The 49ers 2015 Coaching Search Thread(All Rumors and News Here)

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Geeked:
I have a feeling the retread option they most probable is Kubs. Everyone being interviewed now is getting the "opportunity" to blow them away, but they're most likely not the "planned" target.

I'm hoping for Kubiak. He brings so much to the table and is still relatively young enough. Former NFL QB, has 3 Superbowl rings as an assistant, very talented OC, can put together a good quality staff.

I wouldn't be against Kubiak either if the Niners decide they want to go with a former head coach. He did nice work with Schaub and has now done fine work with Flacco (who I think is vastly overrated as a QB).

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by valrod33:
No to old ass Shanahan or Holmgren

Pete Carroll is older than Shanahan. Tom Coughlin is older than Mike Holmgren.

Difference is two have been consistently coaching, the others have been sitting on couches.

Originally posted by tn9er:

Originally posted by susweel:
regarding Holmgren

Old fart like him would want total control and wouldn't wonna take orders from a novice like Baalke and an owner thats still green behind the ears.

you seem to forget that Holmgren used to change Jeds diapers...............

Originally posted by JoeBart324:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Geeked:
I have a feeling the retread option they most probable is Kubs. Everyone being interviewed now is getting the "opportunity" to blow them away, but they're most likely not the "planned" target.

I'm hoping for Kubiak. He brings so much to the table and is still relatively young enough. Former NFL QB, has 3 Superbowl rings as an assistant, very talented OC, can put together a good quality staff.

I wouldn't be against Kubiak either if the Niners decide they want to go with a former head coach. He did nice work with Schaub and has now done fine work with Flacco (who I think is vastly overrated as a QB).

He is the opposite of Peyton Manning. Not so great in the regular season and great in the playoffs.

HC-Fangio
OC-Chudzinski
DC-Donatell

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by kray28:

Do you understand why that behavior is construed as arrogant? They didn't even give him an interview.

Should they offer up an interview to every old guy out there past his prime? I'm sure Marty Schottenheimer and Seifert have a little left in the tank, interview them too.

Also round up Marv Levy and Mike Ditka while they're at it. I think a good example of one HC that basically came out of nowhere who's remained very consistent and steady over a long time is John Harbaugh. I'm sure when he was hired there were thousands of ravens fans going WTF at first. I mean who goes from being an ST Coordinator straight to an HC, it doesn't happen very often. He even had one or two non-winning seasons but their FO rode the storm out and almost got to the SB once before finally winning it. IMO he keeps a much better handle on things as an HC than his brother does. He has a similar demeanor and ability with the media as Carroll without being a smug a-hole. We need to find the next John Harbaugh HC candidate which unfortunately was not his brother Jim. In fact, losing to his brother in the SB may be the ultimate reason why Jim is gone.

Originally posted by KRS-1:

No matter who we hire some of you guys will question it, criticize it, and doom and gloom it. There is no way that the FO can win with everybody regardless of who they do or do not interview and who they do or do not hire. But all your huffing and puffing is not going to blow the house down.

So much this. I can't wait to see heads exploding when the 49ers announce whomever they are hiring. No matter who they hire, there are those who will find reasons to criticize it.

Originally posted by valrod33:
HC-Fangio
OC-Chudzinski
DC-Donatell

No thanks. Fangio has been an average to mediocre DC in the NFL outside of San Francisco. Nothing about him screams head potential to me. His last actual head coaching interview for a team other than the 49ers was like back in 1997 for San Diego.

Originally posted by verb1der:

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by valrod33:
No to old ass Shanahan or Holmgren

Pete Carroll is older than Shanahan. Tom Coughlin is older than Mike Holmgren.

Difference is two have been consistently coaching, the others have been sitting on couches.

Maybe it's just my age, but I wouldn't be too quick to assume guys like Shanahan or Holmgren don't have what it takes to head coach. Some guys sit on the couch for a couple years and it just lights a fire under their azz. Say what you want about those two, but both of them have groomed big-armed QB's to lead championship offenses. We actually KNOW both of them have what it takes to get there. We don't know that about any of the younger candidates. My only fundamental problem with some of the younger guys is that I don't think the team can keep Fangio if they go with one of the younger guys. Shanahan, Holmgren or even Rex Ryan would have a good shot at retaining Fangio as DC.

And BTW, Fangio is only 6 years younger than Mike Shanahan.

Originally posted by ninerjok:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by kray28:
Do you understand why that behavior is construed as arrogant? They didn't even give him an interview.

Should they offer up an interview to every old guy out there past his prime? I'm sure Marty Schottenheimer and Seifert have a little left in the tank, interview them too.

