Paraag Marathe Thread

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by boast:

it's funny that Paraag was one of the first to develop these "equations" and are basically the same thing most everyone posts to show how players are performing these days....PFF numbers.

PFF = good
Paraag = bad

What PFF numbers have ever said that Mike Nolan is a better coaching candidate than Mike Holmgren?

Supposedly, there was mounds of data presented by him favoring Nolan over Holmgren in 2004-05. He really needs to work on his coaching hiring equations, because starting with Nolan we are 1 for 4 in that department.

Paraag: "According to these numbers, winning a super bowl is worse than having no experience as a HC at all. Welp, better give this Nolan character GM powers too."

I love that the year right after this happened Holmgren got a second team to the super bowl and lost one of the worst officiated games in SB history. But of course that not why he lost, it was because he led another team to a title That's just ridiculous on every level, I question if there is even a big enough statistical sample size to make that claim. I'm guessing no.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by boast:

it's funny that Paraag was one of the first to develop these "equations" and are basically the same thing most everyone posts to show how players are performing these days....PFF numbers.

PFF = good
Paraag = bad

What PFF numbers have ever said that Mike Nolan is a better coaching candidate than Mike Holmgren?

Supposedly, there was mounds of data presented by him favoring Nolan over Holmgren in 2004-05. He really needs to work on his coaching hiring equations, because starting with Nolan we are 1 for 4 in that department.

Paraag: "According to these numbers, winning a super bowl is worse than having no experience as a HC at all. Welp, better give this Nolan character GM powers too."

Harbaugh inherited veteran pro-bowlers from Nolan.

Nolan and Co did get rid of the trash and bring in solid players, he just whiffed on QB

Are you changing the goal posts? He chose Mike Nolan over Mike Holmgren.

Originally posted by blunt_probe:
Paraag: "According to these numbers, winning a super bowl is worse than having no experience as a HC at all. Welp, better give this Nolan character GM powers too."

People keep denying it all they want but this team has been known for crap management for the last decade+. The only constants over that time have been John York, Jed York and Paraag Marathe.


They lucked into a top tier head coach for a few years because his family wanted to stay in the area, but even that got screwed up when they replaced him with a guy who has no business being an NFL head coach and now all the signs point to this franchise being completely adrift once more like they were from 2003 to 2011.

Its also difficult to say what about this franchise would appeal to a top tier GM candidate like a Chris Ballard from Kansas City or some of the top coaching candidates. With all the drama and the non-stop leaks, with there being absolutely no credible leaders at the top of the organization, it makes it a lot easier to scratch the 49ers off your list.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:
Paraag: "According to these numbers, winning a super bowl is worse than having no experience as a HC at all. Welp, better give this Nolan character GM powers too."

People keep denying it all they want but this team has been known for crap management for the last decade+. The only constants over that time have been John York, Jed York and Paraag Marathe.


They lucked into a top tier head coach for a few years because his family wanted to stay in the area, but even that got screwed up when they replaced him with a guy who has no business being an NFL head coach and now all the signs point to this franchise being completely adrift once more like they were from 2003 to 2011.

They didn't luck into it. That was the sole reason for hiring Baalke. He has a little bit of a relationship with Harbaugh. When Baalke was hired, most football folks were only buying the hire as a means to get Harbaugh.

Technically, Baalke got Jim here.

But it seemed as if Jim saw through Paraage and wasn't letting him near any football related decisions.

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by boast:
it's funny that Paraag was one of the first to develop these "equations" and are basically the same thing most everyone posts to show how players are performing these days....PFF numbers.

PFF = good
Paraag = bad

What PFF numbers have ever said that Mike Nolan is a better coaching candidate than Mike Holmgren?

Supposedly, there was mounds of data presented by him favoring Nolan over Holmgren in 2004-05. He really needs to work on his coaching hiring equations, because starting with Nolan we are 1 for 4 in that department.

Paraag: "According to these numbers, winning a super bowl is worse than having no experience as a HC at all. Welp, better give this Nolan character GM powers too."

Harbaugh inherited veteran pro-bowlers from Nolan.

Nolan and Co did get rid of the trash and bring in solid players, he just whiffed on QB

Are you changing the goal posts? He chose Mike Nolan over Mike Holmgren.

