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Tonight just re-enforced my belief that Gary Kubiak should be the man for this job. His playcalling tonight was on point. Clear, consistent, and in rhythm play-calling. Just picturing Kap running all those bootlegs off the zone running game. Defenses know it's coming, but it's difficult to stop. Perfect against defenses with great pass rushes. You have to move the pocket, and Kubiak is a master at it. Flacco was on an island at times, getting all day to throw off those play-action fakes. Kap has the added dimension of being able to run and pick up monster yardage.

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Tonight just re-enforced my belief that Gary Kubiak should be the man for this job. His playcalling tonight was on point. Clear, consistent, and in rhythm play-calling. Just picturing Kap running all those bootlegs off the zone running game. Defenses know it's coming, but it's difficult to stop. Perfect against defenses with great pass rushes. You have to move the pocket, and Kubiak is a master at it. Flacco was on an island at times, getting all day to throw off those play-action fakes. Kap has the added dimension of being able to run and pick up monster yardage.

Yet in Houston his QB's did nothing but flounder and eventually drown.

We need a guy who can push Kap forward. I dont think Kubiak is that guy. Hes a power running expert, and we already do that well.

I want Kubiak. Jed, for the second time in your life, do the right thing. Hire this man.

Originally posted by cools:

Fang isnt going anywhere, Tomsula isnt going anywhere, most of the other coaches are not going anywhere

If the plan was to bring in an outside HC, and cause the incumbent coaches to be in limbo, they would be all over the country interviewing for jobs

Even if under contract, I believe Baalke would allow these guys to look into finding future employment

Many signs point to a hire from within.

I dont see why we would hire from within. I think Fangio and Tomsula are both back regardless. Clearly we need an offensive mind to help get our offense going. The issue was Roman, and they were willing to fire Harbaugh to get him out. They arent going to promote a guy who cant help Kap and the offense.

If we dont hire an offensive HC were retarded. Our problems have been poor red zone offense and poor clock management. The whole point of firing Harbaugh and Roman was to revamp the offensive side of the ball.

We would have to promote someones QB coach to be our OC under Fangio...

All signs point to Gase or McDaniels IMO. Not saying thats the right call, but it aligns with what theyre trying to do.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by SofaKing:
Tonight just re-enforced my belief that Gary Kubiak should be the man for this job. His playcalling tonight was on point. Clear, consistent, and in rhythm play-calling. Just picturing Kap running all those bootlegs off the zone running game. Defenses know it's coming, but it's difficult to stop. Perfect against defenses with great pass rushes. You have to move the pocket, and Kubiak is a master at it. Flacco was on an island at times, getting all day to throw off those play-action fakes. Kap has the added dimension of being able to run and pick up monster yardage.

Yet in Houston his QB's did nothing but flounder and eventually drown.

We need a guy who can push Kap forward. I dont think Kubiak is that guy. Hes a power running expert, and we already do that well.

Don't agree. He had many years in Houston where the QB's performed well and the offense was consistently ranked in the top half of the league, and many years in the Top 10. He had Matt Schaub playing very well, but the player fell apart, not the coach. All you need to do is look at what Kubiak is doing right now, and what Schaub is doing. Not hard to pinpoint what went wrong in Houston last year.

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Tonight just re-enforced my belief that Gary Kubiak should be the man for this job. His playcalling tonight was on point. Clear, consistent, and in rhythm play-calling. Just picturing Kap running all those bootlegs off the zone running game. Defenses know it's coming, but it's difficult to stop. Perfect against defenses with great pass rushes. You have to move the pocket, and Kubiak is a master at it. Flacco was on an island at times, getting all day to throw off those play-action fakes. Kap has the added dimension of being able to run and pick up monster yardage.

Yet in Houston his QB's did nothing but flounder and eventually drown.

We need a guy who can push Kap forward. I dont think Kubiak is that guy. Hes a power running expert, and we already do that well.

Don't agree. He had many years in Houston where the QB's performed well and the offense was consistently ranked in the top half of the league, and many years in the Top 10. He had Matt Schaub playing very well, but the player fell apart, not the coach. All you need to do is look at what Kubiak is doing right now, and what Schaub is doing. Not hard to pinpoint what went wrong in Houston last year.

Kubiak had his shot at coaching, and he developed a reputation for not being able to make the playoffs, and when he did near the end of his tenure, his teams choked immediately, even at home.

