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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Jcool:
I am hoping Rick Dennison would come be the OC. But Baltimore will probably make him there OC.
They could try but he's been Kubiak's guy for awhile, if he refuses to do the job, just like Fangio,its not like they could force him.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Jd925:
I like Shanny and Kubiak a lot, but I'm still in favor of going back to Holmgren.. he's more part of the tree trunk of Bill Walsh roots....
Holmgren is about to turn 67, has been out of football for awhile. A lot of the assistants he depended on throughout the years are out of football now or have one foot out the door. As good of a coach as he was, at this point I think its better to find a more long term solution.
Originally posted by znk916:
Originally posted by trooper49:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Can someone explain to me what Mike Shanahan has accomplished without a hall of fame qb in John Elway and Steve young?
He ruined RG3's knee.
Originally posted by Jd925:
I think age is certainly a factor and mental faculties will diminish over time, but despite that I think the fire still burns in Holmgren... and as long as that's true I'm not as much concerned with age:
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/07/16/mike-holmgren-retirement/
Wisdom comes with age...and I think he's got a reservoir of wisdom and knowledge to pass along to the 49er organization. If you are looking for a long term solution, there's nothing better than to have someone impart vast knowledge to your organization...knowledge that can help for decades. To consider the passing of knowledge is truly long term thinking.
Jim Harbaugh was our sugar high... he had almost enough in him to win us a Superbowl... but it would have been nothing sustainable and we were already on the downward trend... Harbaugh's coaching tree would be made of Roman.. Chryst... Morton...would that be a foundation to build a dynasty?
As far as winning now, I think Holmgren is equally important for that. He's helped Montana, Young, Favre become great and a 6th round pick Hasslebeck become a 3-time pro-bowler. Our greatest hope is to get Kap to reach his potential. There is no other better QB mentor than Holmgren. Our offense just needs a major lift.. Harbaugh imparted his warrior spirit and that should remain with the players.... the wisdom, strategy and philosophy that Holmgren brings is the missing capstone necessary for the 49ers to become a complete team....
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Can someone explain to me what Mike Shanahan has accomplished without a hall of fame qb in John Elway and Steve young?
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Can someone explain to me what Mike Shanahan has accomplished without a hall of fame qb in John Elway and Steve young?
Same thing Walsh accomplished without a hall of fame qb
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I see your Hasselbeck and raise it, Kubiak took Matt Schaub and helped him become a pretty damn good NFL quarterback for awhile.
This guy was a Pro-Bowl QB under Kubiak.
Originally posted by baltien:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Jeez againGase puts the schemes together he is the one that makes the offensive game plan not Manning. Do you think it's Manning or Gase in the coaches meetings during the week? Gase calls the plays (usually 2 or 3) and also gives Manning tons of time to make a correct audible based off those plays.
Manning doesn't have is "laser rocket arm" anymore so Gase as made adjustments and created a running game as well....if you honestly think Manning does everything then why pay for a OC? Why has every team in need for a HC the past two years asked to interview him? This Manning does everything crap has to stop because even Manning has stated Gase is the person behind the offense...
Denver runs virtually the same offense the Colts did when Manning was there. That is not a coincidence. I think that while Gase is very smart guy I recognize that he comes with a fair bit of uncertainty.
I won't say that he will fail without Manning but at the same time questioning his ability to win games without his HOF QB is a legitimate concern. Guys like Brady and Manning can make any coach look good.
And Manning's support for him is hardly surprising because what else is he going to say? That he sucks and he should be fired?
Rarely does a guy throw their current coach under the bus even if it's warranted.
Originally posted by Jd925:Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Originally posted by Jd925:I like Shanny and Kubiak a lot, but I'm still in favor of going back to Holmgren.. he's more part of the tree trunk of Bill Walsh roots....
Holmgren is about to turn 67, has been out of football for awhile. A lot of the assistants he depended on throughout the years are out of football now or have one foot out the door. As good of a coach as he was, at this point I think its better to find a more long term solution.
I think age is certainly a factor and mental faculties will diminish over time, but despite that I think the fire still burns in Holmgren... and as long as that's true I'm not as much concerned with age:
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/07/16/mike-holmgren-retirement/
Wisdom comes with age...and I think he's got a reservoir of wisdom and knowledge to pass along to the 49er organization. If you are looking for a long term solution, there's nothing better than to have someone impart vast knowledge to your organization...knowledge that can help for decades. To consider the passing of knowledge is truly long term thinking.
Jim Harbaugh was our sugar high... he had almost enough in him to win us a Superbowl... but it would have been nothing sustainable and we were already on the downward trend... Harbaugh's coaching tree would be made of Roman.. Chryst... Morton...would that be a foundation to build a dynasty?
As far as winning now, I think Holmgren is equally important for that. He's helped Montana, Young, Favre become great and a 6th round pick Hasslebeck become a 3-time pro-bowler. Our greatest hope is to get Kap to reach his potential. There is no other better QB mentor than Holmgren. Our offense just needs a major lift.. Harbaugh imparted his warrior spirit and that should remain with the players.... the wisdom, strategy and philosophy that Holmgren brings is the missing capstone necessary for the 49ers to become a complete team....
Originally posted by pd24:Originally posted by JoseCortez:Can someone explain to me what Mike Shanahan has accomplished without a hall of fame qb in John Elway and Steve young?
Same thing Walsh accomplished without a hall of fame qb
Originally posted by Harbaalke:Originally posted by pd24:Originally posted by JoseCortez:Can someone explain to me what Mike Shanahan has accomplished without a hall of fame qb in John Elway and Steve young?
Same thing Walsh accomplished without a hall of fame qb
Walsh and Shanny would of never had Jose Cortez on this team you bum