At the Time there was no outrage over the move...everyone here was on board with the Nolan Era....Holmgren was and is washed up

youre trying spinning whatever to fuel your hate

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by boast:

it's funny that Paraag was one of the first to develop these "equations" and are basically the same thing most everyone posts to show how players are performing these days....PFF numbers.

PFF = good
Paraag = bad

What PFF numbers have ever said that Mike Nolan is a better coaching candidate than Mike Holmgren?

Supposedly, there was mounds of data presented by him favoring Nolan over Holmgren in 2004-05. He really needs to work on his coaching hiring equations, because starting with Nolan we are 1 for 4 in that department.

Paraag: "According to these numbers, winning a super bowl is worse than having no experience as a HC at all. Welp, better give this Nolan character GM powers too."

Harbaugh inherited veteran pro-bowlers from Nolan.

Nolan and Co did get rid of the trash and bring in solid players, he just whiffed on QB

Are you changing the goal posts? He chose Mike Nolan over Mike Holmgren.

At the Time there was no outrage over the move...everyone here was on board with the Nolan Era....Holmgren was and is washed up

youre trying spinning whatever to fuel your hate

In 2005, Mike Holmgren lead a team to the SB. This was the year he supposedly was not better than Mike Nolan. Mike Holmgren was not washed up in 2005.

With the exception of Harbs, none of our HC hires get another shot at a HC gig.....I wonder why that is?

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by boast:
it's funny that Paraag was one of the first to develop these "equations" and are basically the same thing most everyone posts to show how players are performing these days....PFF numbers.

PFF = good
Paraag = bad

What PFF numbers have ever said that Mike Nolan is a better coaching candidate than Mike Holmgren?

Supposedly, there was mounds of data presented by him favoring Nolan over Holmgren in 2004-05. He really needs to work on his coaching hiring equations, because starting with Nolan we are 1 for 4 in that department.

Paraag: "According to these numbers, winning a super bowl is worse than having no experience as a HC at all. Welp, better give this Nolan character GM powers too."

Unless Peyton wins the SB this year, a SB winning QB has never won it again with a 2nd team.

Now, what were the alternatives here? I doubt the alternative is some scrub QB.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by boast:
it's funny that Paraag was one of the first to develop these "equations" and are basically the same thing most everyone posts to show how players are performing these days....PFF numbers.

PFF = good
Paraag = bad

What PFF numbers have ever said that Mike Nolan is a better coaching candidate than Mike Holmgren?

Supposedly, there was mounds of data presented by him favoring Nolan over Holmgren in 2004-05. He really needs to work on his coaching hiring equations, because starting with Nolan we are 1 for 4 in that department.

Paraag: "According to these numbers, winning a super bowl is worse than having no experience as a HC at all. Welp, better give this Nolan character GM powers too."

Harbaugh inherited veteran pro-bowlers from Nolan.

Nolan and Co did get rid of the trash and bring in solid players, he just whiffed on QB

Are you changing the goal posts? He chose Mike Nolan over Mike Holmgren.

At the Time there was no outrage over the move...everyone here was on board with the Nolan Era....Holmgren was and is washed up

youre trying spinning whatever to fuel your hate

That's why we are not qualified to be at that position and neither is Paraage...or Jed. Was a huge mistake. Holmgren would have brought some good NFL minds with him.
I think there was a sense of insecurity for hiring Holmgren because he would have probably wanted to move to GM sooner or later.

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by boast:
it's funny that Paraag was one of the first to develop these "equations" and are basically the same thing most everyone posts to show how players are performing these days....PFF numbers.

PFF = good
Paraag = bad

What PFF numbers have ever said that Mike Nolan is a better coaching candidate than Mike Holmgren?

Supposedly, there was mounds of data presented by him favoring Nolan over Holmgren in 2004-05. He really needs to work on his coaching hiring equations, because starting with Nolan we are 1 for 4 in that department.

Paraag: "According to these numbers, winning a super bowl is worse than having no experience as a HC at all. Welp, better give this Nolan character GM powers too."

Harbaugh inherited veteran pro-bowlers from Nolan.

Nolan and Co did get rid of the trash and bring in solid players, he just whiffed on QB

Are you changing the goal posts? He chose Mike Nolan over Mike Holmgren.