Also round up Marv Levy and Mike Ditka while they're at it. I think a good example of one HC that basically came out of nowhere who's remained very consistent and steady over a long time is John Harbaugh. I'm sure when he was hired there were thousands of ravens fans going WTF at first. I mean who goes from being an ST Coordinator straight to an HC, it doesn't happen very often. He even had one or two non-winning seasons but their FO rode the storm out and got a SB ring and nearly made it to a second. IMO he keeps a much better handle on things as an HC than his brother does. He has a similar demeanor and ability with the media as Carroll without being a smug a-hole. We need to find the next John Harbaugh HC candidate which unfortunately was not his brother Jim. In fact, losing to his brother in the SB may be the ultimate reason why Jim is gone.

If we could find the next John Harbaugh that would be the grand slam hire.

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by 190836:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by 190836:
Not gonna happen. People like BW come once in a life time. The best thing to do is to bring back the system that brought us 5 SBs and that's BW's WCO. MH offers the closest offensive philosophy to that system.

Why is that the best thing to do ?

I am not saying its the best thing to do. But if you haven't won in over a decade, except for JH, at least give it a chance. Explore it and if you don't like it don't hire the man. But to flat out refuse the guy is very amateurish. Just saying!

Well your above quote says you said it was the best thing to do.

They have a short list of candidates whom they are hiring, and just because one coach who some fans are still emotionally attached too is not reached out to you guys go off the rails. FYI the sky is not falling. They did mention they were looking for a long term solution, and at 67 years old MH is not that, yet Yorks gonna York is all the rage right now when it should be fans gonna fan. Some say they have no plan in place, but the plan has been outlined, cast a wide net to find a long term solution who can be a teacher not just a coach to lead this team and turn us into perennial winners. And again Big Mike does not check the long term box so they are not going to bother when they can spend there time interviewing the guys who do check all their boxes.

No matter who we hire some of you guys will question it, criticize it, and doom and gloom it. There is no way that the FO can win with everybody regardless of who they do or do not interview and who they do or do not hire. But all your huffing and puffing is not going to blow the house down.

Your points well taken. But i have a question for you. Did the WCO win bunch of SBs for you? If it did, why not give it a chance again and hire a guy that is well versed in it. No one is more qualified in that system more than MH or MS. Age has nothing to do with it.

Originally posted by Jcool:
If we could find the next John Harbaugh that would be the grand slam hire.

Yeah but if they did draft the next John Harbaugh, your actual casual fan would lose their minds and the tears would be nonstop.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by valrod33:
HC-Fangio
OC-Chudzinski
DC-Donatell

No thanks. Fangio has been an average to mediocre DC in the NFL outside of San Francisco. Nothing about him screams head potential to me. His last actual head coaching interview for a team other than the 49ers was like back in 1997 for San Diego.

You mean, outside of what's he's done the last 4 years? Yeah, let's ignore his recent accomplishments and only look at his older, not so good accomplishments. Lol

Originally posted by 190836:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 190836:
I am very serious. Yorks haven't proven sh** with their hires so far, The one hire that actually did win for them was fired last week. What gives you any confidence that they are going to hire the right guy again.

Because using the "Yorks" discredits everything else you wrote after that.

Lol, so Yorks are untouchable. You can't criticize or question them, cause they do everything right, like hiring Nolan, Sing and........ You are funny!!

If you were around the forums, at the time, you would know that almost every Niner fan loved those hirings. Nolan started off great, and unfortunately for him, he could not keep an offensive staff together, and it led to his demise. When Nolan left Alex out to dry is when fans turned on him. As for Singletary, most fans wanted him too. It wasn't until he showed that he was utterly clueless when it came to X's and O's, and that his only real quality was being a firey guy, that the fans turned on him. When he came in and turned Vernon Davis into a team player, the team was playing hard for him, so the hiring made sense.

I think they learned from their mistake of giving the interim the job though, because the same situation happened with Tomsula. The team came out and destroyed the Cardinals for the one game, and they did not give him consideration for the HC job in the next hiring.

Too many fans jump on the York hate bandwagon because of how situations ended with coaches, not how they began. The only hiring in the dark ages that did not make sense, at the time, was Dennis Erickson. That was a complete failure, and most fans knew it when it happened. If they fumble this hiring like they did with Erickson, I will jump on the anti-York bandwagon, but for now, I choose to give them benefit of the doubt.

Originally posted by 190836:
Your points well taken. But i have a question for you. Did the WCO win bunch of SBs for you? If it did, why not give it a chance again and hire a guy that is well versed in it. No one is more qualified in that system more than MH or MS. Age has nothing to do with it.

LOL, like 20-30 years ago. Things change in football, sticking to the past doesn't mean you will automatically experience the same success as you did in the past. There's good reason why the Packers offense isn't based around the power sweep anymore. The original WCO that Walsh ran isn't even used anymore in the NFL, you've got different flavors of WCO that have been heavily modified to the point that its hard to even connect them to the original.