New Principle Owner Jed York Thread

Double post

Originally posted by 9erson3:
Jed has grown on me. A lot of folks coming down on the guy. Look at the Lions latest retool and look what Jed did a number of years ago. He has done everything correctly.

And I doubt he is sitting there taking it. I can't remember the incident for the life of me but remember a couple of years back he blew up. Not sure if it was a loss or what happened but he blew a gasket and stormed out and ended up driving the wrong way out of the stadium? He was livid.

Don't think his office has been a bed of roses for John and Kyle. Bet they are getting their asses ripped open. Give Jed some credit. He is not some timid little wall flower. He's co-owner.

Kyle's little it's me speech may be a direct result of nice beat down today by Jed.

jed beating someone down. i am sorry. but that is laughable, jed is crap. a crap owner who is unwilling to unable to understand the disconnect between the team and fans since they left the stick

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by mrbusinessman499:
Fire Kyle. Bring back Jim. Championship

Harbaugh couldnt win a championship if he was 5 yards away from it. Give it a rest history revisionist

we were ready to play games. we won games. we had an identity when roman was not being stupid. we were very very well coached and we tackled very well. kyle could not win two winnable super bowls. those losses were on kyle., 100 per cent

41-13 enough said, who fires a 41-13 coach, only jed cause he got his feelings hurt

One who pisses off the people he works for, just like he always has dating back to his playing days. and failing to develop Colin Kaepernick despite being labeled a "QB whisper" because Andrew Luck played for Stafford

i could understand the fanbase staning over a coach if he actually won championships, but Harbaugh?! Foh

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
One who pisses off the people he works for, just like he always has dating back to his playing days. and failing to develop Colin Kaepernick despite being labeled a "QB whisper" because Andrew Luck played for Stafford

jh had no desire to work with ck and i do not blame him. i think he saw ck was a one trick pony. by then he had checked out and i do not blame him... oh news flash.... jimmy is the same or worse now as compared to when he came here. and trey was put in bad spots by the alleged boy wonder when he played and kyle got him hurt.. kyle can not develop a qb to save his life

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
One who pisses off the people he works for, just like he always has dating back to his playing days. and failing to develop Colin Kaepernick despite being labeled a "QB whisper" because Andrew Luck played for Stafford

jh had no desire to work with ck and i do not blame him. i think he saw ck was a one trick pony. by then he had checked out and i do not blame him... oh news flash.... jimmy is the same or worse now as compared to when he came here. and trey was put in bad spots by the alleged boy wonder when he played and kyle got him hurt.. kyle can not develop a qb to save his life

Lmao Jim Harbaugh and the organization is on record saying Colin Kaepernick was HIS handpicked QB. If what you were saying was correct, Alex Smith would've been back under center after the Bears game that season. Not sure what Jimmy has to do with Harbaughs failure to develop Kap.imo Jimmy is better than Kap (not saying much) either way both QBs have been huge disappointments, so not sure why you would want to waste time comparing the 2 right now

Jed gave Shanahan a 3-year extension after he blew the Super Bowl and that extension came in year 3 of Shanahan´s 6-year original contract.

Jed is and always will be a freaking moron that makes childish decisions.

If he has to look for another head coach in january he´ll fail again. We´re doomed with him.

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by mrbusinessman499:
Fire Kyle. Bring back Jim. Championship

Harbaugh couldnt win a championship if he was 5 yards away from it. Give it a rest history revisionist

we were ready to play games. we won games. we had an identity when roman was not being stupid. we were very very well coached and we tackled very well. kyle could not win two winnable super bowls. those losses were on kyle., 100 per cent

41-13 enough said, who fires a 41-13 coach, only jed cause he got his feelings hurt

Why didn't Harbaugh sign the extension he was offered?