At the Time there was no outrage over the move...everyone here was on board with the Nolan Era....Holmgren was and is washed up

youre trying spinning whatever to fuel your hate

In 2005, Mike Holmgren lead a team to the SB. This was the year he supposedly was not better than Mike Nolan. Mike Holmgren was not washed up in 2005.

ok washed up was harsh..but they rode Alexander shoulders all those years. but he was stripped of his GM duties in 02, but he was under a long contract in those years he supposedly wanted to coach us when he was in Seattle

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by boast:

it's funny that Paraag was one of the first to develop these "equations" and are basically the same thing most everyone posts to show how players are performing these days....PFF numbers.

PFF = good
Paraag = bad

What PFF numbers have ever said that Mike Nolan is a better coaching candidate than Mike Holmgren?

Supposedly, there was mounds of data presented by him favoring Nolan over Holmgren in 2004-05. He really needs to work on his coaching hiring equations, because starting with Nolan we are 1 for 4 in that department.

Paraag: "According to these numbers, winning a super bowl is worse than having no experience as a HC at all. Welp, better give this Nolan character GM powers too."

Harbaugh inherited veteran pro-bowlers from Nolan.

Nolan and Co did get rid of the trash and bring in solid players, he just whiffed on QB

Are you changing the goal posts? He chose Mike Nolan over Mike Holmgren.

At the Time there was no outrage over the move...everyone here was on board with the Nolan Era....Holmgren was and is washed up

youre trying spinning whatever to fuel your hate

Are you kidding me? This was 2004, not 2011. Holmgren was NOTwashed up as evidenced by the 2005 super bowl trip. There was questioning at the Nolan hire, namely the part about giving a rookie HC GM powers. The only reason it wasn't louder was because everyone was willing to take anything over Erickson. So again, stop trying to defend this move in any way, shape, or form, because not one sane person is going to call it the right choice.

Originally posted by Joecool:

That's why we are not qualified to be at that position and neither is Paraage...or Jed. Was a huge mistake. Holmgren would have brought some good NFL minds with him.
I think there was a sense of insecurity for hiring Holmgren because he would have probably wanted to move to GM sooner or later.

Holmgren in 2005 woulda been an absolute Home run hire. Like you said, he would have brought legitimate football guys with him. Also, I wonder what QB he would have wanted at the top of the 2005 draft, I got a gut feeling it might have been a local kid that ran a WCO in college.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Joecool:
All I know that a lot of people with connections are saying the 49ers management is real BAD. Honestly, there's really only 2 guys who make the decisions in terms of operations and they are Jed and Paraage.

Baalke just seems like the guy who is trying to get the right players.

anyone can say anything cause there is no proof

Those same people who are saying this stuff have been correct up to this point. Look at the results of the team. You can blame on the head coach but then that doesn't explain why the previous coach was let go.

It's obvious there terrible decisions being made in the 49ers front office. By title, there's only two guys who have the power to make those. Don't tell me Baalke because he was the one who had a relationship with Harbaugh while he was at Stanford.

So the Baalke and harbaugh at odds was correct ?..because that was the first Rumor, or do people just chose what they want to hear

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by Joecool:
That's why we are not qualified to be at that position and neither is Paraage...or Jed. Was a huge mistake. Holmgren would have brought some good NFL minds with him.
I think there was a sense of insecurity for hiring Holmgren because he would have probably wanted to move to GM sooner or later.

Holmgren in 2005 woulda been an absolute Home run hire. Like you said, he would have brought legitimate football guys with him. Also, I wonder what QB he would have wanted at the top of the 2005 draft, I got a gut feeling it might have been a local kid that ran a WCO in college.

he was under contract with Seattle

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Joecool:
All I know that a lot of people with connections are saying the 49ers management is real BAD. Honestly, there's really only 2 guys who make the decisions in terms of operations and they are Jed and Paraage.

Baalke just seems like the guy who is trying to get the right players.

anyone can say anything cause there is no proof

Those same people who are saying this stuff have been correct up to this point. Look at the results of the team. You can blame on the head coach but then that doesn't explain why the previous coach was let go.

It's obvious there terrible decisions being made in the 49ers front office. By title, there's only two guys who have the power to make those. Don't tell me Baalke because he was the one who had a relationship with Harbaugh while he was at Stanford.

So the Baalke and harbaugh at odds was correct ?..because that was the first Rumor, or do people just chose what they want to hear

You're forgetting about the person within the organization that is starting those rumors.