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The 49ers 2015 Coaching Search Thread(All Rumors and News Here)
The 49ers 2015 Coaching Search Thread(All Rumors and News Here)
Jan 5, 2015 at 12:46 PM
- Cisco0623
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I would have loved to see Holmgren as our HC and Fangio remain on defense.
Jan 5, 2015 at 12:49 PM
- Jcool
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People really need to get over Shanahan and son. Cleveland is NEVER going to release him and if they do that is a huge red flag. If he says he will quit if they don't release him that is just as bad.
Jan 5, 2015 at 12:49 PM
- LottDMontanaO
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Originally posted by jimmythegreekjr:
Ok I can understand that. My problem is why does he have to bring in his son along as OC if he becomes head coach? This is a conflict of interest. I'd rather hire Shanahan senior as OC.
Has it been mentioned somewhere that Mike Shanahan is insisting on bringing his son on as OC where Mike gets the HC role? I've only heard rumors this could be an idea, and that Kyle would then be the long-term successor to Mike as HC...but again, just rumors. Kyle would have to get out of his contract w/ Cleveland somehow.
Jan 5, 2015 at 12:49 PM
- jimmythegreekjr
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by jimmythegreekjr:
Ok I can understand that. My problem is why does he have to bring in his son along as OC if he becomes head coach? This is a conflict of interest. I'd rather hire Shanahan senior as OC.
What on earth makes you think that he would ever accept an OC position.....
Norv Turner has after a couple times after he's been fired as HC. So has Gary Kubiak. and so has Todd Haly.. Many coordinators who have become head coaches
and gotten fired go back to their bread and butter after head coach stints. And Mike Shanahan is currently unemployed.
Jan 5, 2015 at 12:50 PM
- Austrian49er
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Originally posted by CMIO:
Stay in Austria
What would your choice be then?
Jan 5, 2015 at 12:50 PM
- Marvin49
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Originally posted by jimmythegreekjr:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by jimmythegreekjr:
What is with all this Shanahan interest? Is Jed York becoming Daniel Snyder 2.0? Are the west coast version of the Redsklins? Shanahan going to hire his son as OC. This is ridiculous. Kubiak would be a better choice.
Niners ain't the Redskins. The issues in Washington predate Shanahan and will exist long after today.
My reasons on being interested in Shanahan have everything to do with teaching Colin how to play QB in a more conventional way, but also understand how to develop mobile QBs in Young and RGIII. Yes, RGIII got hurt, but a lot of that is on RGIII himself. It's also worth mentioning that RGIII played well enough to be rookie of the year under Shanahan.
In addition to that, Shanahan has been able to put together a deadly rushing attack everywhere he's been. Check out these backs and their numbers under Shanahan....
BRONCOS:
Terrell Davis:
1995: 1117 yds, 7 TDs
1996: 1538 yds, 13 TDs
1997: 1750 yds, 15 TDs
1998: 2008 yds, 21 TDs
Olandis Gary:
1999: 1159 yds, 7 TDs
Mike Anderson:
2000: 1487 yds, 15 TDs
Mike Anderson and Terrell Davis shared:
2001: 1379 yds, 4 TDs
Clinton Portis:
2002: 1508 yds, 15 TDs
2003: 1591 yds, 14 TDs
Reuben Droughns
2004: 1240 yards, 6 TDs
Mike Anderson...again
2005: 1014 yds, 14 TDs
Tatum Bell
2006: 1025 yds, 2 TDs
Travis Henry and Selvin Young:
2007: 1420 yds, 5 TDs
in 2008, they had 3 guys over 300 yards
REDSKINS:
Ryan Torrain:
2010: 742 yds, 4TDs
Roy Helu:
2011: 640 yds, 2 TDs
Alfred Morris:
2012: 1613 yds, 13 TDs
2013: 1275 yds, 7 TDs
This ain't rocket science. There are some good back in there, but its the SYSTEM that really makes those guys good. I just picture Carlos Hyde running that zone-blocking scheme and it makes me happy. The return of the running game, huge cutback lanes to run in and getting Hyde in space.
Combine that with Kap improving (hopefully) and running a bit of the read option....looks good to me, particularly with the defense Shanahan never had in Washington.
If this was a total rebuild, I wouldn't be interested in Shanahan. It isn't a complete rebuild though. This is a talented team with a lot of the parts in place already to make Shanahans offense work.
If they can keep Vic around and make sure Shanahan stays away from the personnel dept, I'm all on board.