Look at his win totals in HOU. 59 wins in 7 seasons with 0 playoff victories. Thats averaging 8 wins a year for 7 years and never being able to get out of the first round.

Hes a mediocre HC, which is why hes an OC now.

If he wants to come be our OC, id love to have him, but hes just not a championship caliber HC.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by SofaKing:
Tonight just re-enforced my belief that Gary Kubiak should be the man for this job. His playcalling tonight was on point. Clear, consistent, and in rhythm play-calling. Just picturing Kap running all those bootlegs off the zone running game. Defenses know it's coming, but it's difficult to stop. Perfect against defenses with great pass rushes. You have to move the pocket, and Kubiak is a master at it. Flacco was on an island at times, getting all day to throw off those play-action fakes. Kap has the added dimension of being able to run and pick up monster yardage.

Yet in Houston his QB's did nothing but flounder and eventually drown.

We need a guy who can push Kap forward. I dont think Kubiak is that guy. Hes a power running expert, and we already do that well.

Don't agree. He had many years in Houston where the QB's performed well and the offense was consistently ranked in the top half of the league, and many years in the Top 10. He had Matt Schaub playing very well, but the player fell apart, not the coach. All you need to do is look at what Kubiak is doing right now, and what Schaub is doing. Not hard to pinpoint what went wrong in Houston last year.

Kubiak had his shot at coaching, and he developed a reputation for not being able to make the playoffs, and when he did near the end of his tenure, his teams choked immediately, even at home.

Look at his win totals in HOU. 59 wins in 7 seasons with 0 playoff victories. Thats averaging 8 wins a year for 7 years and never being able to get out of the first round.

Hes a mediocre HC, which is why hes an OC now.

If he wants to come be our OC, id love to have him, but hes just not a championship caliber HC.

I agree with him being an OC but I'm sure Harbaugh told him to run the other direction tonight!

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by SofaKing:
Tonight just re-enforced my belief that Gary Kubiak should be the man for this job. His playcalling tonight was on point. Clear, consistent, and in rhythm play-calling. Just picturing Kap running all those bootlegs off the zone running game. Defenses know it's coming, but it's difficult to stop. Perfect against defenses with great pass rushes. You have to move the pocket, and Kubiak is a master at it. Flacco was on an island at times, getting all day to throw off those play-action fakes. Kap has the added dimension of being able to run and pick up monster yardage.

Yet in Houston his QB's did nothing but flounder and eventually drown.

We need a guy who can push Kap forward. I dont think Kubiak is that guy. Hes a power running expert, and we already do that well.

Don't agree. He had many years in Houston where the QB's performed well and the offense was consistently ranked in the top half of the league, and many years in the Top 10. He had Matt Schaub playing very well, but the player fell apart, not the coach. All you need to do is look at what Kubiak is doing right now, and what Schaub is doing. Not hard to pinpoint what went wrong in Houston last year.

Kubiak had his shot at coaching, and he developed a reputation for not being able to make the playoffs, and when he did near the end of his tenure, his teams choked immediately, even at home.

Look at his win totals in HOU. 59 wins in 7 seasons with 0 playoff victories. Thats averaging 8 wins a year for 7 years and never being able to get out of the first round.

Hes a mediocre HC, which is why hes an OC now.

If he wants to come be our OC, id love to have him, but hes just not a championship caliber HC.

We already have a championship caliber defense so Kubiak would just have to tweak the offense to get us back over the hump. The year he lost to Baltimore, he had T.J. Yates replacing Shaub. He's doing an excellent job with Flacco right now, would like to see what he could do with Kap.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Tonight just re-enforced my belief that Gary Kubiak should be the man for this job. His playcalling tonight was on point. Clear, consistent, and in rhythm play-calling. Just picturing Kap running all those bootlegs off the zone running game. Defenses know it's coming, but it's difficult to stop. Perfect against defenses with great pass rushes. You have to move the pocket, and Kubiak is a master at it. Flacco was on an island at times, getting all day to throw off those play-action fakes. Kap has the added dimension of being able to run and pick up monster yardage.

Yet in Houston his QB's did nothing but flounder and eventually drown.

We need a guy who can push Kap forward. I dont think Kubiak is that guy. Hes a power running expert, and we already do that well.

Don't agree. He had many years in Houston where the QB's performed well and the offense was consistently ranked in the top half of the league, and many years in the Top 10. He had Matt Schaub playing very well, but the player fell apart, not the coach. All you need to do is look at what Kubiak is doing right now, and what Schaub is doing. Not hard to pinpoint what went wrong in Houston last year.

