In my opinion, the hate of Gase is unwarranted.
Beginning this season, he started out with the offensive plan of let Manning do his thing and sling the ball. As Mannings game began to decline (old age started to show IMO) Gase was left with a task of putting together another dimension to the offense behind an undrafted RB (Hillman and Ball were both out)
Week 11 against the Rams, Manning throws the ball 54 times, CJ Anderson gets 9 touches. Broncos lose 22-7
Literally starting the week after, Gase recognized the problem, and adjusted accordingly (Greg Roman's vocabulary doesn't include the word adjust so it may be a new idea to some of us)
Week 12, Gase began to design runs for CJ against one of the best defenses at stopping the run (not the best IMO, but top 5)
Broncos beat Miami with Manning throwing 34 times and CJ getting 27 touches averaging 6.6 yards per carry
Denver wins 39-36
Week 13 Manning gets 34 attempts, CJ gets 32 against a somewhat over-rated Kansas City run defense
Broncos win at KC 29-16 with CJ averaging 5.3 yards per carry
Week 14 Manning gets 20 attempts with CJ getting 21, first time in Manning's Denver career a bronco RB gets more carries than Manning has attempts
Going against the toughest run defense (IMO) in Buffalo, CJ gets 21 carries with 3 tds averaging 4.2 YPC
Week 15 Manning gets another 20 attempts and again, CJ Anderson gets more attempts with the ball than Manning. CJ has a bad night against a mediocre run defense (San Diego) but the Broncos still win 22-10
Week 16 Manning throws more than he has in the past 3 weeks. Manning records 44 attemps and CJ gets 18. Manning posts a 2 TD night coupled with 4 ints.
CJ on the other hand gets 4.6 YPC with a TD. Broncos lose to the Bengals 28-37
Week 17 The Broncos play the Raiders. To be honest, it doesn't really matter what you do, you should win.
CJ averaged 6.7 YPC with 3 tds. Manning threw the ball 37 times without any INT's or TDs.
TLDR:
The Broncos had been relying on a pass first offense, hardly giving Ball/Hillman/Anderson any touches.
Over the last couple weeks, when Peyton began to decline, Gase started running the ball more. Behind a line that was built to defend the QB, and using a 3rd string UDFA RB, Gase was able to evolve Denver's offense into more of a balanced/run first offense.
The result was the Broncos going 5-1 over the last 6 weeks beating teams like Miami, KC (@ KC), and San Diego. The week they did lose Manning threw for 44 attempts and CJ touched the ball 18 times. I'd venture to say that not only did they evolve a running game, but they started to depend on it.
Points to Gase for recognizing such a need and starting a run game from scratch
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Jan 14, 2015 at 11:06 AM
- Quest4six
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Jan 14, 2015 at 11:06 AM
- diablo
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Originally posted by Jesu80ncleats:
Originally posted by kray28:They are so different lol
Gase is the Mike Nolan option.
same guy who wanted to draft aj hawk instead of vernon
Jan 14, 2015 at 11:06 AM
- dtg_9er
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Originally posted by crake49:
Originally posted by English:
If the guy decides to stay with his current team it will be downright idiotic to blame Jed or Baalke.
Who bears the responsibility for this entire episode? These guys are either in charge or they aren't. If they're in charge, then they get the credit or the blame for whatever happens.
Just because they can't hire everyone they would like to does not mean they have failed. It is up to them to go after the best they can and select the best available from those willing. I suppose they could black bag it, drive to Denver in a black SUV, put a hood over Gase's head and bring him back to SF...but that sounds just a tad extreme!
......."We've got your daughter...get in the car!"
From the producers of Taken 1, 2 & 3..."Coachnap!"
[ Edited by dtg_9er on Jan 14, 2015 at 11:08 AM ]
Jan 14, 2015 at 11:07 AM
- kray28
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Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by Jesu80ncleats:
Originally posted by kray28:And what is the big picture? why don't you enlighten me.
Originally posted by Jesu80ncleats:
Originally posted by kray28:They are so different lol
Gase is the Mike Nolan option.
Only if you are blind to the big picture.
He doesn't know much about football, just names and people to blame.
Projection is the last resort of posters like you.
