Justin Smith, one of the all-time best 49er defensive linemen appreciation thread.

Florio posts rumors about Harbaugh...Florio is a hack.

Florio posts rumor reflecting negatively on the FO...f**k this FO, fire everyone because no one wants to play for them.

Originally posted by NinerG94:

Originally posted by mojave45:
If he wants to come back and play somewhere else...sure. But there would need to be compensation for giving another team a jewel like that even if it was only for a year. No reason to let him go for free. He signed a contract. And got paid. He will have to honor his commitment if he comes back to the NFL. As to not wanting to play for a rebuilding team, or whatever the reason is, presuming any of this is true, tough s&$t. It is a business. And he has made good money at it. If he retired rather than ply for a team he thought was going down the tubes, he certainly showed no loyalty so why should the team? That stuff runs both ways, doesn't it?

Funny, if the FO chases a player off, or screws one in the minds of the webzoners it is an awful thing. If a player tries to pull a fast one on the team, then hey, bend over backwards and let him go, eat the contract, he gave us some good years, blah, blah, blah. It is a freaking business, and if he didn't want to play here, ok. He retires and he is done. He wants to come back? Deal with the consequences.

Yeah and when a pursuing contending team is put off by what the 49ers are wanting for compensation and retracts their offer and with it Justin's chance at a ring? Some players are worth the exception. It's a business, yes but decisions like the one you just suggested are the reason nobody wants to play here. Do you work in the front office? Nice work Jed. Sometimes a team's integrity is worth more than draft picks. Justin is that exception.

No, I don't work in the front office,nor hold them in high regard, but your obvious bias against them is glaring. First, I don't believe the article is true and vetted yet, but even if it is, why in the world would you just give away someone under contract to help another team? Sorry, 49ers first, second, third, and only, in my thoughts. What would tat say to the league, and other players, to allow a player to retire rather than play for your organization, then come back after a year and go somewhere else for no compensation? Ignorant, short sighted, and bad for the team. Integrity works both ways by the way. If Smith was lying about his health to get out of playing for us he has none. And I really don't believe that. So, I was posing a hypothetical response to an unverified story, that if true would mean the player was liar and a weasel. His character has never been questioned that way in the past by the way. But in your case, if this were true, you would let a liar and a weasel do as he wished, and the front office are the bad guys? Holy crap, what kind of thinking is that?

Originally posted by NinerGM:
There's this need by some 49er "fans" to be right about doom and gloom because of some perceived personal wrong the team has committed than actually root for the team to succeed. Many of them like the national reporters they so vehemently criticized when the team was winning are now the peddlers of those same rumors as "evidence" that nothing will get better. Then when challenged, accuse others of being too optimistic about the team winning. Maybe it's me but shouldn't you want "your team" to win? I'm really lost on the definition these days of "love the players" but "hate everything else" but then hate those who choose and coach the players. I've never I my 38 years watching NFL squads see a percentage of fan base hate it's and team and so actively root against its success.

This.

Originally posted by SoCold:

Just another player that didnt want to play for Trent/Jed.

Not surprising at all.

your totally right man. Had nothing to do with his injuries, advanced age, and three straight long seasons with deep playoff runs. Was all Trent and Jed. With a better owner and GM Smith wouldnt retire until hes 45! Spot on

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by SoCold:
Just another player that didnt want to play for Trent/Jed.

Not surprising at all.

your totally right man. Had nothing to do with his injuries, advanced age, and three straight long seasons with deep playoff runs. Was all Trent and Jed. With a better owner and GM Smith wouldnt retire until hes 45! Spot on

Originally posted by English:
If he didn't want to play for he 49ers why did it take him so long to make his mind up? He could have dropped a rant about Jed or Trent or the waterboy and walked away. But he didn't. He agonised about it for an age, before announcing his retirement. I don't recall any comment about a lack of love for the team at the time. I think this is another invention. But if it isn't I believe he will come out in the open and say it.

Add to that the fact that he was a guest of the team multiple times last year.

This story is BS, plain and simple.

Originally posted by NinerGM:

There's this need by some 49er "fans" to be right about doom and gloom because of some perceived personal wrong the team has committed than actually root for the team to succeed. Many of them like the national reporters they so vehemently criticized when the team was winning are now the peddlers of those same rumors as "evidence" that nothing will get better. Then when challenged, accuse others of being too optimistic about the team winning. Maybe it's me but shouldn't you want "your team" to win? I'm really lost on the definition these days of "love the players" but "hate everything else" but then hate those who choose and coach the players. I've never I my 38 years watching NFL squads see a percentage of fan base hate it's and team and so actively root against its success.