Kubiak had his shot at coaching, and he developed a reputation for not being able to make the playoffs, and when he did near the end of his tenure, his teams choked immediately, even at home.

Look at his win totals in HOU. 59 wins in 7 seasons with 0 playoff victories. Thats averaging 8 wins a year for 7 years and never being able to get out of the first round.

Hes a mediocre HC, which is why hes an OC now.

If he wants to come be our OC, id love to have him, but hes just not a championship caliber HC.

We already have a championship caliber defense so Kubiak would just have to tweak the offense to get us back over the hump. The year he lost to Baltimore, he had T.J. Yates replacing Shaub. He's doing an excellent job with Flacco right now, would like to see what he could do with Kap.

Id much rather see what Adam Gase could do with Kap and the offense. Kubiak is a retread. Jed and Trent made it pretty clear that they want to build a longterm winner, and I just dont see Kubiak being that longterm guy.

What about Kubiak learning from John Harbaugh!? Right now John Harbaugh has the same post season record as Bill Walsh! Not including two more Super Bowls but that is an amazing statistic! I'm sure Kubiak has picked up things from John Harbaugh. Not only does he have experience but he also has worked under and learned from great coaches. He deserves a second chance and we need to give it to him. Bring him back to SF!

Originally posted by Niners99:

Kubiak had his shot at coaching, and he developed a reputation for not being able to make the playoffs, and when he did near the end of his tenure, his teams choked immediately, even at home.

Look at his win totals in HOU. 59 wins in 7 seasons with 0 playoff victories. Thats averaging 8 wins a year for 7 years and never being able to get out of the first round.

Hes a mediocre HC, which is why hes an OC now.

If he wants to come be our OC, id love to have him, but hes just not a championship caliber HC.

Fair point about his record in Houston but judging by his play-calling tonight it's entirely possible that he's learned his lesson. I think we all saw a pretty aggressive game called, even when the Ravens were up by more than one score. No disrespect to Harbaugh, but he would've immediately gone back to playing ball control the moment he had a three-point lead.

Two, Kubiak can say that he got Matt Schaub (among other QB's) to play at a high level. I don't think anyone would argue otherwise. Gase, on the other hand, wouldn't even be in the discussion right now if it wasn't for Peyton Manning.

In terms of resume, at this point at least, there is simply no comparison between the two.

My prediction is still Tomsula, I would be cool with Fangio, but I would prefer Shanahan. The arguments against him here seem to be centred around his handling of RGIII after the latter's first season. I will not retort by saying that Washington is a dysfunctional organisation, because this year proved that we are also as dysfunctional as they come. It's just that we have a different sort of dysfunction.

Shanahan handled RGIII beautifully in his first year and brought a lot of success in an otherwise talent poor team. They also ran the ball beautifully that year in general, which is the traditional Shanahan way and would fit our team makeup (hopefully with Frank in some role, but I can't see that happening). The problems started after RGIII's injury and particularly when it became obvious that he had a direct line to the owner over the coach's head. Having experienced that in a corporate setting I can tell you that nothing damages the performance of a manager as much as when one of his employees can go over his head to the big boss. It destroys his credibility and leads to political sniping rather than focusing on the business. We haven't got a situation like this here, even though Kaep was Baalke's pick, particularly after Kaep clearly regressed last year with no injury excuses like RGIII. If he did get into a war with Shanahan as coach I can't see him get the GM or the owner on his side. Moreover, Washington was massively invested in RGIII through that idiotic trade with the Lambs. Injured or not, regressing or not, RGIII was undroppable for a long time because of that.Kaep is nowhere near like that, and his contract is very team friendly anyway. I can see him giving the new coach every chance, even if he doesn't get along with him, just in order to get his contract to tick along nicely and also to restore his rather battered reputation from this year.

There can be many arguments pro or against a Shanahan hire, but the RGIII thing can't really be an argument.

All these "I want Kubiak" posts are kind of funny. I lived in Houston for 5 years of Kubiak's tenure and he definitely is not a winner; a good OC, but not HC. Kubiak as HC would be a nightmare.

Today is Rex Ryans Day pitch it Rex

Originally posted by ziggy_gonna_rock:
Why not bring Ault as a QB coach ? OC may be too much for a 70 year old but Kaep would probably benefit.
Hes a consultant at KC so really any position would be deemed a promotion which teams can not deny.

That would make a ton of sense so obviously we won't do it.