Originally posted by qnnhan7:Wonder what the honest answer that Kyle said to Jed at the interview
'I need 5 years to fix this s**t show'
You think he was that optimistic?
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Originally posted by qnnhan7:Wonder what the honest answer that Kyle said to Jed at the interview
'I need 5 years to fix this s**t show'
Originally posted by Bluesbro:
The Golden Rule. He's the owner and can do anything he wants. Fortunately it has not been to the detriment of the team lately. It seems like he has learned some good lessons.
I don't want jed deciding who to keep on the roster in any capacity. Should he have a say if they ask? Sure. He shouldn't have the final word though. That ain't right.Originally posted by Bluesbro:Originally posted by Young2Rice:Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:I was in the anti-Jed crowd during that dark patch but he said the right thing here, IMO. Nobody is safe, no matter how talented. He needed to be real for at least a second on that.
The issue for me is he's admitting to making personnel decisions. That is what the gm and Hc are hired to do. Basically if shanny and lynch want to keep a player and jed does not, the player is gone. I don't really like that.
You think Jed would do that without discussion with at least Lynch and Shanny? Now if they disagreed then Jed could obviously still make the call. But I would bet a large sum of money that there would be much discussion about it first, and most likely agreement from everyone. Or at least an understanding of why Jed says that this player has to go. This is a whole lot of nothing, but I can understand why people are gun shy of anything Jed.
Originally posted by OneMoreRing:Whether Jed has the "right" to comment on Foster is immaterial to me. When I read his comments on Foster I got a sinking "oh no" feeling in my gut.
Jed, until the team wins at least one playoff game, you need to simply STFU. I am not even close to being over your stupidity around Harbaugh / Ballke / Tomsula / Kelly, and I don't care what you have to say. You are a little rich kid who got an NFL team handed to him. Know your limitations. Write the checks, shut your mouth, and if your team really starts winning consistently, you will have earned the right to put your toe back in the water.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Solid comment by Jed. Nothing wrong with it:
"We'd love Reuben to be on this team," York told Lombardi. "We'd love him to participate for us. But if he's not doing things off the field that allow us to be able to rely on him ... then you're just going to have to move on. I know Reuben is very cognizant of where his position is right now. His time with the 49ers can potentially be over if he continues to do things outside the team that aren't what we want him to be a part of.
"Reuben is making those steps to understand what it means to be a pro football player and part of the 49ers, but he's also cognizant that responsibility is on him and we're here to help in any way, shape, or form so he can be the right type of person for our team."
Originally posted by Young2Rice:Originally posted by OneMoreRing:Whether Jed has the "right" to comment on Foster is immaterial to me. When I read his comments on Foster I got a sinking "oh no" feeling in my gut.
Jed, until the team wins at least one playoff game, you need to simply STFU. I am not even close to being over your stupidity around Harbaugh / Ballke / Tomsula / Kelly, and I don't care what you have to say. You are a little rich kid who got an NFL team handed to him. Know your limitations. Write the checks, shut your mouth, and if your team really starts winning consistently, you will have earned the right to put your toe back in the water.
Money post.
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
I don't want jed deciding who to keep on the roster in any capacity. Should he have a say if they ask? Sure. He shouldn't have the final word though. That ain't right.
Originally posted by mojave45:Originally posted by qnnhan7:Wonder what the honest answer that Kyle said to Jed at the interview
'I need 5 years to fix this s**t show'
You think he was that optimistic?
Originally posted by qnnhan7:Originally posted by mojave45:Originally posted by qnnhan7:Wonder what the honest answer that Kyle said to Jed at the interview
'I need 5 years to fix this s**t show'
You think he was that optimistic?
How 'bout: You have no GM, no HC, no QB, half roster of NFL talents—and you're going more bald by the minute
Originally posted by Young2Rice:I don't want jed deciding who to keep on the roster in any capacity. Should he have a say if they ask? Sure. He shouldn't have the final word though. That ain't right.Originally posted by Bluesbro:Originally posted by Young2Rice:Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:I was in the anti-Jed crowd during that dark patch but he said the right thing here, IMO. Nobody is safe, no matter how talented. He needed to be real for at least a second on that.
The issue for me is he's admitting to making personnel decisions. That is what the gm and Hc are hired to do. Basically if shanny and lynch want to keep a player and jed does not, the player is gone. I don't really like that.
You think Jed would do that without discussion with at least Lynch and Shanny? Now if they disagreed then Jed could obviously still make the call. But I would bet a large sum of money that there would be much discussion about it first, and most likely agreement from everyone. Or at least an understanding of why Jed says that this player has to go. This is a whole lot of nothing, but I can understand why people are gun shy of anything Jed.
Originally posted by Bluesbro:
You missed my point completely. I said it would be a collaborative effort, lots of discussion with at least Lynch and Shanny. Do you disagree with this? The bottom line is York has final say in anything, especially something that will affect his (or his moms) investment commodity. I also said I can understand about worrying about Jed from past mistakes, but it seems like he has learned some good lessons.
Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by OneMoreRing:Whether Jed has the "right" to comment on Foster is immaterial to me. When I read his comments on Foster I got a sinking "oh no" feeling in my gut.
Jed, until the team wins at least one playoff game, you need to simply STFU. I am not even close to being over your stupidity around Harbaugh / Ballke / Tomsula / Kelly, and I don't care what you have to say. You are a little rich kid who got an NFL team handed to him. Know your limitations. Write the checks, shut your mouth, and if your team really starts winning consistently, you will have earned the right to put your toe back in the water.
Don't know if I agree here. Not trying to rehash stuff but the reason all that happened was because he gave the keys to the car to Baalke and got out of the way. Stupid for trusting Baalke? Maybe, but it's hard to not have any credibility in "GM of the Year." Of course we know that's all BS because of personnel choices Baalke made and power plays and control that went down. My thing is that you credit where credit is due and give criticism where its due also. Granted we haven't won a playoff game yet, but anyone who thinks the arrow being up has nothing to do with Jed is fooling themselves. Never forget; we were reportedly seriously talking to Josh McDaniels. Yeah if we had been part of that debacle, this board would literally be on fire.
Originally posted by NinerGM:Yeah, people are just set on what they want to imagine.. but in reality it was all Baalke
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
He didn't get out of the way, he fought with the person who turned the team around and pushed him out the door and he created a FO that was highly dysfunctional and unstable. All of those problems fall squarely on the CEO.
On the flip side, he deserves credit for changing the culture he created by hiring Shanahan and Lynch.
According to whom? I guess this is up for debate. Honestly, I don't really believe any "leak" that came for 49er HQ when it's been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Baalke was not only the leaker but set people in the organization against each other. Baalke was supposed to be the mediator for everyone but obviously, that wasn't the case. But again, I'm not saying you're wrong just saying it's a particular perspective of what happened.