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Sep 28, 2015 at 11:15 AM
- susweel
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Im very disappointed is what has transpired in the two previous games. Head coach Tomsula appears to be in way over his head the team has not been prepared to play mentally and strategically. The league has figured out our offense in one game and Jeep seems to have no answers. Also the offensive line is the worst in the NFL I believe and that limits what plays can be called. The defense is just clueless with awful game plans from Mangini. This appears to be the worst team in the NFL right now and I dont see it getting any time soon. This is even worse than I anticipated.
Sep 28, 2015 at 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Tomsula is not a HC. Kap is not a starting QB. Cutting ties with them will happen sooner or later.
Truer words have never been spoken.
Sep 28, 2015 at 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by susweel:
Im very disappointed is what has transpired in the two previous games. Head coach Tomsula appears to be in way over his head the team has not been prepared to play mentally and strategically. The league has figured out our offense in one game and Jeep seems to have no answers. Also the offensive line is the worst in the NFL I believe and that limits what plays can be called. The defense is just clueless with awful game plans from Mangini. This appears to be the worst team in the NFL right now and I dont see it getting any time soon. This is even worse than I anticipated.
Good post, sus.
Sep 28, 2015 at 11:18 AM
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Kap is fine. RW through 4 picks in the NFC championship game and IIRC Luck did so in a playoff game against the Chiefs. Peyton has throw 2 pick6's this year too. Eli Manning... throws a ton of picks. Brett Farve is the all-time leader in interceptions.
Kap isn't normally interception prone so he's allowed to have a game or two like this every now and then. You guys are treating him like he's Jay Cutler
Kap isn't normally interception prone so he's allowed to have a game or two like this every now and then. You guys are treating him like he's Jay Cutler
Sep 28, 2015 at 11:20 AM
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I think the judgments regarding Tomsula are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too premature. Three games is far too small of sample size. You got to see how he continues to respond. Yes, the initial response was a disaster, but Tomsula didn't throw two Pick 6's in the first 10 mins of the game and blow up any chance to counter the Pittsburgh game immediately.
This'll be a fascinating week to watch. Tomsula is a trenches guy, so you know he recognizes how terrible the lines have played. I don't think it's coincidence that Easton was finally active yesterday.
This'll be a fascinating week to watch. Tomsula is a trenches guy, so you know he recognizes how terrible the lines have played. I don't think it's coincidence that Easton was finally active yesterday.
Sep 28, 2015 at 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by captveg:
I think the judgments regarding Tomsula are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too premature.
I agree with that. I'm not sure how you blame Tomsula for Kaepernick having the most nightmarish game of his career.
Sep 28, 2015 at 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by captveg:
I think the judgments regarding Tomsula are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too premature. Three games is far too small of sample size. You got to see how he continues to respond. Yes, the initial response was a disaster, but Tomsula didn't throw two Pick 6's in the first 10 mins of the game and blow up any chance to counter the Pittsburgh game immediately.
This'll be a fascinating week to watch. Tomsula is a trenches guy, so you know he recognizes how terrible the lines have played. I don't think it's coincidence that Easton was finally active yesterday.
Actually its not when the previous two games are over by half time and giving up 90 points. The only question now is if he lasts the full season or not. I say he lasts the entire season and we tank for a top pick and maybe draft QB Goff and hopefully Jed can make a better decision on the next HC.
Sep 28, 2015 at 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by crake49:
Originally posted by captveg:
I think the judgments regarding Tomsula are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too premature.
I agree with that. I'm not sure how you blame Tomsula for Kaepernick having the most nightmarish game of his career.
It must just be a coincidence.
Sep 28, 2015 at 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by susweel:
Actually its not when the previous two games are over by half time and giving up 90 points. The only question now is if he lasts the full season or not. I say he lasts the entire season and we tank for a top pick and maybe draft QB Goff and hopefully Jed can make a better decision on the next HC.
Considering you judged him as in over his head before the season started I don't see your point of view as a rational one. I like to have more than three games to go by.
Sep 28, 2015 at 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by susweel:
Actually its not when the previous two games are over by half time and giving up 90 points. The only question now is if he lasts the full season or not. I say he lasts the entire season and we tank for a top pick and maybe draft QB Goff and hopefully Jed can make a better decision on the next HC.
Considering you judged him as in over his head before the season started I don't see your point of view as a rational one. I like to have more than three games to go by.