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
One who pisses off the people he works for, just like he always has dating back to his playing days. and failing to develop Colin Kaepernick despite being labeled a "QB whisper" because Andrew Luck played for Stafford

jh had no desire to work with ck and i do not blame him. i think he saw ck was a one trick pony. by then he had checked out and i do not blame him... oh news flash.... jimmy is the same or worse now as compared to when he came here. and trey was put in bad spots by the alleged boy wonder when he played and kyle got him hurt.. kyle can not develop a qb to save his life

Lmao Jim Harbaugh and the organization is on record saying Colin Kaepernick was HIS handpicked QB. If what you were saying was correct, Alex Smith would've been back under center after the Bears game that season. Not sure what Jimmy has to do with Harbaughs failure to develop Kap.imo Jimmy is better than Kap (not saying much) either way both QBs have been huge disappointments, so not sure why you would want to waste time comparing the 2 right now

if people can waste time comparing kyle to walsh then i will do what i want with my time, jh will never admit it. but after a year i think jh saw ck for what he really was. and by then he had checked out due to trent and jed,. then ck really had no coaches to work with him and he went in a different direction in order to deflect from the fact he is a bad qb. i am sorry alex.. i bought into the ck thing. kyle has never developed a qb. name one.. ryan was good before kyle got there

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
One who pisses off the people he works for, just like he always has dating back to his playing days. and failing to develop Colin Kaepernick despite being labeled a "QB whisper" because Andrew Luck played for Stafford

jh had no desire to work with ck and i do not blame him. i think he saw ck was a one trick pony. by then he had checked out and i do not blame him... oh news flash.... jimmy is the same or worse now as compared to when he came here. and trey was put in bad spots by the alleged boy wonder when he played and kyle got him hurt.. kyle can not develop a qb to save his life

Lmao Jim Harbaugh and the organization is on record saying Colin Kaepernick was HIS handpicked QB. If what you were saying was correct, Alex Smith would've been back under center after the Bears game that season. Not sure what Jimmy has to do with Harbaughs failure to develop Kap.imo Jimmy is better than Kap (not saying much) either way both QBs have been huge disappointments, so not sure why you would want to waste time comparing the 2 right now

if people can waste time comparing kyle to walsh then i will do what i want with my time, jh will never admit it. but after a year i think jh saw ck for what he really was. and by then he had checked out due to trent and jed,. then ck really had no coaches to work with him and he went in a different direction in order to deflect from the fact he is a bad qb. i am sorry alex.. i bought into the ck thing. kyle has never developed a qb. name one.. ryan was good before kyle got there

Didn't know you were a personal friend of Harbaugh. Any cool stories from 2011-13 era that many of us may not know about??

End of the day, Kap was Harbaugh's guy, and him not meeting expectations falls on Jim as well as Kap

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
Didn't know you were a personal friend of Harbaugh. Any cool stories from 2011-13 era that many of us may not know about??

End of the day, Kap was Harbaugh's guy, and him not meeting expectations falls on Jim as well as Kap

yes, the little fat man in the suit bob lang stepped in between jh and the lions coach that day otherwise they would have come to blows. lol, and his nickname after that fight was clubber

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by 9erson3:
Jed has grown on me. A lot of folks coming down on the guy. Look at the Lions latest retool and look what Jed did a number of years ago. He has done everything correctly.

And I doubt he is sitting there taking it. I can't remember the incident for the life of me but remember a couple of years back he blew up. Not sure if it was a loss or what happened but he blew a gasket and stormed out and ended up driving the wrong way out of the stadium? He was livid.

Don't think his office has been a bed of roses for John and Kyle. Bet they are getting their asses ripped open. Give Jed some credit. He is not some timid little wall flower. He's co-owner.

Kyle's little it's me speech may be a direct result of nice beat down today by Jed.

jed beating someone down. i am sorry. but that is laughable, jed is crap. a crap owner who is unwilling to unable to understand the disconnect between the team and fans since they left the stick

Jed could help the fans by installing that shade he said was coming over the stadium. The reason why you don't see fans on the one side in the 2nd half is either they already had heatstroke and their face and eyes burned, or the team stinks so bad it's better to drink at the stadium bars than watch crap get worse.

