New Principle Owner Jed York Thread

Originally posted by kray28:
So a bald faced lie by Jed can be turned around and blamed on the audience as fault of their own ignorance. That's rich.

We know Jim was fired but I could argue that they both lied with their signed agreements

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by susweel:
All the pro jed people want everyone to share their veies and opinions on ownership.

What a blanket statement. I'm sure it is always wise to generalize folk. Can't the same be said for Jed's detractors? I won't generalize either side

My bad I shouldn't have said All, change that to some.

Originally posted by captveg:
There's no reason to have the 49er players made available to media personalities that have shown they are only there to twist, distort and instigate. Murphy burned the bridge with his agenda-fueled interview, so freezing him out for a while as a repercussion for it is perfectly fine by me until his "gotcha" tactics take a back seat to actual journalistic integrity.

Absolutely right, too many media personalities act as if anyone owes them something. It's unfortunate that so much of the public actually believes these people are owed something. There is very little, if any, journalistic integrity left in sports media and the MSM.

Originally posted by kray28:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by kray28:
Jed didn't tell Murphy it was "legally mutual", he told him it was "mutual" and everyone who heard the interview assumed it meant "50/50 agreement". A lie of omission is never the truth.

People can assume whatever they want; their ignorance of the phrase's meaning is just that. Anyone that knows NDA and other legal document language knows that "mutual" is a legal terminology.

So a bald faced lie by Jed can be turned around and blamed on the audience as fault of their own ignorance. That's rich.

That's not at all what I said.

People use agreed to terms because of business NDAs all the time. They are not "lies" in the sense that while they are not completely revealing to the process, they are technically correct. Jim was not fired from a legal standpoint. The agreement to end the contract without further payment or a formal resignation by Harbaugh could only be done with a signed agreement for both parties to walk away, which legally is a mutual parting, and not a firing.

In regards to ignorance, being ignorant is not to imply being a stupid person or anything like that. It just means not having the specific informed knowledge of how these legal matters work, and therefore people unaware of why the "mutual" terminology was used from that standpoint can misinterpret it as being a "lie". Which it isn't, from a technical viewpoint.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by kray28:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by kray28:
Jed didn't tell Murphy it was "legally mutual", he told him it was "mutual" and everyone who heard the interview assumed it meant "50/50 agreement". A lie of omission is never the truth.

People can assume whatever they want; their ignorance of the phrase's meaning is just that. Anyone that knows NDA and other legal document language knows that "mutual" is a legal terminology.

So a bald faced lie by Jed can be turned around and blamed on the audience as fault of their own ignorance. That's rich.

That's not at all what I said.

People use agreed to terms because of business NDAs all the time. They are not "lies" in the sense that while they are not completely revealing to the process, they are technically correct. Jim was not fired from a legal standpoint. The agreement to end the contract without further payment or a formal resignation by Harbaugh could only be done with a signed agreement for both parties to walk away, which legally is a mutual parting, and not a firing.

In regards to ignorance, being ignorant is not to imply being a stupid person or anything like that. It just means not having the specific informed knowledge of how these legal matters work, and therefore people unaware of why the "mutual" terminology was used from that standpoint can misinterpret it as being a "lie". Which it isn't, from a technical viewpoint.

Very well put.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by kray28:
So a bald faced lie by Jed can be turned around and blamed on the audience as fault of their own ignorance. That's rich.

We know Jim was fired but I could argue that they both lied with their signed agreements

We are all going to speculate but I believe Jed is the liar in this instance. I worked a job for a summer. Initially I thought it was a great opportunity... possible dream job. As it went on, it was easy to see that my boss micro managed things and was difficult to work for. Wanted everything done her way and i was allowed no creativity. At the end of the summer, she said i could quit or be fired. Family wanted me to get fired and get workmans comp. I could care less about that. I have never had problems finding a job and there's something in me that just says I don't need to be fired. Don't want that going into my next job. So "we mutually parted ways." Which is bull crap.

