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Originally posted by mojave45:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by mojave45:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by mojave45:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by mojave45:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by walker807:
what cracks me up is that its always the same group of guys that will look completely foolish just to try and post negative garbage about Baalke. The same guys who want Foster, who is done IMO due to injuries, blasted the Bush signing because of ........ injuries. I hope they continue the negative overreactions to camp bodies being signed, its great posting material

I'm guessing your middle and last name is, Texas...Ranger...b/c you "get it" like Chuck Norris.

How Trent handled the RB situation made zero sense. He didn't resign Gore why? Cause he's older and wanted to save money, bottom line. He thought he could replace Gore's production with Hyde. Of course you can't predict injuries but there was no guarantee that Hyde could handle a full 16 games as the #1 back either.

Should have just spent a few millions more to keep Gore and had both of them split carries.
Hyde/Gore >>>> Hyde, Bush, and the 12 other guys they ended up using.

Of course some will just say that Gore was old and not worth it. We have Hayne so we good LOL. That's not foolish or anything.

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All of that is complete horsepucky. And has zero to do with signing a camp body. Gore wasn't splitting carries. PERIOD. We couldn't have forecast what happened to Hyde. G

So you disagree that the combo of Hyde and Gore would not have been as good as Hyde and Bush?

How do you know?
In 2014 Gore had 250+ Carries, Kap just over 100 and Hyde had around 80.

I know you can't predict injuries that's exactly what I said. The point is about what 2 players we could have had/keep vs the players they signed.

You can try to rewrite history all that you want, but 2014 was partly why Gore wanted to leave and be the featured back on a team. Make up what ever nonsense you want to but Gore wasn't staying if he could go somewhere and be the top dog featured back. Of course if magic happened Gore might have been better than Bush. Or he might have had a similar accident happen as long as we are playing fairy tales. And even if Gore was here magically, with the line we had, the piss poor play out of Kaepernick in the early going, and certainly on slightly better play from Gabbert, the opposing defenses were stuffing runners fairly easily. It would have changed things only slightly in the scheme of the dumpster fire season. But again, we had zero realistic chance to keep Gore. You can ignore reality if you wish and start down the fictious road that we could have paid him more, ignoring the cap situation prior to the mass retirements, but it isn't believable.

Interesting. Not sure where you get your facts from but Gore told ESPN in an interview that he just wanted Trent to talk to him about a possible return to the team and to be able to compete for the starting job with Hyde.

Trent never talked to Gore about a return. So he signed elsewhere. That's not Frank Gore's fault the 49ers didn't want him anymore.

Gore went to a team that lost their starting QB and had OL problems all year. He also had better production than all 9 of the RB we used.

I'm not rewriting anything. I just know that Frank Gore is a better player than 8 of the guys we used to try and replace his production on the field.
Horse crap that Trent never talked to Gore. He went elsewhere for more money and playing time. You can cite imaginary scenarios all you want. And no one, including me ever said Gore wasn't better than winkin, blinkin, and nod that we picked up off the street. Amazing how easy it Is to tell who will get injured after the season is played. Brilliant analysis, if only you were the GM making last year's decisions now, we would be a much better team.

k

http://www.49erswebzone.com/commentary/1501-sounds-trent-baalke-gave-frank-gore-cold-shoulder/

LMFAO....THIS? This is your proof?????

This was all talked about last year. Not surprised you don't know about it.
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Bet you wouldn't say that to Frank Gores face. I love how the "49er fans" like to talk s**t about the all time leading rusher for the team.

just like some of your friends in the club house like chaz who says staley is a p***y or those who claim our team is made up of garbage. i guess that is different. if talking s**t about gore is saying he should have accepted our one year offer of four million per year and it is to bad he was so miserable last year... sobeit

Well all of the RBs on the roster don't = $4m so Trent got what he wanted.
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by mojave45:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by mojave45:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by mojave45:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by mojave45:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by walker807:
what cracks me up is that its always the same group of guys that will look completely foolish just to try and post negative garbage about Baalke. The same guys who want Foster, who is done IMO due to injuries, blasted the Bush signing because of ........ injuries. I hope they continue the negative overreactions to camp bodies being signed, its great posting material

I'm guessing your middle and last name is, Texas...Ranger...b/c you "get it" like Chuck Norris.

How Trent handled the RB situation made zero sense. He didn't resign Gore why? Cause he's older and wanted to save money, bottom line. He thought he could replace Gore's production with Hyde. Of course you can't predict injuries but there was no guarantee that Hyde could handle a full 16 games as the #1 back either.

Should have just spent a few millions more to keep Gore and had both of them split carries.
Hyde/Gore >>>> Hyde, Bush, and the 12 other guys they ended up using.

