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jonnydel
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Originally posted by GameOver:
Jonnydel, if you're going to break down the Bucs game (which you should, btw lol), I think it wouldn't hurt to create a new thread for it.
I'm planning to do just that. The NFL hasn't uploaded the coaches film from yesterday's games yet.
Jonnydel, I was wondering if I could get your take on a couple of issues I noticed in yesterday's game against the Bucs: first of all, our D was dominant most of the game, but whenever the Bucs went to their hurry-up offense, suddenly we became much more vulnerable. Tampa was moving the ball almost at will on us on the 2 hurry-up drives that they had, which led to their 2 TDs. What are the reasons that our D seemed to be unable to counter their switch to the hurry-up offense? Is it as simple as not having the time to get the correct personnel on the field for our D, or is it something deeper? I think the 9ers should address this before the playoffs, or other teams may exploit this to their advantage.
Also, do you think that by having our DBs playing off so much from their WRs (I know one of our defensive philosophies is to always "keep everything in front of us"), our D is very susceptible to the quick hitches? On the 2 Tampa TD drives, I noticed that their WRs were using this route very successfully, picking more than 10 yards a pop almost every time.
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brodiebluebanaszak
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^ Yes that was very disconcerting. Any analysis refgarding why we were unable to get to QB for hurries/sacks during this period would be helpful too. I was having a flashback to December 2012 watching it on line.
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domesik
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Jonnydel. Like many others say here thank you very much for all your contributions in this thread. I have read this thread for 3 straight days and not only have I learned much more about the technical aspect of football but I now watch my beloved 49er games in a totally different manner. I literally try to watch the D Shifts and WR/CB battles (routes) much more closely due to reading this thread. (Not just eyes on the ball, did the Q hand off to RB, omg is a WR open, lol)...I just want to point out you CALLED the shot to Davis in the 2nd!!!! (You said mid 2nd quarter. I think it was at approx. the 1:30 mark). Wow. Please keep up these posts. You need to work for the Red and Gold. Serious!!
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domesik
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I always tell my friends about the zone but I have retold all to get on here and read this thread first. And thank me later. How is this not thread of the year, right??
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Sanfran_chrisco
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Jonnydel needs to break down games every week like how Marvin does. Except with the coaches film.
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thl408
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Once the coaches film is released, and jonnydel makes the post game TB thread, I'll try to focus on the passing game and get a sense for how the 49ers wanted to attack the TB secondary. I'll post the same mini screenshots of the WR routes and we can try to see for ourselves what kind of concepts were utilized by HaRo. TB had the most defensive INTs coming into this game. Thanks, Eli, for allowing SEA to leapfrog TB into #1 in this category.
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jonnydel
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I'll answer all your questions/comments Ace, Brodie, Domesik and Defender. The coaches film is still yet to be available online, I'm waiting with giddy anticipation to answer all those questions. After I get the film and get through the whole game I'll start a new thread and first post some overview analysis followed by detailed breakdowns of individual plays like I did before. I try and wait to do individual plays until I get a feel for what we were trying to accomplish game-wide. After that, I look to pull the best examples of why something did or didn't work.
Thanks Domesik, honestly, I saw on film how they could exploit that after they had set it up, I was kinda surprised myself when it was as spot on as I thought! haha.
From what I saw during the game, a lot of it played out pretty similarly to what I thought it would. I'll have a better answer after I watch the film, but, I think the only surprise for me was the TD to Jackson. From what I could see during the broadcast that looked like a play that Tampa hadn't shown on film in at least the last 4 games. I think they pulled that play from the Super Bowl when Boldin got his TD, which Baltimore pulled that play from GB. If so, we've really got to shore up against that play..... But, like I said, that's only conjecture from the broadcast I'll have more hopefully later on today.
