious, I doubt Ray would be responding/retweeting her accusations.....doubt he'd give her any platform.
Ray Ratto Verified account @RattoCSN
@SoCaliSteph @BASportsGuy But he's not leaking anything without permission, or even direction.
So Cali Steph @SoCaliSteph 18h18 hours ago
@RattoCSN @BASportsGuy correct
Ray Ratto? - Really?
Who is credible in your opinion?
It really doesn't matter. He doesn't know anything more than us. I believe the people that do this for a living. They have some connections. Ratto has been around Bay Area sports to have solid connections.
Maiocco, Barrows, and others are THE BEST at it and do it for a living and are a LOT closer to the team.
lol. yeah ray ratto is the bay area's skip bayless.
Nov 3, 2015 at 3:33 PM
- pd24
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Okay guys you win. Paraag is satan and he's the leak (confirmed) and the 49ers are forever and always have been doomed since he joined the organization. The only way to fix it all is to just blow it all up or the team gets sold or some combo thereof. You guys are right.
Thanks, but nobody was seeking your approval.
You sure were arguing like it. Next time if you don't want my "approval" you don't have to respond.
If you keep passing your opinions off as facts and like you are connected more than media people in the bay, I will respond.
Nov 3, 2015 at 3:34 PM
- Hoovtrain
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Originally posted by NinerGM:Okay guys you win. Paraag is satan and he's the leak (confirmed) and the 49ers are forever and always have been doomed since he joined the organization. The only way to fix it all is to just blow it all up or the team gets sold or some combo thereof. You guys are right.
Lol. whsts with all of the dramatics and taking things to the absolute extreme? This seems very personal to you.
[ Edited by Hoovtrain on Nov 3, 2015 at 3:36 PM ]
Nov 3, 2015 at 3:34 PM
- pd24
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
here is long time 49ers reporter Ray Ratto about Paarag and Jed.
I mean if this "chick" wasn't taken serious, I doubt Ray would be responding/retweeting her accusations.....doubt he'd give her any platform.
Ray Ratto Verified account @RattoCSN
@SoCaliSteph @BASportsGuy But he's not leaking anything without permission, or even direction.
So Cali Steph @SoCaliSteph 18h18 hours ago
@RattoCSN @BASportsGuy correct
Ray Ratto? - Really?
Who is credible in your opinion?
It really doesn't matter. He doesn't know anything more than us. I believe the people that do this for a living. They have some connections. Ratto has been around Bay Area sports to have solid connections.
Maiocco, Barrows, and others are THE BEST at it and do it for a living and are a LOT closer to the team.
No they aren't. Local reporters don't break any of the 49ers stuff. They couldn't even get a scoop on a simple Vernon trade for a 6th rounder. But you can think that if you want, I have no problem with that.
HAHAAHAH Local reporters don't break 49er news.
Yup.. Lol. Look it up
Nov 3, 2015 at 3:35 PM
- pd24
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Okay guys you win. Paraag is satan and he's the leak (confirmed) and the 49ers are forever and always have been doomed since he joined the organization. The only way to fix it all is to just blow it all up or the team gets sold or some combo thereof. You guys are right.
Thanks, but nobody was seeking your approval.
You sure were arguing like it. Next time if you don't want my "approval" you don't have to respond.
If you keep passing your opinions off as facts and like you are connected more than media people in the bay, I will respond.
No I'm challenging opinions that don't have facts. And challenging posters like you who take what media people in bay say is their opinion and you parrot as a fact.
I didn't parrot anything. Are you trolling? I just said I agree with the articles.
Nov 3, 2015 at 3:37 PM
- pd24
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Okay guys you win. Paraag is satan and he's the leak (confirmed) and the 49ers are forever and always have been doomed since he joined the organization. The only way to fix it all is to just blow it all up or the team gets sold or some combo thereof. You guys are right.
Thanks, but nobody was seeking your approval.
You sure were arguing like it. Next time if you don't want my "approval" you don't have to respond.
If you keep passing your opinions off as facts and like you are connected more than media people in the bay, I will respond.
No I'm challenging opinions that don't have facts. And challenging posters like you who take what media people in bay say is their opinion and you parrot as a fact.
I didn't parrot anything. Are you trolling? I just said I agree with the articles.
No I'm not trolling because you don't need my approval right? I should ask if you are actually.
What? Im not here giving a lecture about what to believe with no supporting evidence. That would be you.
Nov 3, 2015 at 3:37 PM
- leakyfausett
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I got some facts for all of you. You are the annoying guys that everyone wants to kick the s**t out of at every party.
Nov 3, 2015 at 3:40 PM
- jbeale49
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It's all coming out when we go on Hard Knocks. Only certain teams are eligible and with the propensity for off the field fireworks, I gotta think we're a target.
At this point, I'd actually be fine with it
At this point, I'd actually be fine with it
Nov 3, 2015 at 3:47 PM
- 16to87
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Paraag : Head leaker and slurper all rolled into one. The man can multi task
Nov 3, 2015 at 3:47 PM
- midrdan
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
So how did Paraag go from doing cap and contracts to screwing with Harbaugh and moneyballing the 49ers in one season? This logic has to be explained.
It hasn't been one season. You aren't following the bouncing ball. Marathe joined the 49ers in 2001 from Bain, which was hired to perform analytics on draft value by Bill Walsh. Marathe came up with a system that apparently impressed 49ers brass and he was hired as a result. He has, since 2001, steadily become more influential within the organization. Both he and the organization acknowledge that he is in charge of the salary cap and contract negotiations, and has been for some time. He apparently prefers metrics when it comes to drafting players - he has said that those metrics apply to how the 49ers evaluate and draft players.
In 2005, when Marathe was 28, he was appointed the assistant to the General Manager. John York publicly affirmed that he relied on Marathe in identifying and hiring Coach Nolan. His ascension within the organization closely paralleled Jed York's (then 23 years old) involvement with the team. Marathe was given authority at the time to hire non-scouts to essentially "scout" players using his statistical model. http://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/WHO-IS-PARAAG-MARATHE-Numbers-added-up-to-2703495.php.
And in 2008 - the following article confirmed at least one source within the 49ers organization had reported that Marathe's influence extended to player selection and play calling: http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/?p=17011
"Mike Holmgren was under consideration for the coaching job of the San Francisco 49ers in 2004, but a mathematical calculation by the owners' son and the team's number-cruncher killed any hopes of hiring Holmgren. The 49ers selected Mike Nolan instead—based on another set of mathematical calculations and data by the two young men. Using a statistical analysis devised by 49ers number-cruncher Paraag Marathe and business school graduate Jed York, son of owners John and Denise DeBartolo York, the pair determined that no head coach of a Super Bowl winning team had ever left that team and won a Super Bowl as the head coach of another National Football League franchise.
Jed York and Paraag Marathe's numbers-crunching analysis came after the team fired then Coach Dennis Erickson after his losing 2004 football season. Both Marathe and York the Younger presented their evidence that no Super Bowl winning coach had ever joined another team as head coach and won another Super Bowl with the new organization.
"Jed and Paraag devised an entire series of spread sheets that provided statistical outcomes of various coaching choices," according to a 49ers insider. "They had reams of papers to prove that Holmgren was a bad choice and that Nolan was a good choice based upon his record in Baltimore and history at the Giants, Jets and Redskins. This year Paraag and Jed continue to use a statistical analysis combined with game films to make choices about what plays to run and what players to draft or acquire."