Yeah he was absolutely correct with his judgement, therefore, its not rational.
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Sep 28, 2015 at 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by susweel:
Actually its not when the previous two games are over by half time and giving up 90 points. The only question now is if he lasts the full season or not. I say he lasts the entire season and we tank for a top pick and maybe draft QB Goff and hopefully Jed can make a better decision on the next HC.
Considering you judged him as in over his head before the season started I don't see your point of view as a rational one. I like to have more than three games to go by.
Okay you can a few more ass whippings before you come to the same conclusion. lol
Sep 28, 2015 at 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by captveg:
I think the judgments regarding Tomsula are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too premature. Three games is far too small of sample size. You got to see how he continues to respond. Yes, the initial response was a disaster, but Tomsula didn't throw two Pick 6's in the first 10 mins of the game and blow up any chance to counter the Pittsburgh game immediately.
This'll be a fascinating week to watch. Tomsula is a trenches guy, so you know he recognizes how terrible the lines have played. I don't think it's coincidence that Easton was finally active yesterday.
Actually its not when the previous two games are over by half time and giving up 90 points. The only question now is if he lasts the full season or not. I say he lasts the entire season and we tank for a top pick and maybe draft QB Goff and hopefully Jed can make a better decision on the next HC.
I think you both have valid points, but Sus was also straight on with players who essentially quit on Jimmy T. yesterday. I've never seen a team come out so flat and so unprepared. At least they showed some fight against Pittsburgh. But absolutely none against Phoenix.
If Jimmy T. has lost the players and they continue to quit on him like this, his career will be a short one indeed.
Sep 28, 2015 at 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by crake49:
Originally posted by captveg:
I think the judgments regarding Tomsula are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too premature.
I agree with that. I'm not sure how you blame Tomsula for Kaepernick having the most nightmarish game of his career.
It must just be a coincidence.
I understand any concerns about anything Niners right now, but really. In this particular case, you've got to admit that Kaepernick having the worst game of his life and just sucking bad is the main thing that happened yesterday. The only thing I'll say is that Walsh pulled Montana when he was playing that badly and Seifert pulled Young for the same reason. I kind of wanted to see Tomsula tell him to sit down, shake it off, let Gabbert take over and come back strong next week.
Sep 28, 2015 at 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by billbird2111:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by captveg:
I think the judgments regarding Tomsula are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too premature. Three games is far too small of sample size. You got to see how he continues to respond. Yes, the initial response was a disaster, but Tomsula didn't throw two Pick 6's in the first 10 mins of the game and blow up any chance to counter the Pittsburgh game immediately.
This'll be a fascinating week to watch. Tomsula is a trenches guy, so you know he recognizes how terrible the lines have played. I don't think it's coincidence that Easton was finally active yesterday.
Actually its not when the previous two games are over by half time and giving up 90 points. The only question now is if he lasts the full season or not. I say he lasts the entire season and we tank for a top pick and maybe draft QB Goff and hopefully Jed can make a better decision on the next HC.
I think you both have valid points, but Sus was also straight on with players who essentially quit on Jimmy T. yesterday. I've never seen a team come out so flat and so unprepared. At least they showed some fight against Pittsburgh. But absolutely none against Phoenix.
If Jimmy T. has lost the players and they continue to quit on him like this, his career will be a short one indeed.
I saw Boldin yelling at him in the first quarter.
Sep 28, 2015 at 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by crake49:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by crake49:
Originally posted by captveg:
I think the judgments regarding Tomsula are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too premature.
I agree with that. I'm not sure how you blame Tomsula for Kaepernick having the most nightmarish game of his career.
It must just be a coincidence.
I understand any concerns about anything Niners right now, but really. In this particular case, you've got to admit that Kaepernick having the worst game of his life and just sucking bad is the main thing that happened yesterday. The only thing I'll say is that Walsh pulled Montana when he was playing that badly and Seifert pulled Young for the same reason. I kind of wanted to see Tomsula tell him to sit down, shake it off, let Gabbert take over and come back strong next week.
I'm saying Kapernick's struggle have A LOT to do with a Tomsula, Geep and the Logan zone as evidenced that this is his worst game by far in 4 years. That isn't a coincidence..
Geepsula didn't do him any favors and neither did Baalke with this piss poor OL and amateur coaching staff.