Jim Tomsula FIRED thread

The sad part is he isn't an expert on either side of the ball, so he doesn't know how to fix this or even what play calls or type of defense and offense are better.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by PA49ersfan:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by PA49ersfan:

Originally posted by RonMexico:

Originally posted by susweel:
Jim Tomsula on #49ers offense, "We're not going to stop the other team from scoring. We're not built that way. We're not built like other teams...


smh

what?

What the h@ll is going on? I hate that all the "experts" are starting to be correct about the doom and gloom. