New Principle Owner Jed York Thread

Originally posted by JBrack:
The Yorks were just naive and had no idea how to run a sports franchise. They were trying to run it like a business at first. Even famously charging for sodas in the vending machines.

Years later they have figured it out... Its about people and relationships, not just money...

My best guess is that Denise is a decent business person but she had little interest in the 49ers. She gave the team to John and then to Ned to manage and when both of them screwed it up, she said enough is enough and took on many of the business making decisions, of late, on herself.

If I were to wager a guess, she managed to stuff Ned in a closet and Denise was the one that was instrumental in bringing in Shanny and Lynch. Ned will occasionally make an appearance but he's just a figure head these days. He's just a balding boy who has been stripped of all his duties.

And yes.....this is a good thing.

Originally posted by pete98146:

Originally posted by JBrack:

The Yorks were just naive and had no idea how to run a sports franchise. They were trying to run it like a business at first. Even famously charging for sodas in the vending machines.

Years later they have figured it out... Its about people and relationships, not just money...

My best guess is that Denise is a decent business person but she had little interest in the 49ers. She gave the team to John and then to Ned to manage and when both of them screwed it up, she said enough is enough and took on many of the business making decisions, of late, on herself.

If I were to wager a guess, she managed to stuff Ned in a closet and Denise was the one that was instrumental in bringing in Shanny and Lynch. Ned will occasionally make an appearance but he's just a figure head these days. He's just a balding boy who has been stripped of all his duties.

And yes.....this is a good thing.

Still can't admit it huh

I give credit to Jed for Lynch, Shanny, Jimmy, and Jimmy's new fat contract.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

I give credit to Jed for Lynch, Shanny, Jimmy, and Jimmy's new fat contract.

The true hero of the contract negotiation

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

I give credit to Jed for Lynch, Shanny, Jimmy, and Jimmy's new fat contract.

The true hero of the contract negotiation

Yep. Still haven't forgiven him for letting Harbaugh go, but getting Shana Lynch and Jimmy is helping me get over it.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
I give credit to Jed for Lynch, Shanny, Jimmy, and Jimmy's new fat contract.

The true hero of the contract negotiation

Yep. Still haven't forgiven him for letting Harbaugh go, but getting Shana Lynch and Jimmy is helping me get over it.

TBH, letting Harbaugh go was a good thing. Dude was going to keep Greg Roman.

Originally posted by pete98146:

Originally posted by JBrack:

The Yorks were just naive and had no idea how to run a sports franchise. They were trying to run it like a business at first. Even famously charging for sodas in the vending machines.

Years later they have figured it out... Its about people and relationships, not just money...

My best guess is that Denise is a decent business person but she had little interest in the 49ers. She gave the team to John and then to Ned to manage and when both of them screwed it up, she said enough is enough and took on many of the business making decisions, of late, on herself.

If I were to wager a guess, she managed to stuff Ned in a closet and Denise was the one that was instrumental in bringing in Shanny and Lynch. Ned will occasionally make an appearance but he's just a figure head these days. He's just a balding boy who has been stripped of all his duties.

And yes.....this is a good thing.

Is calling Jed "Ned" supposed to be some smart insult? If so, it's a weird one.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
I give credit to Jed for Lynch, Shanny, Jimmy, and Jimmy's new fat contract.

The true hero of the contract negotiation

Yep. Still haven't forgiven him for letting Harbaugh go, but getting Shana Lynch and Jimmy is helping me get over it.

TBH, letting Harbaugh go was a good thing. Dude was going to keep Greg Roman.

lol yeah.. it was due to not knowing his own playbook

Originally posted by captveg:
Is calling Jed "Ned" supposed to be some smart insult? If so, it's a weird one.

Jed + Nil = Ned. Sorry, I'll never be a fan of this guy. I think mom had to step in to save the franchise and she's done a great job. Hard for me to believe Jed had much of a role in turning this thing around. Still think a frustrated Denise finally had enough and she got involved.

Originally posted by pete98146:

Originally posted by JBrack:

The Yorks were just naive and had no idea how to run a sports franchise. They were trying to run it like a business at first. Even famously charging for sodas in the vending machines.

Years later they have figured it out... Its about people and relationships, not just money...

My best guess is that Denise is a decent business person but she had little interest in the 49ers. She gave the team to John and then to Ned to manage and when both of them screwed it up, she said enough is enough and took on many of the business making decisions, of late, on herself.

If I were to wager a guess, she managed to stuff Ned in a closet and Denise was the one that was instrumental in bringing in Shanny and Lynch. Ned will occasionally make an appearance but he's just a figure head these days. He's just a balding boy who has been stripped of all his duties.

And yes.....this is a good thing.

Sorry but this is wrong. Jed York is still the man in charge and we have zero evidence to suggest otherwise

I love the argument that Jed is no longer cheap.

1. A franchise tag would have been close (maybe a 4 million discount?) to what they are paying him yearly anyway. Plus, if they waited another year, it could have been a Kirk Cousins type situation. They went with the market price which was smart.

2. 120 Million in cap space....you better make that deal happen regardless.

