Jim Tomsula FIRED thread

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
The melodramatic cries of woe.

Does that include stating that these were the worst consecutive beatings we've received since.......when?

Yep, short term they got their asses beat. Acting like long-term this franchise is just completely doomed is just silly. Every year we see teams that were good go bad, teams that were bad go good. Everything moves in cycles. All I'm hoping for is that this team can start getting it together, putting out some better effort and that the younger players step up. This could very well be a long year. I expected 6-8 wins at the beginning, we'll see how things shake out but this was never going to be a playoff year, anyone who believed that was deluding themselves.

Originally posted by dj43:
Time for a reality check.

Yes, my first choice for HC was Adam Gase, but he wasn't coming here. Blame whoever you want but that deal is done. Jim Tomsula is the head coach and we are all bitterly disappointed with the results of the past two weeks, but let's try too look a bit deeper at why this team is losing.

Tomsula did not let Mike Iupati walk. That was the result of HarBaalke deciding that Colin Kaepernick, a 2nd level college QB, was the future and that left no money for Iupati. Tomsula did not force Anthony Davis to take a year off. Injuries did that. Also, Tomsula did not cause Daniel Kilgore's recovery to more time than expected. Put those three pieces back in the OL and we have a very different situation. Instead we have a makeshift OL made up of two castoffs and a near rookie trying to block against two of the best defenses in the league. Not Jim Tomsula's fault.

Also, Jim Tomsula did not stomp on Patrick Willis' feet and force him to retire. Nor did he send Aldon Smith out on another drinking binge, nor did he tear some pages off Justin Smith's calendar. He didn't even smack Chris Borland upside the head causing a concussion. Other useful restoration projects like Chris Culliver and Perish Cox were told to look elsewhere. Jim Tomsula did not do any of that.

Jim Tomsula did not do any of those things that have individually and collectively decimated this football team. Jim Harbaugh used up the inventory of quality players on this team trying to win a championship with his college offense. He failed and acted like a 7th grader in the process, wearing out his welcome as he had done in prior stopovers. Now, due to injuries and retirement, the inventory has been depleted to the point the team is looking woeful.

None of this is the fault of the current head coach. The truth is, there is not much Tomsula, or any other HC that one might think of, can do to change the lack of quality talent on this team. All that is the result of what I noted above. All of it.

Now add in the fact that Pittsburgh (with a healthy Ben) is one of the top two teams in the AFC and Arizona will compete with Green Bay for top dog in the NFC. Our favorite team, with all this depletion of talent, has played, and been thumped by two of the very best teams in the league and some folks are blaming the head coach. Not realistic. Not realistic at all.

+1
Harbaugh went 8-8 with last year's squad and Kaep had some rough patches then too. This year's squad has less talent.
I do think there is decent talent, but obviously not enough.
Though I agree that Tomsula didn't create this situation, I will say that Tomsula and his staff needs to show me a bit more. I support the hire and thought he did some good things in the offseason (tempo). But I want to see more adjustments. Regardless of talent, the NFL is sink or swim; adapt and survive.

I didn't catch tomsulas presser. did he help?

Originally posted by GoldenJoe:

I like how he told Wright to basically stfu

He did? I missed this

Originally posted by GoldenJoe:

I like how he told Wright to basically stfu

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Prior to the game Wright was placed on the inactive list again, he responded by tweeting "politics as usual". JT responded that politics had nothing to do with it and that he was starting the guys who give us the best chance at winning.

Originally posted by GoldenJoe:
I like how he told Wright to basically stfu

Yep. That was a nice touch. Wright will be cut if his effort doesn't improve. You wanna play? Show it on the field. Politics? If it was about politics he would be playing since he has Top 2 CB salary on the team. Him not playing is the exact OPPOSITE of politics.

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:

Originally posted by communist:

Originally posted by valrod33:
Dude is cheap, Jed wont get rid of him any time soon.

Harbaugh was quite expensive. How does that fit your "Jed is cheap"-theory?

Well, he knew he needs to pay more to get a coach good enough to bring some respectability back to the franchise in order to build his new stadium and secure a Super Bowl bid. Once that was accomplished, he didn't want to continue paying that much, they never reached an extension, because a coach that makes it to 3 consecutive championships will cost even more. Now he has his guy.

If York actually still liked JH at all he'd still be the coach. The issue was never money, it was the clash of personalities.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
The melodramatic cries of woe.

Does that include stating that these were the worst consecutive beatings we've received since.......when?

Yep, short term they got their asses beat. Acting like long-term this franchise is just completely doomed is just silly. Every year we see teams that were good go bad, teams that were bad go good. Everything moves in cycles. All I'm hoping for is that this team can start getting it together, putting out some better effort and that the younger players step up. This could very well be a long year. I expected 6-8 wins at the beginning, we'll see how things shake out but this was never going to be a playoff year, anyone who believed that was deluding themselves.

I thought it could be a playoff year if things lined up just right and the ball bounced the right way. But the last two games derailed that possibility. Even if someone liked all the playcalls by the coaches (and I have my disappointments here, too), the self-inflicted mistakes - penalties, missed assignments, and turnovers - would have resulted in losses in both those games every time. You can't dig holes that big, that early on the road and expect to climb out of it. One Pick 6 in the 1st quarter you can come back from. Two? Way too demoralizing.

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Man, when I was in Iraq, I used to stay up late at night to watch the 49ers on AFN, even though I usually had to be up early the next morning. That was during the 2004 season. Come at me bro.

Thanks for the service man.

X2!

Tomsula is not a HC. Kap is not a starting QB. Cutting ties with them will happen sooner or later.

Tomsula is in over his head.

Originally posted by mayo49:
Tomsula is in over his head.

Big time. That's what happens when you hire the line cook to be the head chef. Any General Manager who goes to McDonald franchise training will tell you this.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Tomsula is in over his head.

Big time. That's what happens when you hire the line cook to be the head chef. Any General Manager who goes to McDonald franchise training will tell you this.

That's what they wanted, hope they're happy with him.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Tomsula is not a HC. Kap is not a starting QB. Cutting ties with them will happen sooner or later.

The sooner the better. We can't rebuild this team when we still have the wrong HC.

This was a bad hire. I thought the rumors last season were jokes, like they wouldn't seriously hire a D line coach to run the team. The players don't even seem to be playing hard for him. A big mess.