The 49ers 2015 Coaching Search Thread(All Rumors and News Here)

Originally posted by Jcool:
Last 7 seasons i believe he has averaged 6.8 wins. That is not good.

I think a big part of the problem was Shanahan the GM, not Shanahan the coach. As long as he has no say in personnel, which I'd rather see first than believe, he might be a lot better off.

"It's a little bit of a different situation. He had some stability in Denver and he had good players, but he made bad draft choice after bad draft choice. And then he chased those bad draft choices with bad free agent moves. [The Redskins] are an organization that was still lacking some depth and legit, big time Quarterbacks. They tried to patch a hole, obviously. The jury is still out on those moves and how much Mike Shanahan plays in that and how much is on Bruce Allen and the owner."

Well, Warren Sapp said Bruce Allen is nothing more than a guy that plays golf with the alumni and works the salary cap and contracts.

"(laughing). If that's the case...I've known Mike for a very long time in regards to those personnel moves and there are a lot of things you kind of look at and scratch your head and I could go through tons of them that happened in Denver which made zero sense."

For example?

"Let's start with the draft. Ashley Lelie. Really? Deltha O'Neal, who played running back in college at Cal Berkley got switched to defensive back. We drafted him in the first round. Does that truly make sense? Guys like Willie Middlebrooks. You've never heard of them. [Willie was a] defensive back from the Univ. of Minnesota that never panned out. 1st round draft choice. George Foster -1st round draft choice, who was injured his last year in college with a broken wrist and really couldn't bend his wrist. A lot of people thought he'd be available in the 4th or 5th round and we took him with the 24th pick overall in the draft. I can go on and on and on.

http://www.hogshaven.com/2010/12/29/1902428/mark-schlereth-sheds-light-on-shanahans-ego-why-redskins-traded-for

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Fangio Total HC Interview:1, with the 49ers.

Tomsula Total DC Interviews Over The Past 4 Years:0


There's probably good reason why the fans on here value these guys more than people across the rest of the NFL do.

There is also a sentiment that our D would regress UNLESS we can keep Fangio. Apparently no other DC can take all this talent and do something with it.

good point. i wonder if fangio could have the same success elsewhere with lesser talent that what we have here. you always have to look at this from both sides.. these guys are pros and they will play hard for whatever dc comes in here,, if fangio leaves. our team did not dry up and shrivel away when jh left and i doubt our defense will vanish into the bermuda triangle if fangio leaves

Judging from his career outside of SF. The answer is no.

we need to give it to Fangio. Make Donatell the DC. And get a good OC.

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by hohbie:
There is really only one reason everyone is high on him and I think that is because this is a weak coaching pool. He is one of the few coaches out there with a track record that is good.

Gase and others are not sure things. While I think Shanahan has at least proven to be a good (not great) coach. If you go with a unknown commodity you will get unknown results. Could be great or could be awful. With Shanahan you know you will at least get decent to good.

Last 7 seasons i believe he has averaged 6.8 wins. That is not good.

2 Super Bowl rings are 2 Super Bowl rings. I remember the Broncos and without Shanahan they weren't winning jack diddly poo even with Elway. Shanahan came and immediately took an almost over the hill Elway to his only 2 championships. Without Shanahan Elway never wins it all. We need a guy to win it all. Not a Marty Schotty or an Andy Reid. We need Yeezus!

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Jcool:
Last 7 seasons i believe he has averaged 6.8 wins. That is not good.

I think a big part of the problem was Shanahan the GM, not Shanahan the coach. As long as he has no say in personnel, which I'd rather see first than believe, he might be a lot better off.

"It's a little bit of a different situation. He had some stability in Denver and he had good players, but he made bad draft choice after bad draft choice. And then he chased those bad draft choices with bad free agent moves. [The Redskins] are an organization that was still lacking some depth and legit, big time Quarterbacks. They tried to patch a hole, obviously. The jury is still out on those moves and how much Mike Shanahan plays in that and how much is on Bruce Allen and the owner."

Well, Warren Sapp said Bruce Allen is nothing more than a guy that plays golf with the alumni and works the salary cap and contracts.

"(laughing). If that's the case...I've known Mike for a very long time in regards to those personnel moves and there are a lot of things you kind of look at and scratch your head and I could go through tons of them that happened in Denver which made zero sense."

For example?

"Let's start with the draft. Ashley Lelie. Really? Deltha O'Neal, who played running back in college at Cal Berkley got switched to defensive back. We drafted him in the first round. Does that truly make sense? Guys like Willie Middlebrooks. You've never heard of them. [Willie was a] defensive back from the Univ. of Minnesota that never panned out. 1st round draft choice. George Foster -1st round draft choice, who was injured his last year in college with a broken wrist and really couldn't bend his wrist. A lot of people thought he'd be available in the 4th or 5th round and we took him with the 24th pick overall in the draft. I can go on and on and on.

http://www.hogshaven.com/2010/12/29/1902428/mark-schlereth-sheds-light-on-shanahans-ego-why-redskins-traded-for

I would agree with it being his GM role if not for the fact that his downturn happened after Kubiak leaving. Playoff wins without Kubiak: 0. Wins per year without Kubiak: 6.8. Kubiak's last year as OC: 13-3. Shanahans first year without Kubiak: 9-7. Since 2000: Shanahan has had 8 top 10 offenses. 5 of those 8 came with Kubiak as OC. After Kubiak left: 21, 11, 2, 18, 16, 5, 9.

http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24375961/kyle-shanahan-staff-inexperience-at-core-of-redskins-dysfunction

My opinion doesn't mean crap, but you ask, my gut feeling is that it's gonna be Gase.