Ok I can understand that. My problem is why does he have to bring in his son along as OC if he becomes head coach? This is a conflict of interest. I'd rather hire Shanahan senior as OC.
That's all speculation at this point
Jan 5, 2015 at 12:50 PM
- Cisco0623
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Originally posted by jimmythegreekjr:
Norv Turner has after a couple times after he's been fired as HC. So has Gary Kubiak. and so has Todd Haly.. Many coordinators who have become head coaches
and gotten fired go back to their bread and butter after head coach stints. And Mike Shanahan is currently unemployed.
True, but i cant see Mike doing that. Can you?
Jan 5, 2015 at 12:51 PM
- Jcool
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Originally posted by jimmythegreekjr:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by jimmythegreekjr:
Ok I can understand that. My problem is why does he have to bring in his son along as OC if he becomes head coach? This is a conflict of interest. I'd rather hire Shanahan senior as OC.
What on earth makes you think that he would ever accept an OC position.....
Norv Turner has after a couple times after he's been fired as HC. So has Gary Kubiak. and so has Todd Haly.. Many coordinators who have become head coaches
and gotten fired go back to their bread and butter after head coach stints. And Mike Shanahan is currently unemployed.
Mike Shanahan hasn't been an OC since 1994. Why would he do so now?
Jan 5, 2015 at 12:51 PM
- socalniner
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I'd be cool with Shanny/Fangio. Ball control and defense wins championships!
Jan 5, 2015 at 12:53 PM
- evil
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Originally posted by grizzlyadams:My Best guess: after the 49ers satisfy the Rooney rule (midweek), I think a decision will come late in the week. If it doesn't, I'm going to think they're holding out for a coordinator who is still in the playoffs (Gase, McD, Kubiak). That's just my unprofessional (and probably unwanted) opinion.
What if I told you there is a very real chance they could hire the Rooney Rule candidate ?
Jan 5, 2015 at 12:53 PM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by jimmythegreekjr:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by jimmythegreekjr:
What is with all this Shanahan interest? Is Jed York becoming Daniel Snyder 2.0? Are the west coast version of the Redsklins? Shanahan going to hire his son as OC. This is ridiculous. Kubiak would be a better choice.
Niners ain't the Redskins. The issues in Washington predate Shanahan and will exist long after today.
My reasons on being interested in Shanahan have everything to do with teaching Colin how to play QB in a more conventional way, but also understand how to develop mobile QBs in Young and RGIII. Yes, RGIII got hurt, but a lot of that is on RGIII himself. It's also worth mentioning that RGIII played well enough to be rookie of the year under Shanahan.
In addition to that, Shanahan has been able to put together a deadly rushing attack everywhere he's been. Check out these backs and their numbers under Shanahan....
BRONCOS:
Terrell Davis:
1995: 1117 yds, 7 TDs
1996: 1538 yds, 13 TDs
1997: 1750 yds, 15 TDs
1998: 2008 yds, 21 TDs
Olandis Gary:
1999: 1159 yds, 7 TDs
Mike Anderson:
2000: 1487 yds, 15 TDs
Mike Anderson and Terrell Davis shared:
2001: 1379 yds, 4 TDs
Clinton Portis:
2002: 1508 yds, 15 TDs
2003: 1591 yds, 14 TDs
Reuben Droughns
2004: 1240 yards, 6 TDs
Mike Anderson...again
2005: 1014 yds, 14 TDs
Tatum Bell
2006: 1025 yds, 2 TDs
Travis Henry and Selvin Young:
2007: 1420 yds, 5 TDs
in 2008, they had 3 guys over 300 yards
REDSKINS:
Ryan Torrain:
2010: 742 yds, 4TDs
Roy Helu:
2011: 640 yds, 2 TDs
Alfred Morris:
2012: 1613 yds, 13 TDs
2013: 1275 yds, 7 TDs
This ain't rocket science. There are some good back in there, but its the SYSTEM that really makes those guys good. I just picture Carlos Hyde running that zone-blocking scheme and it makes me happy. The return of the running game, huge cutback lanes to run in and getting Hyde in space.
Combine that with Kap improving (hopefully) and running a bit of the read option....looks good to me, particularly with the defense Shanahan never had in Washington.
If this was a total rebuild, I wouldn't be interested in Shanahan. It isn't a complete rebuild though. This is a talented team with a lot of the parts in place already to make Shanahans offense work.
If they can keep Vic around and make sure Shanahan stays away from the personnel dept, I'm all on board.
Ok I can understand that. My problem is why does he have to bring in his son along as OC if he becomes head coach? This is a conflict of interest. I'd rather hire Shanahan senior as OC.