Not saying this is exactly what happened but I believe Harbs when he said multiple times that we work at the mercy of our employer??? The guy above you ultimately decides. Jed can have a signed statement but that's how he views it. It's what Harbaugh thought was best as well.

This isn't a bash Jed statement. This is just simply how i view that situation. I don't buy what Jed is saying. Just thinks he wanted it to be mutual so that if Tomsula doesn't work out he can't get ripped for "firing Harbs", he can just say Harbaugh wanted to move on as well.

The homers in this board don't want you to ask the tough questions about their boy king. They just want you to drink the kool-aid right along with them



Baaaaa

Originally posted by monsterzero789:
The homers in this board don't want you to ask the tough questions about their boy king. They just want you to drink the kool-aid right along with them



Baaaaa

Tough questions are one thing. Ignorance of terms, and taking statements out of context to suit a silly agenda are another. From what I've read, most on this board do not understand what "class" is, either. Many are still confusing it with snobbery.

Originally posted by OKC49erFan:

Originally posted by monsterzero789:
The homers in this board don't want you to ask the tough questions about their boy king. They just want you to drink the kool-aid right along with them



Baaaaa

Tough questions are one thing. Ignorance of terms, and taking statements out of context to suit a silly agenda are another. From what I've read, most on this board do not understand what "class" is, either. Many are still confusing it with snobbery.

I think Jed was being classy and respectful to Harbaugh by saying it was a mutual parting. Unclassy would have been "I fired his a$$ because he was no good". Harbaugh should have said right off the bat " I was fired". Not beat around the bush and throw half answers out there.

This thread needs to calm down. Now. Suspensions have already started.

Originally posted by jacklegniner:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by kray28:

So a bald faced lie by Jed can be turned around and blamed on the audience as fault of their own ignorance. That's rich.

We know Jim was fired but I could argue that they both lied with their signed agreements

We are all going to speculate but I believe Jed is the liar in this instance. I worked a job for a summer. Initially I thought it was a great opportunity... possible dream job. As it went on, it was easy to see that my boss micro managed things and was difficult to work for. Wanted everything done her way and i was allowed no creativity. At the end of the summer, she said i could quit or be fired. Family wanted me to get fired and get workmans comp. I could care less about that. I have never had problems finding a job and there's something in me that just says I don't need to be fired. Don't want that going into my next job. So "we mutually parted ways." Which is bull crap.

Not saying this is exactly what happened but I believe Harbs when he said multiple times that we work at the mercy of our employer??? The guy above you ultimately decides. Jed can have a signed statement but that's how he views it. It's what Harbaugh thought was best as well.

This isn't a bash Jed statement. This is just simply how i view that situation. I don't buy what Jed is saying. Just thinks he wanted it to be mutual so that if Tomsula doesn't work out he can't get ripped for "firing Harbs", he can just say Harbaugh wanted to move on as well.

Pretty much this

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by kray28:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

I don't understand the point of this thread anymore. If it's just a repository for insults and personal derogatory comments, how does that promote discussion? Just asking.

Fans need a place to discuss ownership. The nature of the comments in the thread is simple a causal function of ownership's actions. There are plenty of pro-Jed posts in here though. That's why it's a discussion. If your wish is a "kiss Jed's ass" thread, I don't think you're going to get it.

Discuss? When are a litany of insults discussion? Insults are more like venting - which I understand but it's not a discussion.

And susweel - I don't think there needs to be a sharing of opinion, I just don't get why a thread of insults is discussion and if the only purpose it serves is a place where people can vent insults what's the point after the same insults have been cycled through for a while.

Its just a place to vent. If all the venting stopped this thread would of been been on page 4 by now. People rarely come in here to praise yorK independent of defending against the haters.

Its the veting, followed by defending york, following by insults. Rinse and repeat.

The fact that so many think Willis is retiring because of Jed York is unreal. Tells me all I need to know about 75% of Niner fans...

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
The fact that so many think Willis is retiring because of Jed York is unreal. Tells me all I need to know about 75% of Niner fans...

No, but I think seeing Tomsula as coach might have something to do with it...who was the first person to start pushing PW for the HOF? Jim Harbaugh...think about it.