3. If you think this is a lot of money (and it is), just wait until February of 2019 when this contract looks modest.

Why does he get credit for this in the first place? It's not like he was the dude who wrote the contract. He said he's staying out of personnel decisions as an owner should. Lynch and whoever wrote the contract should get more credit than Jed.You have a franchise QB and you pay him. it's that simple. Lets see what else happens during free agency before we can remove the "cheap" label. The Yorks will never be truly accepted by 49ers fans for the terrible decisions and leadership shown since their ownership. Yes, they have gotten close to the top. But until they bring the 6th trophy home, they deserve the criticisms they get. And frankly, bay area media is awfully soft on them IMO.

Originally posted by pete98146:

Originally posted by JBrack:
The Yorks were just naive and had no idea how to run a sports franchise. They were trying to run it like a business at first. Even famously charging for sodas in the vending machines.

Years later they have figured it out... Its about people and relationships, not just money...

My best guess is that Denise is a decent business person but she had little interest in the 49ers. She gave the team to John and then to Ned to manage and when both of them screwed it up, she said enough is enough and took on many of the business making decisions, of late, on herself.

If I were to wager a guess, she managed to stuff Ned in a closet and Denise was the one that was instrumental in bringing in Shanny and Lynch. Ned will occasionally make an appearance but he's just a figure head these days. He's just a balding boy who has been stripped of all his duties.

And yes.....this is a good thing.

I'm sorry (not really), but this is such unadulterated BS.

Its nuts how desperate people are to screw the facts to fit a narrative. I mean really...when have you EVER seen Denise do ANYTHING in regards to the team? I've seen her in the owners box like twice and she accepted the NFC Championship Trophy a few years ago, but thats about it. She is totally hands off.

Jed gets the blame for all that he's done wrong. No question.

If you refuse tho to ALSO give him the credit when he does right then you are just being silly.

Its like those peeps who hold people accountable for every mistake and then just explain away the successes as the "obvious" choices.

Get real.

Originally posted by Seansf49:
I love the argument that Jed is no longer cheap.

1. A franchise tag would have been close (maybe a 4 million discount?) to what they are paying him yearly anyway. Plus, if they waited another year, it could have been a Kirk Cousins type situation. They went with the market price which was smart.

2. 120 Million in cap space....you better make that deal happen regardless.

3. If you think this is a lot of money (and it is), just wait until February of 2019 when this contract looks modest.

You have a franchise QB and you pay him. it's that simple. Lets see what else happens during free agency before we can remove the "cheap" label.

um.....and how do you explain that he was paying 3 HCs at the same time to make sure that he got it right? How do you explain twin 6 year contracts at 4-5 mil apiece for Lynch and Shanahan?

The "cheap" excuse on Jed is and was always BS. Now his dad? Thats fair. But Jed?

Harbaugh had the highest paid coaching staff in the NFL. He didn't leave over money. He left over a personality clash....something Harbaugh has had EVERYWHERE HE'S EVER BEEN.

Tomsula? Yeah. Bad hire, but wasn't about the Money. Kelly? Again...so-so hire and not about the money. Both of those guys were still getting paid before Kelly got the UCLA job and Jed fired them anyway TO GET IT RIGHT which it looks like he's done now.

Cap space? Cap space isn't real $$$. IE, the team doesn't just get to pocket what it doesn't spend. The CBA doesn't allow that. There is a rolling 3 year Salary Floor. When you don't spend all your cap space, you can roll it into the next year. THAT and the fact that they haven't drafted anyone worth giving a huge extension to are the reasons why they have so much cap space.

So I ask you....outside of the cap situation and Harbaugh contract, why exactly is Jed cheap? You have an argument that could be made for him being somewhat incompetent for the Tomsula and Kelly hires, but Cheap? Explain that one to me please.

Originally posted by Marvin49:
um.....and how do you explain that he was paying 3 HCs at the same time to make sure that he got it right? How do you explain twin 6 year contracts at 4-5 mil apiece for Lynch and Shanahan?

The "cheap" excuse on Jed is and was always BS. Now his dad? Thats fair. But Jed?

Harbaugh had the highest paid coaching staff in the NFL. He didn't leave over money. He left over a personality clash....something Harbaugh has had EVERYWHERE HE'S EVER BEEN.

Tomsula? Yeah. Bad hire, but wasn't about the Money. Kelly? Again...so-so hire and not about the money. Both of those guys were still getting paid before Kelly got the UCLA job and Jed fired them anyway TO GET IT RIGHT which it looks like he's done now.

Cap space? Cap space isn't real $$$. IE, the team doesn't just get to pocket what it doesn't spend. The CBA doesn't allow that. There is a rolling 3 year Salary Floor. When you don't spend all your cap space, you can roll it into the next year. THAT and the fact that they haven't drafted anyone worth giving a huge extension to are the reasons why they have so much cap space.

So I ask you....outside of the cap situation and Harbaugh contract, why exactly is Jed cheap? You have an argument that could be made for him being somewhat incompetent for the Tomsula and Kelly hires, but Cheap? Explain that one to me please.

+1. Good post, Marvin.