Paraag Marathe Thread

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Basically they'll take a lessor player if he's cheaper.

lol great

That explains the division III level talent on the roster with 80 million of cap space.

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by DelCed2486:

Him and Billy Beane get together and jack each other off over a pile of Excel spreadsheets.

The difference is that Billy Beane has actually been successful despite regularly burdened with a low payroll. Beane has made a lot of mistakes but he's also had success in a very unfavorable situation with spendthrift owners. The 49ers outside of the Harbaugh years have been terrible.

Success as in sometimes fielding competitive teams good enough to get beat in first round of playoffs? Sure, I'll give Beane that...and that he did help re-shape the way players/stats are viewed and valued.

As for the A's payroll, yes there's a "cap" which is ridiculous given the A's are NOT the "small market" team they pretend to be, and that majority owner Fisher is one of the richest owners in MLB...AND thanks to their cheapness and MLB welfare, they're one of the more profitable teams. Not to mention Beane is a minority owner with a vested interest in this BS low payroll.

And really just f**k him, arrogant pr**k still won't admit that in 2014 his idiotic trade of Cespedes during a pennant chase destroyed what was the best team in baseball at that point and their best chance in 25 years to win a ring. And while we're at it, f**k the Yorks and Marathe.

http://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/WHO-IS-PARAAG-MARATHE-Numbers-added-up-to-2703495.php

Marathe's ascension coincided with the departure of Walsh and director of football operations John McVay, which could have been more than a coincidence. Privately, neither liked the statistical approach Donahue espoused. Marathe and his computer shot down Walsh and McVay's trade proposals during the 2003 draft. This didn't sit well with either man, who had built the 49ers' success partly on their impulses.
Contacted recently, Walsh didn't want to comment on the team's direction.
"Can a computer help determine who you pick on draft day?" Walsh asked. "I don't know, maybe it can."



Old article but it speaks volumes as to how much Jed respects the past...

Trading our $9 million dollar receiver to draft picks once we've decided the season is over...that's moneyball 101

Originally posted by rdc1:

Originally posted by jcs:
http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/11/19/9698608/paraag-marathe-the-man-behind-the-curtain

Could Analytics be the reason why we went with Gabbert and company instead of drafting a new QB?

I suspect that the conflict between Harbaugh and the front office, did not start with Baalke, but with Marathe. Starting first with the FO trying to force Harbaugh to use the analytics. The conflict grew as the stadium was nearing completion with a few will publicized issues (keep in mind that Marathe was the FO lead on the stadium project). The first was the fight over the locker room. Harbaugh wanted the new stadium locker room for games only, the FO wanted the team to use it for practice as well. The second conflict was over the teams entry into the stadium. The FO wanted to copy Dallas and have the team enter the stadium through the VIP area. The problem was that the only way the team could do that is if the home team side was on the sunny side of the field. Harbaugh considered having the opposing team sit in the sun to be a competitive advantage.

From some reports Baalke was Harbaughs last supporter in the FO. Given a choice between Harbaugh and the owner, easy to see why he would have taken York's side and maintain his job by demonstrating the loyalty that Jed seems to value above winning.

At the time, Baalke was considered a good GM and would've gotten another job easily. Unless he was dead set against moving, if all of what you said is true, I'd support Harbaugh if I'm Baalke. And I'd gladly leave the 49ers if York prefers to listen to Maathe over the football people. I've worked for enough stupid people in my lifetime.

Whatever happened to that fat b*****d with the high pitched voice that ranted about Marathe on the daily?

I love my brown people, my best friend is a Brahmin, this guy needs to go, if his influence goes beyond the contacts/salary cap.

Hiring a guy with a business background, who has a masters in Business administration...did he grow up playing football....American football? Did he follow the. NFL for yrs or decades like other guys growing up? If he had a job with Bain Capital, Mitt Romney's old company, then this guy IS Business 101. But where is the football knowledge that so many fans have acquired over the past decades? Where did he learn that a skinny kid from Notre Dame who wasn't really a star while there, not really a starter til near the end, who then caught Walsh's eye with some spectacular post season play, and who when playing during the season had that "it" factor....yet really was never a great collegiate star....how would Paraag know about that kind of football.

Sounds as if he has his own variables, puts them into the computer program, and BINGO, out comes the answer. If according to BIG John York, he was part of the HC search committee, and early on too, then it sounds like he brot something new, something scientific to the table. But if he slowly gained more power in the organization, this business guy wiht limited or perhaps even no football experience in the past, gained traction and a power base, I can see how scientifically, he ascended in the F.O. It also means if this is correct, that we got a non football guy , high up in the chain, advising a kid owner about football matters and issues. Being part of a HC talent search? Why not just get some guy off the street who has followed the 9ers for yrs and have him help in getting a HC? Or a GM? Or players.