I think it all stems from the decision to move on from Harbaugh.

Wanting your team to win isn't synonymous with hapless daydreaming. Being critical of the front office isn't the same as being a hater. But many people on this board take them as the same thing.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Wanting your team to win isn't synonymous with hapless daydreaming. Being critical of the front office isn't the same as being a hater. But many people on this board take them as the same thing.

Well said and efficient👏

Originally posted by NinerGM:

There's this need by some 49er "fans" to be right about doom and gloom because of some perceived personal wrong the team has committed than actually root for the team to succeed. Many of them like the national reporters they so vehemently criticized when the team was winning are now the peddlers of those same rumors as "evidence" that nothing will get better. Then when challenged, accuse others of being too optimistic about the team winning. Maybe it's me but shouldn't you want "your team" to win? I'm really lost on the definition these days of "love the players" but "hate everything else" but then hate those who choose and coach the players. I've never I my 38 years watching NFL squads see a percentage of fan base hate it's and team and so actively root against its success.

Last year was an embarrassment on the part of our fans. Pathetic that they didn't rally to support Jimmy T after all he had done for the team and his Cinderella life story. Yes he didn't work out as HC, but it's disgusting and pathetic that our fans cheered against him before he even coached a game

And spare me the "rat" nonsense. Harbaugh needed to go and firing him was 100% the right decision. Tomsula not being the right decision doesn't change that.

Originally posted by TheRambler:

Originally posted by NinerGM:
There's this need by some 49er "fans" to be right about doom and gloom because of some perceived personal wrong the team has committed than actually root for the team to succeed. Many of them like the national reporters they so vehemently criticized when the team was winning are now the peddlers of those same rumors as "evidence" that nothing will get better. Then when challenged, accuse others of being too optimistic about the team winning. Maybe it's me but shouldn't you want "your team" to win? I'm really lost on the definition these days of "love the players" but "hate everything else" but then hate those who choose and coach the players. I've never I my 38 years watching NFL squads see a percentage of fan base hate it's and team and so actively root against its success.

Last year was an embarrassment on the part of our fans. Pathetic that they didn't rally to support Jimmy T after all he had done for the team and his Cinderella life story. Yes he didn't work out as HC, but it's disgusting and pathetic that our fans cheered against him before he even coached a game

And spare me the "rat" nonsense. Harbaugh needed to go and firing him was 100% the right decision. Tomsula not being the right decision doesn't change that.

i dont think the fan base cheered against Tomsula, i think we all cheered against the FO for obviously throwing away a whole season by selecting a HC who had no idea what he was doing

Originally posted by NinerGM:
There's this need by some 49er "fans" to be right about doom and gloom because of some perceived personal wrong the team has committed than actually root for the team to succeed. Many of them like the national reporters they so vehemently criticized when the team was winning are now the peddlers of those same rumors as "evidence" that nothing will get better. Then when challenged, accuse others of being too optimistic about the team winning. Maybe it's me but shouldn't you want "your team" to win? I'm really lost on the definition these days of "love the players" but "hate everything else" but then hate those who choose and coach the players. I've never I my 38 years watching NFL squads see a percentage of fan base hate it's and team and so actively root against its success.

You went there eh?

Originally posted by TheRambler:
Last year was an embarrassment on the part of our fans. Pathetic that they didn't rally to support Jimmy T after all he had done for the team and his Cinderella life story. Yes he didn't work out as HC, but it's disgusting and pathetic that our fans cheered against him before he even coached a game

And spare me the "rat" nonsense. Harbaugh needed to go and firing him was 100% the right decision. Tomsula not being the right decision doesn't change that.

You expect unwavering support from 9er fans? 9er fans have to be the worst fans in that regard. Love you today, hate you tomorrow. Tomsula was terrible and the way he pined for the job and was a monumental disaster, he deserves the jeers.

Originally posted by Blindfury:

You expect unwavering support from 9er fans? 9er fans have to be the worst fans in that regard. Love you today, hate you tomorrow. Tomsula was terrible and the way he pined for the job and was a monumental disaster, he deserves the jeers.

Ok, I'll bite. Which teams fans are different?

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Just another player that didnt want to play for Trent/Jed.

Not surprising at all.

your totally right man. Had nothing to do with his injuries, advanced age, and three straight long seasons with deep playoff runs. Was all Trent and Jed. With a better owner and GM Smith wouldnt retire until hes 45! Spot on

You think he wanted to play for that joke of a coaching staff?

Wake up.