Jan 14, 2015 at 11:07 AM
- jimmythegreekjr
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Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by NeonNiner:
Originally posted by jimmythegreekjr:
Again, if the 49ers don't Gase, it's a failure on the part of the FO if they promote Tomsula or Fangio...Means they are settling...Jed didn't get his "teacher"...I still say they should continue to look and interview and find the best candidate
Exactly.
the bolded is BS. Tomsula is a teacher.
We're not talkning about teaching porn
Jan 14, 2015 at 11:08 AM
- Jesu80ncleats
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Originally posted by kray28:I didn't think so.
Originally posted by Jesu80ncleats:
Originally posted by kray28:And what is the big picture? why don't you enlighten me.
Originally posted by Jesu80ncleats:
Originally posted by kray28:They are so different lol
Gase is the Mike Nolan option.
Only if you are blind to the big picture.
If you're blind, I can't make you see.
Jan 14, 2015 at 11:08 AM
- boast
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Originally posted by kray28:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by Jesu80ncleats:
Originally posted by kray28:And what is the big picture? why don't you enlighten me.
Originally posted by Jesu80ncleats:
Originally posted by kray28:They are so different lol
Gase is the Mike Nolan option.
Only if you are blind to the big picture.
He doesn't know much about football, just names and people to blame.
Projection is the last resort of posters like you.
the irony is these guys call Tomsula, Sing 2.0 yet call out other posters as not knowing much about football. ignorance at it's finest.
Jan 14, 2015 at 11:09 AM
- pd24
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Originally posted by kray28:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by Jesu80ncleats:
Originally posted by kray28:And what is the big picture? why don't you enlighten me.
Originally posted by Jesu80ncleats:
Originally posted by kray28:They are so different lol
Gase is the Mike Nolan option.
Only if you are blind to the big picture.
He doesn't know much about football, just names and people to blame.
Projection is the last resort of posters like you.
You say he is like Nolan, but can't back it up. How? WHat system does he run? Who has he learned from? WHat are people in football saying about him?
What did people in football say about Nolan?
My point, you know nothing, just post stupid stuff.
Jan 14, 2015 at 11:09 AM
- Memphis9er
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Originally posted by kray28:
Originally posted by Jesu80ncleats:
Originally posted by kray28:And what is the big picture? why don't you enlighten me.
Originally posted by Jesu80ncleats:
Originally posted by kray28:They are so different lol
Gase is the Mike Nolan option.
Only if you are blind to the big picture.
If you're blind, I can't make you see.
Or maybe you're just full of 💩.
Jan 14, 2015 at 11:09 AM
- kray28
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Originally posted by Jesu80ncleats:
Originally posted by kray28:I didn't think so.
Originally posted by Jesu80ncleats:
Originally posted by kray28:And what is the big picture? why don't you enlighten me.
Originally posted by Jesu80ncleats:
Originally posted by kray28:They are so different lol
Gase is the Mike Nolan option.
Only if you are blind to the big picture.
If you're blind, I can't make you see.
To quote the illustrious George W. Bush: Who cares what you think?
Jan 14, 2015 at 11:09 AM
- tommyncal
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My wish list:
HC; Gase
OC: anyone but Knapp (however,it would probably be Knapp)
OL: Dave Magazu, plus bring in Alex Gibbs as an OL consultant (video)
TE: Clancy Barone
WR: Tyke Tolbert
RB: Tom Rathman
DC: Wade Phillips (attacking defense, not Fangio's passive defense), maybe even Schwartz
DL: Jim Tomsula
LB: Jim Leavitt
DB: Ed Donatell
HC; Gase
OC: anyone but Knapp (however,it would probably be Knapp)
OL: Dave Magazu, plus bring in Alex Gibbs as an OL consultant (video)
TE: Clancy Barone
WR: Tyke Tolbert
RB: Tom Rathman
DC: Wade Phillips (attacking defense, not Fangio's passive defense), maybe even Schwartz
DL: Jim Tomsula
LB: Jim Leavitt
DB: Ed Donatell
Jan 14, 2015 at 11:10 AM
- Jesu80ncleats
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Originally posted by boast:I never said anything like that, in fact sinse you want to bring it up, I personally don't know what Tomsula would bring to the table, I know hes a great motivator. Probably the only thing similar to Sing.