I sure hope the above is not true, because if so, a good many of the horrible errors in the past 16 yrs or so (eg firing Mooch with a 10-6 record...and then having no idea who to replace him)....that sounds like something a computer could spit out. Somebody, or somebodys in the F.O is making bad decisions and has been doing so for most of last 16 yrs. Jed...we know he loves football, but is really green. He literally inherited our team. If he got some business/computer guy as his go to guy, that would help explain why the F.O has been so feckless, so awful. If paraag truly grew up not a big fan of football, and then with his business background has assumed a major role in getting players, coaches, GMs, etc, then I can see why we are in the horrid shape we find ourselves.

Now more than ever we have to have a Head of Football Ops, and he needs to be a football guy thru and thru. If he wants some stats info from paraag, fine. But if a non football guy like paraag is using his business acumen to help lead this team....then we know one of the people that has helped screw up this franchise so badly. If paraag is used as a tool , that is one thing. If he is used as part of the F.O making decisions, then that is something way different. The fact we know so little about him makes one wonder , "just exactly what is this non-football guy doing helping make the major decisions on this team." An awful lot of our F.O problems have come from making good business deals, and NOT from making good football deals. Paraag could help explain why so many really screwball F.O decisions have been so miserably bad...and have continued to help keep us at the bottom of the league.

Originally posted by jcs:
http://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/WHO-IS-PARAAG-MARATHE-Numbers-added-up-to-2703495.php

Marathe's ascension coincided with the departure of Walsh and director of football operations John McVay, which could have been more than a coincidence. Privately, neither liked the statistical approach Donahue espoused. Marathe and his computer shot down Walsh and McVay's trade proposals during the 2003 draft. This didn't sit well with either man, who had built the 49ers' success partly on their impulses.
Contacted recently, Walsh didn't want to comment on the team's direction.
"Can a computer help determine who you pick on draft day?" Walsh asked. "I don't know, maybe it can."



Old article but it speaks volumes as to how much Jed respects the past...

They are trying to be a Silicon Valley startup, the smartest guys in the room, finding a new way of continually winning in football, beating all these dumb mouth-breathing meatheads at their own game except they don't know what the hell they are doing.


I do believe that Jed wants to win, but the problem is that he only wants to win in his way. Its not enough just to win, they have to be innovative and edgy while doing it, they have to "change the game" with their approach but their approach hasn't yielded any success outside of the years with Harbaugh who was as old-school as it gets.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
They are trying to be a Silicon Valley startup, the smartest guys in the room, finding a new way of continually winning in football, beating all these dumb mouth-breathing meatheads at their own game except they don't know what the hell they are doing.


I do believe that Jed wants to win, but the problem is that he only wants to win in his way. Its not enough just to win, they have to be innovative and edgy while doing it, they have to "change the game" with their approach but their approach hasn't yielded any success outside of the years with Harbaugh who was as old-school as it gets.

Sad thing is "old school" works with the right people but our owner may never accept that because he wants to do it "his" way....

Originally posted by jcs:
Sad thing is "old school" works with the right people but our owner may never accept that because he wants to do it "his" way....

The focus on analytics started with John York. Since he is still co-Chairman, I would not be surprised if Paraag is his guy in the FO to keep an eye on Jed.

Originally posted by rdc1:

Originally posted by jcs:

Sad thing is "old school" works with the right people but our owner may never accept that because he wants to do it "his" way....

The focus on analytics started with John York. Since he is still co-Chairman, I would not be surprised if Paraag is his guy in the FO to keep an eye on Jed.

I wonder how their analytics team missed on the blatant Numbers showing how inefficient Chips offense is.

Originally posted by glorydayz:
This is the guy that is really running the show.

This guy is the real BOSS

Originally posted by jcs:

http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/11/19/9698608/paraag-marathe-the-man-behind-the-curtain

Could Analytics be the reason why we went with Gabbert and company instead of drafting a new QB?

Not sure why this guy is suddenly being put on the spot. He's the guy that makes the deals happen based on what Baalke gives him. He's the capologist and money guy, with analytics, not necessarily the decision maker. Baalke gets all that credit and shouldn't share any of the blame with Anyone else. Last year I recall Marathe had a title change to move him more away from personnel decisions.

Baalke's people may be trying to shift and share the blame, but he should not be let off the hook. When a new GM is chosen, he should have the final call in the management composition, including what happens to Marathe.

Originally posted by mitpdub:

Originally posted by jcs:
http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/11/19/9698608/paraag-marathe-the-man-behind-the-curtain

Could Analytics be the reason why we went with Gabbert and company instead of drafting a new QB?

Not sure why this guy is suddenly being put on the spot. He's the guy that makes the deals happen based on what Baalke gives him. He's the capologist and money guy, with analytics, not necessarily the decision maker. Baalke gets all that credit and shouldn't share any of the blame with Myone else. Last year I recall Marathe has a title change to move him more away from personnel decisions.

Baalke's people may be trying to shift and share the blame, but he should not be let off the hook. When a new GM is chosen, they should have the final call in the management composition, including what happens to Marathe.

He's also involved in drafting players and telling the coach when to challenge a play or use a timeout.

He's probably just like Baalke, out on the field running side practices with a position group.