The 49ers 2015 Coaching Search Thread(All Rumors and News Here)

Originally posted by 190836:
Your points well taken. But i have a question for you. Did the WCO win bunch of SBs for you? If it did, why not give it a chance again and hire a guy that is well versed in it. No one is more qualified in that system more than MH or MS. Age has nothing to do with it.

TBH I could care less about a particular system or scheme. I want the best candidate to be hired as Head Coach here, regardless of his background be it defensive or offensive, whether he has past ties to this franchise or not or if likes ketchup on his french fries.

I am still of the opinion that Kubiak would be the best hire out there, especially if he keeps Fangio.

Originally posted by KRS-1:
TBH I could care less about a particular system or scheme. I want the best candidate to be hired as Head Coach here, regardless of his background be it defensive or offensive, whether he has past ties to this franchise or not or if likes ketchup on his french fries.

Cosigned.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
I am still of the opinion that Kubiak would be the best hire out there, especially if he keeps Fangio.

word on the street is if fangio doesn't get the HC job, he's bolting.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CMIO:
As opposed to Gase and McDaniels, who would instantly take us to the SB ? Because they "coach" players like Manning and Brady ? Don't get the hype behind those guys -- without their respective QBs, they wouldn't even be candidates...

SO you want the FO to look at coaches that have bad QBs?? I don't really understand you reasoning saying that QBs make coaches? I think it is a mutual thing and I don't think it hurts learning from really good QB's as well.

Like I mentioned there were plenty of OC that had good QBs that turned into good HC.

Lol if that is the case, Kyle Shanahan should be a shoe in! The argument that these guys can't coach because they coach Manning and Brady, is a joke. I said it before in this thread. Look at how many coordinators taught Steve Young and Joe Montana. It didn't hinder their ability to be good coaches after they left.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
I am still of the opinion that Kubiak would be the best hire out there, especially if he keeps Fangio.

This too. I don't think we'll know anything for at least another week if not longer. If the front office really likes Kubiak, who knows how long they'll be willing to wait to have a sitdown with him.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
I am still of the opinion that Kubiak would be the best hire out there, especially if he keeps Fangio.

This too. I don't think we'll know anything for at least another week if not longer. If the front office really likes Kubiak, who knows how long they'll be willing to wait to have a sitdown with him.

I'm in agreement; however, I still believe Helfrich is the wildcard. I mean, I'd give it a 10 - 15 percent chance of happening, but those are better odds than I'd give anyone they've interviewed.

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
word on the street is if fangio doesn't get the HC job, he's bolting.

Word on the street also says you're being considered as the next quarterbacks coach. I wouldn't take word on the street too seriously.



Fangio isn't a guy with many options. Nobody is banging down his door to make him a head coach, he could always beg his way out of his contract....but go where? Any team he goes to would likely have less talent than this one and he'd probably be paid less to boot. So he'd leave a team where he has a lot of talent, familiarity with the players and an established home for some other team just to be a defensive coordinator again? I don't buy it.


The notion that a head coaching job is owed to him is just silly. Rex Ryan got passed up for a head coaching gig in Baltimore, Gus Bradley in Seattle, LeBeau in Pittsburgh, its part of the business. Fangio's been around too long to not get that.

Originally posted by ChazBoner:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
I am still of the opinion that Kubiak would be the best hire out there, especially if he keeps Fangio.

word on the street is if fangio doesn't get the HC job, he's bolting.

He can't unless he's offered a HC position somewhere. He's on contract for 1 more year.

Originally posted by Jakemall:
He can't unless he's offered a HC position somewhere. He's on contract for 1 more year.

He could if he made a fuss and simply refused to work but that brings up the question.....where would he go? To as good of a situation as he has here? Doubtful. To receive the same pay as he receives here? Even more doubtful.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by daragon:
You mean, outside of what's he's done the last 4 years? Yeah, let's ignore his recent accomplishments and only look at his older, not so good accomplishments. Lol

The point remains, did Fangio all of a sudden became this tremendous coach after a decade+ of being an average DC, or is it more likely that the talent on this team makes him look a heck of a lot smarter. The same questions people are asking of Gase and McDaniels apply to Fangio as far as I'm concerned. The fact is, outside of San Francisco he hasn't had a lot of success and his defenses have typically gotten worse, season by season so its certainly worth considering.

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 190836:
Your points well taken. But i have a question for you. Did the WCO win bunch of SBs for you? If it did, why not give it a chance again and hire a guy that is well versed in it. No one is more qualified in that system more than MH or MS. Age has nothing to do with it.

LOL, like 20-30 years ago. Things change in football, sticking to the past doesn't mean you will automatically experience the same success as you did in the past. There's good reason why the Packers offense isn't based around the power sweep anymore. The original WCO that Walsh ran isn't even used anymore in the NFL, you've got different flavors of WCO that have been heavily modified to the point that its hard to even connect them to the original.

Agreed, but don't you think coaches also change their approach and adapt to the new NFL? All i am saying is to give these guys an interview chance. I for one don't want to go back to the dark days of Nolan, sing and Erickson. Except for MS, none of these names inspire me. Kubiak would be an option.

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by 190836:
Your points well taken. But i have a question for you. Did the WCO win bunch of SBs for you? If it did, why not give it a chance again and hire a guy that is well versed in it. No one is more qualified in that system more than MH or MS. Age has nothing to do with it.

TBH I could care less about a particular system or scheme. I want the best candidate to be hired as Head Coach here, regardless of his background be it defensive or offensive, whether he has past ties to this franchise or not or if likes ketchup on his french fries.

fair enough, you got your opinion and I have mine. Hopefully we get the right guy here.

Surprised no interviews with Gruden yet

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24375961/kyle-shanahan-staff-inexperience-at-core-of-redskins-dysfunction

As a former member of the organization put it: "Kyle b***hes about everything, and then his father has to fix it. He b***hes about the food in the cafeteria, he b***hes about the field, he b***hes about the equipment. He complains and then Mike takes care of it. Kyle is a big problem there. He is not well liked."

"This is the NFL, it's not supposed to be a training ground for coaches," said someone who has worked with Kyle Shanahan in Washington

"He's a mountain out of a molehill guy, and he's got entitlement syndrome. That's why we ended up hiring all of his close friends and buddies, so no one can challenge him. But it makes you worse in the long run, because there is no accountability. Ultimately, it's his father's fault for pacifying his son."