Originally posted by mitpdub:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by 9erson3:
Jed has grown on me. A lot of folks coming down on the guy. Look at the Lions latest retool and look what Jed did a number of years ago. He has done everything correctly.

And I doubt he is sitting there taking it. I can't remember the incident for the life of me but remember a couple of years back he blew up. Not sure if it was a loss or what happened but he blew a gasket and stormed out and ended up driving the wrong way out of the stadium? He was livid.

Don't think his office has been a bed of roses for John and Kyle. Bet they are getting their asses ripped open. Give Jed some credit. He is not some timid little wall flower. He's co-owner.

Kyle's little it's me speech may be a direct result of nice beat down today by Jed.

jed beating someone down. i am sorry. but that is laughable, jed is crap. a crap owner who is unwilling to unable to understand the disconnect between the team and fans since they left the stick

Jed could help the fans by installing that shade he said was coming over the stadium. The reason why you don't see fans on the one side in the 2nd half is either they already had heatstroke and their face and eyes burned, or the team stinks so bad it's better to drink at the stadium bars than watch crap get worse.

LOL.

I must say, with all due respect, I find it very hard to see the logic behind some of the moves you have made with this fine organization. In the past twenty years, you have caused myself, and the city of San Francisco a good deal of distress as we have watched you take our beloved Niners and reduced them to a laughing stock, all for the glorification of your massive ego.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
The York family fired 2 winning HC (Harbaugh and Mariucci), and the result is 1 winning season out of 14 seasons (2003 to 2010, 2015-2020).

Harbaugh knew they were kicking him out. York should have giving him a contract extension in his 3rd season with the team.

This is sad, because it leads to a league wide understanding that you will not be rewarded for success with the San Francisco 49ers. As a coach or player, it all comes down to if they like you and not what you do on the field.

How can you explain Compton making the team, and then starting a game after a rookie started and played well at tackle this year? How is Jimmy G still starting? Is player development and scouting THAT bad?

The Debartolo-York era will be most known for the players they passed up in the draft and the winning coaches they moved on from in order to clear the way for losing coaches. Whereas the Eddie D Era was very successful by bringing in the right coaches, drafting well, and creating a very challenging environment for everyone. Eddie D would do whatever it took to win, accountability was always present within the 49ers organization because there was a real Leader/Boss in charge.

You can't compare the Eddie D days to the current regime. Eddie had no salary cap so he spent whatever he wanted. There was no free agency to deal with either. Eddie screwed up big time with his first GM hire. Joe Thomas made a terrible trade that for O J Simpson. (one1st, 2 seconds, a 3rd and a 4th) Simpson could barely run at that point. Eddie realized after a couple years that Thomas was the wrong guy and hit pay dirt with Walsh.

BINGO

& the 5 Super Bowl trophy's that followed proves my point. Not only did Eddie D have a salary cap towards the end, Eddie is probably the soul reason why most sports have a salary cap.

There was no cap until 1994 when the Niners manipulated some contracts and pushed them down the road so they could bring in every future HOF player that was available. The Niners had some good drafts under Walsh but he had his share of misses including some 1st rounders. Walsh never has to deal with free agency since that didn't start until 1993. There were also 12 rounds in the draft so every team had more chances to find quality players since there were fewer tams.

It's just not a fair comparison between Jed York and Eddie D. It's like comparing Joe Montana and Brady. Both great players but two completely different eras. I have no problem with Jed. He's shown he's willing to eat salary if he makes a bad hire. Yes he could have made better hires but Harbaugh was fine until he got into a pissing contest with Balke. Kyle looked okay when he was hired. Lot's of teams have made mistakes with their HC and GM hires since there's no real way to know who will be good until you give them a shot. Being a good assistant doesn't mean you can wear the crown.

Which one is Jed Brady or Montana? lol

You keep making the same mistakes and you start looking at luck instead of skill.

Walsh showed that drafting talent is a skill.

