New Principle Owner Jed York Thread

Originally posted by Young2Owens:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
What is so bad about what they've done with the team? They managed to get a new stadium built and keep them in the Bay Area (unlike theRaiders and probably the As). The team has been competitive the since Shanny took over. They have a top lineup again this year. Jed doesn't meddle in the team operations and make stupid decisions like so many egotistical owners. So what's so bad about them? As it was pointed out, there's no way they can operate the way Eddie D did. The rules are different now.

My Highest hate level for Jed was after the Harbaugh Debacle and the hiring of Tomsula.

After hitting it big with KS and John Lynch and just staying in the background, I have grown a lot more respect for him. He did what he needed to do to be a good to great owner.

The Harbaugh thing was a mistake. He sided with the wrong guy but given Harbaugh's history he probably would have left anyway.

John York realized after a couple of years that running a football team wasn't his thing. A lot of rich owners never realize that and try to run it themselves. He turned it over to his eager but young son who had to learn on the fly. He may not be the best or most influential owner but we could do a lot worse like Washington and Arizona. The Bears have poor ownership now and they struggle every year.

The one thing he said in that post-Harbaugh exit press conference that I feel was his primary goal was "I want a teacher" when it came to a head coach. Now, he significantly underestimated other needed skills that Tomsula and Kelly obviously didn't have, but Shanahan also fits the "teacher head coach" ideal, and arguably better than almost any possible candidate that has been available out there in the last decade. So, he wasn't wrong on that particular outlook.

I have a theory that Jed had Kyle in mind from the moment he fired Jim. But Kyle just wasnt ready yet so the org just went with stand ins until Kyle became ready

I wish I could believe that.

I really think Jed (with an assist from Baalke) was enamored with Tomsula's personability and manner in which he worked with the DL for the decade prior, and expected it to translate when put in a position to lead the whole team, but of course Tomsula's lack of creative mind for overall (and specifically offensive) strategy doomed him. The awkwardness with the media that Tomsula had could have been tolerated if he could actually coach strategically at the NFL HC level.

Then, with Kelly, Jed had very poor options as any worthy candidates with more leverage than the just-fired Kelly saw the writing on the wall for Baalke as GM. On top of that Baalke clearly saw Kelly as someone he could bring in that wouldn't have enough control to threaten his decisions. Despite this (and despite Kelly/Baalke being so lacking in a cohesive gameplan) Kelly in principle fit Jed's idea for a "teacher" with his at-one-time innovative offense.

The big problem there was that Kelly was the opposite of Tomsula on the personable side, and when it become crystal clear that his approach to offense could not be sustained in the NFL he was dead in the water. Vets like Joe Staley could at least respect Tomsula as a person even if they saw how ill suited he was for a NFL HC gig, but Kelly was bad at his job and a d-bag in the eyes of such vets.

Luckily Jed also saw the opportunity to jettison Baalke along with Kelly, Kyle became available, and Lynch also had the itch to get into a front office, fulfilling another requirement Jed now clearly saw with a HC - the need to be in unison with the GM.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
company stock hits its peak during the pandemic and then begins to fall as schools start to reopen. Why wouldn't you start selling shares?

This is also a great point. Those suing would have to prove it was because of the scandal that the board decided to sell shares and not for any other valid reason. Unless they have actual proof like communications stating "let's sell because of the scandal before everyone else finds out" any other legitimate reasoning can be used as a defense, with "pandemic was over and we figured the stock would go down" being a pretty logical one.

Proving motive here is going to be extremely difficult.

Ya if they have no emails, texts, etc then this will go nowhere

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
I have a theory that Jed had Kyle in mind from the moment he fired Jim. But Kyle just wasnt ready yet so the org just went with stand ins until Kyle became ready

I think Jed hit a grand slam with Kyle but in no way do I think he somehow planned all this right after canning harbaugh lol

and I do agree with Jed to fire harbaugh, he's a flaming nut job who had to go. As bad as hiring tomsula and Kelly was, it did get us Kyle, in a weird twist of fate

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
I think Jed hit a grand slam with Kyle but in no way do I think he somehow planned all this right after canning harbaugh lol

and I do agree with Jed to fire harbaugh, he's a flaming nut job who had to go. As bad as hiring tomsula and Kelly was, it did get us Kyle, in a weird twist of fate

Shouldve just hired the Shanahans in 2005. That was the mistake.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
I think Jed hit a grand slam with Kyle but in no way do I think he somehow planned all this right after canning harbaugh lol

and I do agree with Jed to fire harbaugh, he's a flaming nut job who had to go. As bad as hiring tomsula and Kelly was, it did get us Kyle, in a weird twist of fate

Shouldve just hired the Shanahans in 2005. That was the mistake.

Hard to do when Mike was still the Broncos HC (through 2008) and Kyle was between gigs as a quality control assistant (with Tampa) and becoming the WR coach in Houston.

I was furious when we chose chip Kelly over the Shanahans in 2016. I know they had openly said they wouldn't retain Kap, (after 2015 I wanted him gone anyways) so the team went with Kelly to give that experiment one more year.
I think it is sheer luck that Kyle fell to us a year later. It corrected the mistake we made letting Mike leave the building in '95 and not hiring him after 2008 and going with Dingleberry.

have to state that we got York. He learned his lessons and that's why we are a perennial sb contenter for years.
You want to see the opposite? Look at the panthers.

Originally posted by communist:
have to state that we got York. He learned his lessons and that's why we are a perennial sb contenter for years.
You want to see the opposite? Look at the panthers.

Originally posted by communist:
have to state that we got York. He learned his lessons and that's why we are a perennial sb contenter for years.
You want to see the opposite? Look at the panthers.

he set the standard, and had the players and coaches simply followed it, we would be the back to back to back to back to back to back defending NFL champs by now. Maybe this year they will meet the standard, we can raise the banner

PAY THE FINE…CLOTHE THE NINERS IN THEIR '94 ALL-WHITE THROWBACKS NEXT WEEK 💰💰💰💰

Man I see that Jed York just recently got his flowers. Glad to see this young chap that took over back in the Nolan days has finally got his club to where he was trying to get it to. Some folk here wanted to crucify him and even I was pissed when we got rid of Harbaugh. Dude kept talking about winning with class but now I see old figures coming back around and the old crew coaching now like the Hawk and Frank Gore.

Jed is on his way to developing a new Niner standard and I'm loving it. Great job Jed York and crew!

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
I have a theory that Jed had Kyle in mind from the moment he fired Jim. But Kyle just wasnt ready yet so the org just went with stand ins until Kyle became ready

It was kind of reported at the time that Denise stepped in and told her son Kyle was the target to be their next HC if memory serves.

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
I have a theory that Jed had Kyle in mind from the moment he fired Jim. But Kyle just wasnt ready yet so the org just went with stand ins until Kyle became ready

It was kind of reported at the time that Denise stepped in and told her son Kyle was the target to be their next HC if memory serves.

The DeBartolo gene 🧬

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
I have a theory that Jed had Kyle in mind from the moment he fired Jim. But Kyle just wasnt ready yet so the org just went with stand ins until Kyle became ready

It was kind of reported at the time that Denise stepped in and told her son Kyle was the target to be their next HC if memory serves.

That didn't happen. There wouldn't have been the uproar in hiring tomsula & Kelly if we were just waiting for Kyle

I mean…there had to have been the feeling in the organization and among the Yorks/Debartalos that Mike Shanahan was the one that got away, and so they had to have had their eye on Kyle's career for a long time.