Of course some will just say that Gore was old and not worth it. We have Hayne so we good LOL. That's not foolish or anything.

Laugh
Out
Loud

ell
oh
ell

All of that is complete horsepucky. And has zero to do with signing a camp body. Gore wasn't splitting carries. PERIOD. We couldn't have forecast what happened to Hyde. G

So you disagree that the combo of Hyde and Gore would not have been as good as Hyde and Bush?

How do you know?
In 2014 Gore had 250+ Carries, Kap just over 100 and Hyde had around 80.

I know you can't predict injuries that's exactly what I said. The point is about what 2 players we could have had/keep vs the players they signed.

You can try to rewrite history all that you want, but 2014 was partly why Gore wanted to leave and be the featured back on a team. Make up what ever nonsense you want to but Gore wasn't staying if he could go somewhere and be the top dog featured back. Of course if magic happened Gore might have been better than Bush. Or he might have had a similar accident happen as long as we are playing fairy tales. And even if Gore was here magically, with the line we had, the piss poor play out of Kaepernick in the early going, and certainly on slightly better play from Gabbert, the opposing defenses were stuffing runners fairly easily. It would have changed things only slightly in the scheme of the dumpster fire season. But again, we had zero realistic chance to keep Gore. You can ignore reality if you wish and start down the fictious road that we could have paid him more, ignoring the cap situation prior to the mass retirements, but it isn't believable.

Interesting. Not sure where you get your facts from but Gore told ESPN in an interview that he just wanted Trent to talk to him about a possible return to the team and to be able to compete for the starting job with Hyde.

Trent never talked to Gore about a return. So he signed elsewhere. That's not Frank Gore's fault the 49ers didn't want him anymore.

Gore went to a team that lost their starting QB and had OL problems all year. He also had better production than all 9 of the RB we used.

I'm not rewriting anything. I just know that Frank Gore is a better player than 8 of the guys we used to try and replace his production on the field.
Horse crap that Trent never talked to Gore. He went elsewhere for more money and playing time. You can cite imaginary scenarios all you want. And no one, including me ever said Gore wasn't better than winkin, blinkin, and nod that we picked up off the street. Amazing how easy it Is to tell who will get injured after the season is played. Brilliant analysis, if only you were the GM making last year's decisions now, we would be a much better team.

k

http://www.49erswebzone.com/commentary/1501-sounds-trent-baalke-gave-frank-gore-cold-shoulder/

LMFAO....THIS? This is your proof?????

This was all talked about last year. Not surprised you don't know about it.
The article us full of innuendo and outright speculation. I read it again today and gave it the same consideration I did the first time. It proves nothing. Zero. Zip. No hard facts just some bozo quoted from Indianapolis, and tge author outright states the conclusion is his speculation. Good grief. Just freaking making crap up, then posting it it to get clicks us what this was. The article has ZERO proof.
Originally posted by SoCold:
This was all talked about last year. Not surprised you don't know about it.

You think gore would have stayed in SF in a backup role for less money after getting offers for more??

He has his lowest ypc in his career last season with a better offense around him then SF had...love Gore (one of my all-time favorites) but his play went down considerably last season. We got like 10 solid yrs out of him which is wild for a RB it was time to move on.
Originally posted by mojave45:
The article us full of innuendo and outright speculation. I read it again today and gave it the same consideration I did the first time. It proves nothing. Zero. Zip. No hard facts just some bozo quoted from Indianapolis, and tge author outright states the conclusion is his speculation. Good grief. Just freaking making crap up, then posting it it to get clicks us what this was. The article has ZERO proof.

lol the quotes are from Gore's interview.

He also did an espn interview around the same time said the same type of things.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by SoCold:
This was all talked about last year. Not surprised you don't know about it.

You think gore would have stayed in SF in a backup role for less money after getting offers for more??

He has his lowest ypc in his career last season with a better offense around him then SF had...love Gore (one of my all-time favorites) but his play went down considerably last season. We got like 10 solid yrs out of him which is wild for a RB it was time to move on.

No I don't. All he wanted was to talk to Trent before they offered him a contract and Trent didn't talk to him.
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by mojave45:
The article us full of innuendo and outright speculation. I read it again today and gave it the same consideration I did the first time. It proves nothing. Zero. Zip. No hard facts just some bozo quoted from Indianapolis, and tge author outright states the conclusion is his speculation. Good grief. Just freaking making crap up, then posting it it to get clicks us what this was. The article has ZERO proof.

lol the quotes are from Gore's interview.

He also did an espn interview around the same time said the same type of things.

Quit twisting it, it starts with the Gore interview, the rest is opinion.
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by SoCold:
This was all talked about last year. Not surprised you don't know about it.

You think gore would have stayed in SF in a backup role for less money after getting offers for more??