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I like some of Peter King's writing but it only takes one thing and I go "what a f**king tard." Like his MMQB column today with his weekly power ranking 'The Fine Fifteen.' He's been sucking RW's c**k entirely way too long because he ranks Seadderal #1 which I'm fine with. However, he ranked Niners 2nd with a huge "but." He implies there isn't a close second to the Seacawks by inserting the phrase "massive line of demarcation" between 1st and 2nd as if there's only one great team right now, and parity applies to everyone else. IDK it just pissed me off. I think he's mainly trying to gloat because he picked them preseason to make the SB and thinks they have a stroll in the park back to MetLife stadium with their near clinching of HF advantage.
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Ninerjok, I don't know where it came from, but while following and posting here since 6-7 yrs ago,I never recall reading how much our team is similar to SEA. Thanks for the enlightenment....I checked back a few more games and it is amazing. Thanks amigo.
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NCommand
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Looking forward to it you two: thl408 & jonnydel
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Originally posted by jonnydel:
I'll answer all your questions/comments Ace, Brodie, Domesik and Defender. The coaches film is still yet to be available online, I'm waiting with giddy anticipation to answer all those questions. After I get the film and get through the whole game I'll start a new thread and first post some overview analysis followed by detailed breakdowns of individual plays like I did before. I try and wait to do individual plays until I get a feel for what we were trying to accomplish game-wide. After that, I look to pull the best examples of why something did or didn't work.
Thanks Domesik, honestly, I saw on film how they could exploit that after they had set it up, I was kinda surprised myself when it was as spot on as I thought! haha.
From what I saw during the game, a lot of it played out pretty similarly to what I thought it would. I'll have a better answer after I watch the film, but, I think the only surprise for me was the TD to Jackson. From what I could see during the broadcast that looked like a play that Tampa hadn't shown on film in at least the last 4 games. I think they pulled that play from the Super Bowl when Boldin got his TD, which Baltimore pulled that play from GB. If so, we've really got to shore up against that play..... But, like I said, that's only conjecture from the broadcast I'll have more hopefully later on today.
Would like to your take on how T Brown played in his first game back from injury?
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jonnydel
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The NFL still hasn't uploaded the coaches film, I can only watch the condensed or broadcast versions right now...it sucks. I'm chomping at the bit to get going on that stuff!
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LBSI9ers
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Balance will beat Seattle. The refs calling holding by Sherman will beat Seattle.
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Puckdaddy
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Originally posted by jonnydel:
Here the niners used play action to suck the linebackers up, the Seachickens were in man cover-1, meaning they were playing man coverage with a single high safety over the top. When Kap turns around he looks toward Crabtree who is running a shallow comeback with Boldin running a Hitch from the slot. Cam Chancellor is playing with outside leverage on Davis. When Kap turns around He see's the man coverage on Crabtree.
Kaep keeps looking Crabs way, looking for him to uncover, Thomas-the high safety, jumps on the inside of Boldin with #40 playing man on the outside of Boldin, essentially double teaming Anquan. Sherman had a flat foot cover on Crabs - meaning he didn't backpeddle much on Crabtree looking to jump the comback.
Kaep has room to step up in the pocket(highlighted with the O) the line did a great job. When he saw the man coverage read he should've automatically moved to Vernon knowing Vernon was running a Deep In(or DIG) route with the safety playing outside. You can see the seperation Vernon gets on Chancellor.
Finally, you see Kaep didn't step up into the pocket, instead, he scrambles out right and throws to Crabs(who did make a spectacular 4 yd catch) It was the play that looked like Crabs may have not gotten his 2nd foot in bounds but Seattle never challenged.) As you can see Vernon is wide open if Kaep moves through his progression and recognizes the outside leverage pre-snap. It was a 4 yd gain but could've been a 12-plus yd gain.
Kaepernick was later intercepted on this drive(which I will show next), He missed a couple plays like this in the game. Could've been a bigger win for us. But still a good win nonetheless and Kaep did play a pretty good game.
Beautiful analysis and breakdown!! Yet Kaep would argue with the world about "not knowing his reads".