Originally posted by vermonator:
Love Bowman, but he isn't the same player he once was. He may have been able to get a lot of tackles last year, but he missed a lot more, and can't cover to save his life. Remember that great play he made to close out the Stick? Well, he can't make plays like that anymore. I wish him well, but if he's your best linebacker on the field then your defense is in trouble.
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Jan 11, 2018 at 9:06 AM
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Jan 11, 2018 at 9:10 AM
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6-10 is hardly special.
Says the guy who predicted that they'd go 0-16.
6-10 and 0-16 are not far apart in my book. They are pretty much the same. No playoffs. Having said that, you did see tremendous improvement down the stretch going 5-0. I think you have to give Kyle some credit to spot Jimmy as a potential good QB - before he came here. Same with Kirk Cousins and BeatHard, it seems Kyle has that knack for seeing good QB's. I think Eventually BeatHard is going to be a good QB, we'll see.
Jan 11, 2018 at 9:26 AM
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Bowman was NOT traded
Jan 11, 2018 at 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by Giedi:Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Originally posted by susweel:6-10 is hardly special.
Says the guy who predicted that they'd go 0-16.
6-10 and 0-16 are not far apart in my book. They are pretty much the same. No playoffs. Having said that, you did see tremendous improvement down the stretch going 5-0. I think you have to give Kyle some credit to spot Jimmy as a potential good QB - before he came here. Same with Kirk Cousins and BeatHard, it seems Kyle has that knack for seeing good QB's. I think Eventually BeatHard is going to be a good QB, we'll see.
Jan 11, 2018 at 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by Giedi:6-10 and 0-16 are not far apart in my book. They are pretty much the same. No playoffs. Having said that, you did see tremendous improvement down the stretch going 5-0. I think you have to give Kyle some credit to spot Jimmy as a potential good QB - before he came here. Same with Kirk Cousins and BeatHard, it seems Kyle has that knack for seeing good QB's. I think Eventually BeatHard is going to be a good QB, we'll see.
Tell the players that 0-16 and 6-10 aren't much different.
Jan 11, 2018 at 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by Niners99:Originally posted by Giedi:6-10 and 0-16 are not far apart in my book. They are pretty much the same. No playoffs. Having said that, you did see tremendous improvement down the stretch going 5-0. I think you have to give Kyle some credit to spot Jimmy as a potential good QB - before he came here. Same with Kirk Cousins and BeatHard, it seems Kyle has that knack for seeing good QB's. I think Eventually BeatHard is going to be a good QB, we'll see.
Tell the players that 0-16 and 6-10 aren't much different.
Im sure the browns players would love to be on ANY 6-10 team right now
Jan 11, 2018 at 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by teylo31:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by Giedi:
6-10 and 0-16 are not far apart in my book. They are pretty much the same. No playoffs. Having said that, you did see tremendous improvement down the stretch going 5-0. I think you have to give Kyle some credit to spot Jimmy as a potential good QB - before he came here. Same with Kirk Cousins and BeatHard, it seems Kyle has that knack for seeing good QB's. I think Eventually BeatHard is going to be a good QB, we'll see.
Tell the players that 0-16 and 6-10 aren't much different.
Im sure the browns players would love to be on ANY 6-10 team right now
I'm just thinking of the mass healthcare crisis involving heart attacks in Cleveland if their team ever strung together 6 wins consecutively.
Jan 11, 2018 at 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by Geeked:Originally posted by teylo31:Originally posted by Niners99:Originally posted by Giedi:6-10 and 0-16 are not far apart in my book. They are pretty much the same. No playoffs. Having said that, you did see tremendous improvement down the stretch going 5-0. I think you have to give Kyle some credit to spot Jimmy as a potential good QB - before he came here. Same with Kirk Cousins and BeatHard, it seems Kyle has that knack for seeing good QB's. I think Eventually BeatHard is going to be a good QB, we'll see.
Tell the players that 0-16 and 6-10 aren't much different.
Im sure the browns players would love to be on ANY 6-10 team right now
I'm just thinking of the mass healthcare crisis involving heart attacks in Cleveland if their team ever strung together 6 wins consecutively.
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Jan 11, 2018 at 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by vermonator:
Love Bowman, but he isn't the same player he once was. He may have been able to get a lot of tackles last year, but he missed a lot more, and can't cover to save his life. Remember that great play he made to close out the Stick? Well, he can't make plays like that anymore. I wish him well, but if he's your best linebacker on the field then your defense is in trouble.
My buddy is a Raider fan and tilted his head when I told him Bowman is on the downhill slide. Gave me tackling statistics... I gave him Derek Smith's tackling statistics... Along with a couple of gifs.
Jan 11, 2018 at 11:22 PM
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Originally posted by Geeked:My buddy is a Raider fan and tilted his head when I told him Bowman is on the downhill slide. Gave me tackling statistics... I gave him Derek Smith's tackling statistics... Along with a couple of gifs.
Did he not watch Bowman? He needs like 45 feet to come to a stop when running, and if the runner doesn't stay in Bowman's gap, he has no chance to change direction and get him. He's purely a straight ahead run defender now.
Jan 11, 2018 at 11:39 PM
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Originally posted by Geeked:Originally posted by Giedi:Originally posted by vermonator:Love Bowman, but he isn't the same player he once was. He may have been able to get a lot of tackles last year, but he missed a lot more, and can't cover to save his life. Remember that great play he made to close out the Stick? Well, he can't make plays like that anymore. I wish him well, but if he's your best linebacker on the field then your defense is in trouble.
My buddy is a Raider fan and tilted his head when I told him Bowman is on the downhill slide. Gave me tackling statistics... I gave him Derek Smith's tackling statistics... Along with a couple of gifs.
There is a reason i dont have any raider fan friends and why i dont talk football with raider fans
Jan 12, 2018 at 1:41 PM
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Originally posted by teylo31:
Bowman was NOT traded
Yeah I meant to say we got rid of him
Jan 12, 2018 at 5:53 PM
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Originally posted by Geeked:Originally posted by Giedi:Originally posted by vermonator:Love Bowman, but he isn't the same player he once was. He may have been able to get a lot of tackles last year, but he missed a lot more, and can't cover to save his life. Remember that great play he made to close out the Stick? Well, he can't make plays like that anymore. I wish him well, but if he's your best linebacker on the field then your defense is in trouble.
My buddy is a Raider fan and tilted his head when I told him Bowman is on the downhill slide. Gave me tackling statistics... I gave him Derek Smith's tackling statistics... Along with a couple of gifs.
Show him footage of bow pre knee destruction. Dude was on his way to being the goat. Sucks
Jan 12, 2018 at 6:01 PM
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Originally posted by ChazBoner:Originally posted by Geeked:Originally posted by Giedi:Originally posted by vermonator:Love Bowman, but he isn't the same player he once was. He may have been able to get a lot of tackles last year, but he missed a lot more, and can't cover to save his life. Remember that great play he made to close out the Stick? Well, he can't make plays like that anymore. I wish him well, but if he's your best linebacker on the field then your defense is in trouble.
My buddy is a Raider fan and tilted his head when I told him Bowman is on the downhill slide. Gave me tackling statistics... I gave him Derek Smith's tackling statistics... Along with a couple of gifs.
Show him footage of bow pre knee destruction. Dude was on his way to being the goat. Sucks
I will miss him and willis lined up next to ea other. Almost couldn't tell the difference except for the 2 or 3. Like twins
Jan 13, 2018 at 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by teylo31:
I will miss him and willis lined up next to ea other. Almost couldn't tell the difference except for the 2 or 3. Like twins
Sorta like Rice & Taylor, except for the 0 or 2.