Hunter vs James

Originally posted by Kaepmandu:
If Hunter was going to be good.he would've been by now...James seems to have more potential...And neither will approach Gore.

I'd hate to have to live up to your standards.


I like em both and am happy we have em.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by xela510:
Hunter easily, I honestly think we would have won the superbowl with hunter.

I think so too, that guy is freakin dangerous with screen passes. I can't remember which game it was but as soon as he caught that screen he was gone for 10-15 yards, don't know why Roman abandon it this season.

Absolutely.

Screen passes have to be a greater part of the Niners' repertoire. Roman just forgot about it, it seems and I could recall many situations when it would have been an ideal call. Hopefully Roman will adjust his thinking. Hunter was great at it, with his vision and initial burst.

One word of caution on Hunter: I've read where noone has returned from an Achilles rupture and been the same player. We've just been assuming that he will be.

Originally posted by TheChozen:
I'd hate to have to live up to your standards.


I like em both and am happy we have em.

Of course I have high standards...I'm a niner fan!!

Both Hunter and James have their own specific abilities and are good at what they do...But Gore carries the mail and teams have to have a game plan to contain him.
It's nice to have a team with so much talent where it's hard to get everyone involved in all the different schemes we have...

Originally posted by Rsrkshn:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by xela510:

Hunter easily, I honestly think we would have won the superbowl with hunter.

I think so too, that guy is freakin dangerous with screen passes. I can't remember which game it was but as soon as he caught that screen he was gone for 10-15 yards, don't know why Roman abandon it this season.

Absolutely.

Screen passes have to be a greater part of the Niners' repertoire. Roman just forgot about it, it seems and I could recall many situations when it would have been an ideal call. Hopefully Roman will adjust his thinking. Hunter was great at it, with his vision and initial burst.

One word of caution on Hunter: I've read where noone has returned from an Achilles rupture and been the same player. We've just been assuming that he will be.

I read that as well, but that was generally in the case of full tears. Guys like Suggs partially tore theirs and had a quicker recovery time and played relatively the same. The fact that Hunter is going to be ready for camp, that he was walking around on the sidelines throughout the playoffs leads me to believe his tear was a partial. If it was a full tear his recovery time would have been around a year if not more, which would have put his return past midseason. At least that is what i am hoping.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Rsrkshn:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by xela510:
Hunter easily, I honestly think we would have won the superbowl with hunter.

I think so too, that guy is freakin dangerous with screen passes. I can't remember which game it was but as soon as he caught that screen he was gone for 10-15 yards, don't know why Roman abandon it this season.

Absolutely.

Screen passes have to be a greater part of the Niners' repertoire. Roman just forgot about it, it seems and I could recall many situations when it would have been an ideal call. Hopefully Roman will adjust his thinking. Hunter was great at it, with his vision and initial burst.

One word of caution on Hunter: I've read where noone has returned from an Achilles rupture and been the same player. We've just been assuming that he will be.

I read that as well, but that was generally in the case of full tears. Guys like Suggs partially tore theirs and had a quicker recovery time and played relatively the same. The fact that Hunter is going to be ready for camp, that he was walking around on the sidelines throughout the playoffs leads me to believe his tear was a partial. If it was a full tear his recovery time would have been around a year if not more, which would have put his return past midseason. At least that is what i am hoping.

Well . . . here's hoping your right.

The emergence of James should really help Hunter's recovery so he can take his time and not do anymore damage.

I'm a big fan of Hunter, though don't think he can take the pounding to be an every down back. Now, with the injury...who knows. But I love the way he runs and catches the ball and felt he was underutilized as a rook and even early last year.

The team obviously drafted James because of his familiarity with the spread offense and he seemed more comfortable out of the backfield than Gore did.

It's funny how different their styles are. I'd say Hunter is more of a traditional back, hitting the hole or making one cut and exploding whereas James is more of a dancer at the line, deciding where he wants to go and has the quickness to make it work.

I don't love that both are so small, and that's why I feel like we'll definitely have to find a RB for the future. I think the coaches would love to see James become that small, fast KR/PR with Hunter the main backup. Not sure it will work that way if James is the better back for the spread.

All in all, I like Hunter more. I don't dislike James at all, I just like Hunter's style more.

It's not an either/or thing. They're both real good. Hunter seems more up to spelling Gore when you add blitz protection into the mix and James is an excellent change of pace back in the mold of a Darrin Sproles, but faster.

Originally posted by GNielsen:
It's not an either/or thing. They're both real good. Hunter seems more up to spelling Gore when you add blitz protection into the mix and James is an excellent change of pace back in the mold of a Darrin Sproles, but faster.

of course this is the truth and then as i have in other posts,, threw in some love for dixon on short down yardage plays

I think any RB can come in and do a fine job behind this stud Oline. The RB just has to be decisive and hit the holes 100% and not fumble. Easy 4.5+ yards per carry average.

I think highly of Hunter. The guy runs hard and is small which I like in a RB. The 'built like a bowling ball' body type is great for hiding behind the massive Oline and lower center of gravity makes him hard to bring down. Only question about Hunter is can he handle a 15-20 carry workload 16+ games a year. If so, we have our successor to Gore. If not, a platoon backfield works just fine.

Originally posted by Kaepmandu:

Originally posted by TheChozen:
I'd hate to have to live up to your standards.


I like em both and am happy we have em.

Of course I have high standards...I'm a niner fan!!

Both Hunter and James have their own specific abilities and are good at what they do...But Gore carries the mail and teams have to have a game plan to contain him.
It's nice to have a team with so much talent where it's hard to get everyone involved in all the different schemes we have...

Hunter is a beast. you're crazy. He just needs to learn to cut for the sideline.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

try to trade gore for a #1 in 2014 ?

Blasphemy... I hear by banish you to Seahawks forums... go in peace

Originally posted by Constantine:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

try to trade gore for a #1 in 2014 ?

Blasphemy... I hear by banish you to Seahawks forums... go in peace

I said try...how about a 2nd then

Sarcasm*

There both awesome... but hunter due to xp and better all around back. Not saying James isn't or can't be.... but time will tell

It always seemed that when Hunter first got real playing time they usually called an end run of some sort. It was really predictable for awhile.

The old "you don't lose your position because of injury" is an old wives tale. Some coaches may use players out of loyalty or intimidation by the fans or owner, but it is never the right thing to do. If LMJ is better, he should start. Same for any position on the team.

Sports is a heartless meritocracy.