He has his lowest ypc in his career last season with a better offense around him then SF had...love Gore (one of my all-time favorites) but his play went down considerably last season. We got like 10 solid yrs out of him which is wild for a RB it was time to move on.

No I don't. All he wanted was to talk to Trent before they offered him a contract and Trent didn't talk to him.

Nonsense. Who do you think offered it to him?
Originally posted by mojave45:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by SoCold:
This was all talked about last year. Not surprised you don't know about it.

You think gore would have stayed in SF in a backup role for less money after getting offers for more??

He has his lowest ypc in his career last season with a better offense around him then SF had...love Gore (one of my all-time favorites) but his play went down considerably last season. We got like 10 solid yrs out of him which is wild for a RB it was time to move on.

No I don't. All he wanted was to talk to Trent before they offered him a contract and Trent didn't talk to him.

Nonsense. Who do you think offered it to him?

Paraag, he's in charge of all the contracts.
Originally posted by mojave45:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by mojave45:
The article us full of innuendo and outright speculation. I read it again today and gave it the same consideration I did the first time. It proves nothing. Zero. Zip. No hard facts just some bozo quoted from Indianapolis, and tge author outright states the conclusion is his speculation. Good grief. Just freaking making crap up, then posting it it to get clicks us what this was. The article has ZERO proof.

lol the quotes are from Gore's interview.

He also did an espn interview around the same time said the same type of things.

Quit twisting it, it starts with the Gore interview, the rest is opinion.

All I wanted you to see is the Gore quotes where is says Trent didn't talk to him.

Why did you say it was horse crap?
Originally posted by SoCold:
No I don't. All he wanted was to talk to Trent before they offered him a contract and Trent didn't talk to him.

So what's the point in talking? He knew what his role was gonna be here...

He (his agent) could have talk to Trent thought out the season as well we have no real idea.

Gore signed a $28 million dollar deal in 2007 and a $25 million dollar deal in 2011 and SF never asked him to take a cut or anything, I'd say they paid him very well. It was a good relationship and he wanted to move on for one last chance at a ring and play with his old college buddy AJ.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Jun 23, 2016 at 10:19 AM ]
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Originally posted by SoCold:
Well all of the RBs on the roster don't = $4m so Trent got what he wanted.

i do not care who they are, what they have done in the past and what they may do in the future. it is just not good business to give a older running back multi years. it is nice he had a nice year, though he said it was the most miserable year of his life,, but for every frank gore success story there are multiple examples of where it did not work and they lost it over night... tony dorsett. franco harris,. chuck foreman. roger craig, shaun alexander. if you remove the emotional blather from the equation... it is not good business
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Well all of the RBs on the roster don't = $4m so Trent got what he wanted.

i do not care who they are, what they have done in the past and what they may do in the future. it is just not good business to give a older running back multi years. it is nice he had a nice year, though he said it was the most miserable year of his life,, but for every frank gore success story there are multiple examples of where it did not work and they lost it over night... tony dorsett. franco harris,. chuck foreman. roger craig, shaun alexander. if you remove the emotional blather from the equation... it is not good business

but keeping the most amount of cap space of any team and not spending it while the roster looks like garbage is good business, k, got it.

thank you
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by SoCold:
No I don't. All he wanted was to talk to Trent before they offered him a contract and Trent didn't talk to him.

So what's the point in talking? He knew what his role was gonna be here...

He (his agent) could have talk to Trent thought out the season as well we have no real idea.

Gore signed a $28 million dollar deal in 2007 and a $25 million dollar deal in 2011 and SF never asked him to take a cut or anything, I'd say they paid him very well. It was a good relationship and he wanted to move on for one last chance at a ring and play with his old college buddy AJ.

Gore told you what the point was in his quotes.

his agent said they got one offer from the team and did not counter after other teams offered contacts
Why would Gore lie about talking to Trent to the media?

Agree, should have given him more money instead of Bush and the other 7 guys they signed off the street, imo.
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Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Well all of the RBs on the roster don't = $4m so Trent got what he wanted.

i do not care who they are, what they have done in the past and what they may do in the future. it is just not good business to give a older running back multi years. it is nice he had a nice year, though he said it was the most miserable year of his life,, but for every frank gore success story there are multiple examples of where it did not work and they lost it over night... tony dorsett. franco harris,. chuck foreman. roger craig, shaun alexander. if you remove the emotional blather from the equation... it is not good business

but keeping the most amount of cap space of any team and not spending it while the roster looks like garbage is good business, k, got it.

thank you
to you it looks like garbage and that is nice for you. to other fans and to the coaches. they are excited and think it has great potential. oh and to spend money just because you can and to spend it on people who are not worth it is also bad business
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