Originally posted by FL9er:
My opinion doesn't mean crap, but you ask, my gut feeling is that it's gonna be Gase.

I think if they go young it's Gase, if they go old fart it's Shanny.

u guys better be careful wanting Shanny...he might bring his buddy that just got fired the HORRIBLE Jim Haslett...granted Haslett never really had a good defense to work with here in DC, but he's just horrible at coaching defense

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by hohbie:
There is really only one reason everyone is high on him and I think that is because this is a weak coaching pool. He is one of the few coaches out there with a track record that is good.

Gase and others are not sure things. While I think Shanahan has at least proven to be a good (not great) coach. If you go with a unknown commodity you will get unknown results. Could be great or could be awful. With Shanahan you know you will at least get decent to good.

Last 7 seasons i believe he has averaged 6.8 wins. That is not good.

2 Super Bowl rings are 2 Super Bowl rings. I remember the Broncos and without Shanahan they weren't winning jack diddly poo even with Elway. Shanahan came and immediately took an almost over the hill Elway to his only 2 championships. Without Shanahan Elway never wins it all. We need a guy to win it all. Not a Marty Schotty or an Andy Reid. We need Yeezus!

Dan Reeves posted double digit win seasons in 7 of his 12 years in Denver. Took them to 3 SB's but could never get over the hump, they they canned him hired Bum for 2 years before he was canned.

Your memory is failing you I think

Shanahan did come in and win 2 SB's in his first 4 years but the next 10 saw him go to only 1 Conference Championship game and lose out in 3 WC games.

Originally posted by hohbie:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Why does everyone have such a hard on for Shanahan??

He has ONE winning season in 6 years. He hasn't won a playoff game since 2005.....Wasn't one of the issues with Jim based around control? Everywhere Shanny has coached he was in control and had issues with the FO.

Everyone gives Gase/McDaniels crap saying it's all Manning/Brady, but Shanahan had Elway when he won it all.

I think it's pretty bad that everyone is talking about a successor, when he hasn't even coached a down yet lol...and if they are already planning for a successor for Mike, who would it be?? and please do not say his son.

I'm down for zone-blocking, but SF was pretty darn good in the power run game the past couple years. He isn't the only HC candidate that has run some sort of zone-blocking either.

I want a HC that makes adjustments and creates match up problems (on a weekly basis) for the other team. If you watch NE and DEN games week in and week out the game plan changes according to the defense.

I want a coach that is there for the long term, not someone that everyone is already talking about a successor for

There is really only one reason everyone is high on him and I think that is because this is a weak coaching pool. He is one of the few coaches out there with a track record that is good.

Gase and others are not sure things. While I think Shanahan has at least proven to be a good (not great) coach. If you go with a unknown commodity you will get unknown results. Could be great or could be awful. With Shanahan you know you will at least get decent to good.

I don't think the coaching pool is weak...there are some very good coaching minds out there and people need to do some research instead of jumping on a big name. Coaches like Harbs don't become available every year.

There have been plenty of unknown commodities that have turned into good HC EX: John Harbaugh (ST coach), McCarthy (OC in bad offense), McCoy (said to be product of Manning), Chip Kelly ( College coach would play calling work in NFL?), Tomlin (was too young to be a HC) etc...

Mike really hasn't been good since 2005 and it was a disaster in Washington....that all being said I'll take him over Tomsula lol

Originally posted by FL9er:

My opinion doesn't mean crap, but you ask, my gut feeling is that it's gonna be Gase.

Would be surprised if it's not him or Shanny. Would support either hire.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I don't think the coaching pool is weak...there are some very good coaching minds out there and people need to do some research instead of jumping on a big name. Coaches like Harbs don't become available every year.

There have been plenty of unknown commodities that have turned into good HC EX: John Harbaugh (ST coach), McCarthy (OC in bad offense), McCoy (said to be product of Manning), Chip Kelly ( College coach would play calling work in NFL?), Tomlin (was too young to be a HC) etc...

Mike really has been good since 2005 and it was a disaster in Washington....that all being said I'll take him over Tomsula lol

McCoy: back to back 9-7 seasons and missed the playoffs this year. Not sure i would call him a good coach.

The coaching pool so far is pathetic. Either not enough experience, or mostly have-beens.

Unless there is another candidate (even from college), the Harbaugh loss will hurt the 49ers for yrs to come.

I hope the guys in the front office thought this through...or maybe not.

Phoenix, everybody has been interviewed except, Quinn, Boyles and Austin, correct?