Originally posted by kray28:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by Jesu80ncleats:
Originally posted by kray28:And what is the big picture? why don't you enlighten me.
Originally posted by Jesu80ncleats:
Originally posted by kray28:They are so different lol
Gase is the Mike Nolan option.
Only if you are blind to the big picture.
He doesn't know much about football, just names and people to blame.
Projection is the last resort of posters like you.
the irony is these guys call Tomsula, Sing 2.0 yet call out other posters as not knowing much about football. ignorance at it's finest.
Jan 14, 2015 at 11:11 AM
- Jesu80ncleats
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Originally posted by kray28:You want to talk football? or are you just going to pick fights? because you will do it alone.
Originally posted by Jesu80ncleats:
Originally posted by kray28:I didn't think so.
Originally posted by Jesu80ncleats:
Originally posted by kray28:And what is the big picture? why don't you enlighten me.
Originally posted by Jesu80ncleats:
Originally posted by kray28:They are so different lol
Gase is the Mike Nolan option.
Only if you are blind to the big picture.
If you're blind, I can't make you see.
To quote the illustrious George W. Bush: Who cares what you think?
Jan 14, 2015 at 11:11 AM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by Quest4six:
In my opinion, the hate of Gase is unwarranted.
Beginning this season, he started out with the offensive plan of let Manning do his thing and sling the ball. As Mannings game began to decline (old age started to show IMO) Gase was left with a task of putting together another dimension to the offense behind an undrafted RB (Hillman and Ball were both out)
Week 11 against the Rams, Manning throws the ball 54 times, CJ Anderson gets 9 touches. Broncos lose 22-7
Literally starting the week after, Gase recognized the problem, and adjusted accordingly (Greg Roman's vocabulary doesn't include the word adjust so it may be a new idea to some of us)
Week 12, Gase began to design runs for CJ against one of the best defenses at stopping the run (not the best IMO, but top 5)
Broncos beat Miami with Manning throwing 34 times and CJ getting 27 touches averaging 6.6 yards per carry
Denver wins 39-36
Week 13 Manning gets 34 attempts, CJ gets 32 against a somewhat over-rated Kansas City run defense
Broncos win at KC 29-16 with CJ averaging 5.3 yards per carry
Week 14 Manning gets 20 attempts with CJ getting 21, first time in Manning's Denver career a bronco RB gets more carries than Manning has attempts
Going against the toughest run defense (IMO) in Buffalo, CJ gets 21 carries with 3 tds averaging 4.2 YPC
Week 15 Manning gets another 20 attempts and again, CJ Anderson gets more attempts with the ball than Manning. CJ has a bad night against a mediocre run defense (San Diego) but the Broncos still win 22-10
Week 16 Manning throws more than he has in the past 3 weeks. Manning records 44 attemps and CJ gets 18. Manning posts a 2 TD night coupled with 4 ints.
CJ on the other hand gets 4.6 YPC with a TD. Broncos lose to the Bengals 28-37
Week 17 The Broncos play the Raiders. To be honest, it doesn't really matter what you do, you should win.
CJ averaged 6.7 YPC with 3 tds. Manning threw the ball 37 times without any INT's or TDs.
TLDR:
The Broncos had been relying on a pass first offense, hardly giving Ball/Hillman/Anderson any touches.
Over the last couple weeks, when Peyton began to decline, Gase started running the ball more. Behind a line that was built to defend the QB, and using a 3rd string UDFA RB, Gase was able to evolve Denver's offense into more of a balanced/run first offense.
The result was the Broncos going 5-1 over the last 6 weeks beating teams like Miami, KC (@ KC), and San Diego. The week they did lose Manning threw for 44 attempts and CJ touched the ball 18 times. I'd venture to say that not only did they evolve a running game, but they started to depend on it.
Points to Gase for recognizing such a need and starting a run game from scratch
Jan 14, 2015 at 11:11 AM
- Cisco0623
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Originally posted by Jesu80ncleats:
I never said anything like that, in fact sinse you want to bring it up, I personally don't know what Tomsula would bring to the table, I know hes a great motivator. Probably the only thing similar to Sing.
Supposedly Tomsula is amazing at teaching x's and o's to the players.