You keep ignoring the fact that Walsh had up to 5 more draft picks every year and didn't have as many teams to compete against. He had a better chance of landing talent. Still he missed on some 1st rounders. No matter how skilled you are you are going to have misses. You still have to have a lot of luck. Back in Bill's era, he was often drafting for depth since they weren't losing players via free agency. If they missed on one it wasn't that big a deal.

He had a great draft in 1981 when he drafted 3 great DBs to add with Dwight Hicks. They were set for years and didn't need to replace a guy every year. That's one of biggest things that keeps teams from staying on top for long. As soon as a team gets good, some of the players want more money and end up leaving. Two steps forward and one back. We knew the roster from top to bottom almost every year. Unless a guy retired or was cut loose, the roster didn't change much. Now you have to learn the new guys numbers every year.

Those extra picks were like having 5 extra 7th round picks today. What Walsh had was a plan for drafting talent. He knew exactly what he was looking for in a QB, WR, O/L, ect. Walsh had no better chance of landing talent than anyone else in any draft. You forget that Walsh found his FQB in round 3 of the draft. Our current front office has no plan for anything let alone the draft.

Could you imagine Walsh being in dire need of a QB, but passing on a QB like Mahomes & Watson in order to draft Solomon Thomas? Or could you imagine Walsh drafting any CB, just for the sake of taking one like we did this past draft? Walsh drafted guys that fit his system and he was wrong sometimes, but even when he was wrong he was focused on winning those 3 SB rings and he delivered. Walsh never let bad draft picks hold him back, he always found a way to win.

Here's what a conversation between Kyle Shanahan & John Lynch:

Let's guess on a DT from Stanford, Let's bring in Brian Hoyer, let's trade a 2nd round pick for a back up QB and then give him a multi year $100+ million contract after 6 games. That didn't work, so now let's trade away 3 first round draft picks and draft a new QB but let's play the other guy. We need O-linemen, let's take this guy that doesn't really fit our system in the second round. Now let's sit all of our draft picks except a RB and S and see what happens. By the way, let's trade our best D-lineman and grab a D-lineman in the first round. Why not rent a WR and go to the super bowl, it will only cost us a 3rd round pick. THIS not luck is the difference between Walsh/Eddie D and this new 49ers Leadership thing that we have making the decisions.

Those extra 5 picks weren't like 7th rounders today. With fewer teams the draft was much deeper. Good players were still available in those later rounds. Plus like I said. teams were often drafting for depth not starters. he drafted Dwight clark in the 10th round.Bobby Leupold in the 8th. Dana McLemore in thr 10th. Jesse Sapolu in the 11th Chet Brooks in the 11t. All those players became starter and in some case pro bowlers.

His biggest whiff was Todd shell in round one. He was more of a bust than Thomas. Jeff Bregal a guard picked in the 2nd round was a roid rager and got released. Rickey Moore was a RB picked right after Rice and Moore never did anything. Rice more than made up for that. Then when he wanted a QB he took RB James Owens with their first pick. He got lucky that Montana was still there in round 3.

I'm just pointing out that Walsh as great as he was had his failures and his share of luck. It wasn't all just skill.

Luck is having Bosa fall into your lap at #2.

Skill is hiring coaches that are teachers who can teach players how to play within your scheme. Skill is drafting players and having a plan for developing them (see late round guys developing into pro bowlers). Skill is teaching your players life skills so that they become better men and lead higher quality lives. Skill is starting a minority coaching program so that your players see that you are invested in their communities and not just their development as football players.

Eddie D built Camelot, first organization to pay for players to have their own single hotel rooms with room service when traveling to away games. Paid players well, and gave them perks (vacations & bonuses). Brought that mafia family atmosphere to the organization. Created the term "first class organization". Eddie D was in the people business, but there was no free rides - everyone works hard!

Football is 95% skill & 5% luck. Bill Walsh didn't operate on luck, he used skill. Walsh was playing Chess when everyone else was playing checkers.

This is whats wrong with the team, owners to blame, i want to know the algorithm they used to determine Nolan >> Holmgren LOLWTFBBQ