The 49ers 2015 Coaching Search Thread(All Rumors and News Here)

I do not believe the question will be about whether he can get a competent offense installed here, and help Kap. Re member, it is more than the Manning doubts (that Manning is the real OC). He won with Tebow after all. He was able to adjust to strengths.


The real question is can someone as young as he is command an entire team, some of whom are as old as he is. If he tries the "Who's got it better than us" in a squeaky, pre-pubescent voice ... that will not cut it

Originally posted by Geeked:

Originally posted by jimmythegreekjr:
I have to hand it to Denver though...They started with hot passing attack, but implemented great rushing as the season progressed. I wonder why the change.

Manning has a definite ceiling on his "pitch count". If they literally throw him out, his range will drop to ten yards. Plus, you have to be able to run the ball. You're not going to make it throwing every down, period. Look what happened to the 49ers with predictable playcalling. That will happen to everyone if they don't at least try to be proficient in all sides of the ball.

The ability to adjust and adapt is THE biggest reason for my excitement for Gase. The past two years, Mannings could only throw ducks as the season carried on. I mean, this guy could hardly move. How do you design an offense around a guy who can't throw deep and is completely immobile in the pocket? How about around a guy like Tebow? Talk about polar opposites! I think Gase took Manning as far as he could go this year and the finla 6 games, he switched from a Manning-only offense to a running game, from 80 yards a game to averaging 131. And you know what happened? They actually averaged more points per game while running it more. That should make fans here very happy.

Originally posted by smithgdwg:
Just like the Harbaugh stuff that turned out to be 100% true.

Yeah, forget the two dozen plus examples of speculation having been completely wrong over the past 2 weeks alone.

Originally posted by Geeked:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by jimmythegreekjr:

Originally posted by Joecool:
Other than not being a head coach before, can we list the pros and cons of this dude, Gase?

Pros:

• Super detailed oriented above and beyond mentality

Cons:

untested, no head coaching experience, unsure if can he command a locker room

Pros:

• Is said to work great with other minds and is flexible.
• Well respected once people see him work

Pros:

• Will stay on his side of the ball!!! That definitely works with this team!

Pros:

• Said to be one of the smartest offensive minds in football
• Managed to navigate between Elway and Fox with no negative results to his reputation
• Handled Manning's ego

Dennis Allen is a pretty good DC also

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by ads_2006:
for reals lol

people just trying to rationalize the moves by the FO

No, its just the "hire really old guys" crowd that is irate. There is a many here that wanted Gase all along. He has consistently been one of the most popular candidates.

Wrong. There is another crowd that is irate and it is the 'Fangio needs to stay" crowd. Hiring Gase most likely means he doesn't and that is disappointing to say the least

So the media guys jumped the gun or what?

Is he a Zone blocking guy?

Originally posted by Bluesbro:
I do not believe the question will be about whether he can get a competent offense installed here, and help Kap. Re member, it is more than the Manning doubts (that Manning is the real OC). He won with Tebow after all. He was able to adjust to strengths.


The real question is can someone as young as he is command an entire team, some of whom are as old as he is. If he tries the "Who's got it better than us" in a squeaky, pre-pubescent voice ... that will not cut it

He has 3 kids, pretty sure he's gone through puberty by now.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by Joecool:
Other than not being a head coach before, can we list the pros and cons of this dude, Gase?

Pros:

• Super detailed oriented above and beyond mentality

Background in all major offensive systems. Been around some great coaches and game plans adapt to players.

• Two years with Manning and he got Manning some of his best years in production. This also includes Manning's injured games.

If he can have a successful rushing attack with Moreno and Anderson, imagine what he can do with Gore and Hyde. And before anyone says it is a product of the passing attack, please use, Green Bay, NO, NE, SD, ATL and IND as exibits A-F.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by Geeked:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by jimmythegreekjr:

Originally posted by Joecool:
Other than not being a head coach before, can we list the pros and cons of this dude, Gase?

Pros:

• Super detailed oriented above and beyond mentality

Cons:

untested, no head coaching experience, unsure if can he command a locker room

Pros:

• Is said to work great with other minds and is flexible.
• Well respected once people see him work

Pros:

• Will stay on his side of the ball!!! That definitely works with this team!

Pros:

• Said to be one of the smartest offensive minds in football
• Managed to navigate between Elway and Fox with no negative results to his reputation
• Handled Manning's ego

Cons:

• Fangio will leave
• JSmith will retire
• Gore will go to another team
• Defense won't be as elite

So we expect him to outcoach
Pete caroll
Bruce Arians
Jeff fisher

And we expect him to create a team physical enough to compete in the NFC west?

He may be an offensive genius, but even Bill Walsh struggled against tough defenses. The niners need a tough cowheresque type coach, not a Sean Peyton.

Originally posted by pd24:
Dennis Allen is a pretty good DC also

Is he? He has been a DC for one year in Denver (20th) before getting the Oakland job.

Originally posted by phatbutskinny:
Wrong. There is another crowd that is irate and it is the 'Fangio needs to stay" crowd. Hiring Gase most likely means he doesn't and that is disappointing to say the least

We shall see, until it happens, its all speculation.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by Joecool:
Other than not being a head coach before, can we list the pros and cons of this dude, Gase?

Pros:

• Super detailed oriented above and beyond mentality

Background in all major offensive systems. Been around some great coaches and game plans adapt to players.

• Two years with Manning and he got Manning some of his best years in production. This also includes Manning's injured games.

Good idea! We can pull from articles as well. It's a great idea to post the positives and the "concerns" to watch for.