Where does it say he would be bringing in his son?? And Cleveland can deny any interview for him as a OC, people need to really stop thinking that Kyle and Mike will be in SF next season....not going to happen.
And there is no way Mike comes in as OC...that is just ridiculous he could be a HC somewhere else.
That's my issue with Mike while I think he would throw out a great offense in the short term, I don't see him as a long term answer for SF and I don't see him not wanting control like he had in previous jobs.
Jan 5, 2015 at 12:53 PM
- crabman82
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Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by jimmythegreekjr:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by jimmythegreekjr:
Ok I can understand that. My problem is why does he have to bring in his son along as OC if he becomes head coach? This is a conflict of interest. I'd rather hire Shanahan senior as OC.
What on earth makes you think that he would ever accept an OC position.....
Norv Turner has after a couple times after he's been fired as HC. So has Gary Kubiak. and so has Todd Haly.. Many coordinators who have become head coaches
and gotten fired go back to their bread and butter after head coach stints. And Mike Shanahan is currently unemployed.
Mike Shanahan hasn't been an OC since 1994. Why would he do so now?
yeah IMO he is not comparable to kubiak, or turner. he looks like the type to try another shot at HC but if it doesnt come he is fine sitting back relaxing and enjoying his 2 sb's that he did win as a HC.
Jan 5, 2015 at 12:55 PM
- daragon
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I'm 100% in favor of Vic Fangio getting the job. He's exactly what our team needs in a leader. Read Cam's latest article on him. He hits the nail on the head.
Jan 5, 2015 at 12:56 PM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by jimmythegreekjr:
Norv Turner has after a couple times after he's been fired as HC. So has Gary Kubiak. and so has Todd Haly.. Many coordinators who have become head coaches
and gotten fired go back to their bread and butter after head coach stints. And Mike Shanahan is currently unemployed.
If he wanted to go that root he would have been a OC somewhere else this past season. He has stated that he wants to be a HC.
Jan 5, 2015 at 12:56 PM
- Marvin49
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Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Niners ain't the Redskins. The issues in Washington predate Shanahan and will exist long after today.
My reasons on being interested in Shanahan have everything to do with teaching Colin how to play QB in a more conventional way, but also understand how to develop mobile QBs in Young and RGIII. Yes, RGIII got hurt, but a lot of that is on RGIII himself. It's also worth mentioning that RGIII played well enough to be rookie of the year under Shanahan.
In addition to that, Shanahan has been able to put together a deadly rushing attack everywhere he's been. Check out these backs and their numbers under Shanahan....
BRONCOS:
Terrell Davis:
1995: 1117 yds, 7 TDs
1996: 1538 yds, 13 TDs
1997: 1750 yds, 15 TDs
1998: 2008 yds, 21 TDs
Olandis Gary:
1999: 1159 yds, 7 TDs
Mike Anderson:
2000: 1487 yds, 15 TDs
Mike Anderson and Terrell Davis shared:
2001: 1379 yds, 4 TDs
Clinton Portis:
2002: 1508 yds, 15 TDs
2003: 1591 yds, 14 TDs
Reuben Droughns
2004: 1240 yards, 6 TDs
Mike Anderson...again
2005: 1014 yds, 14 TDs
Tatum Bell
2006: 1025 yds, 2 TDs
Travis Henry and Selvin Young:
2007: 1420 yds, 5 TDs
in 2008, they had 3 guys over 300 yards
REDSKINS:
Ryan Torrain:
2010: 742 yds, 4TDs
Roy Helu:
2011: 640 yds, 2 TDs
Alfred Morris:
2012: 1613 yds, 13 TDs
2013: 1275 yds, 7 TDs
This ain't rocket science. There are some good back in there, but its the SYSTEM that really makes those guys good. I just picture Carlos Hyde running that zone-blocking scheme and it makes me happy. The return of the running game, huge cutback lanes to run in and getting Hyde in space.
Combine that with Kap improving (hopefully) and running a bit of the read option....looks good to me, particularly with the defense Shanahan never had in Washington.
If this was a total rebuild, I wouldn't be interested in Shanahan. It isn't a complete rebuild though. This is a talented team with a lot of the parts in place already to make Shanahans offense work.
If they can keep Vic around and make sure Shanahan stays away from the personnel dept, I'm all on board.
Good post. I'm on board with Shanahan, too, if your last sentence holds true.
Well....let me amend that.
I'd let Shanahan take whatever RB he likes in the draft.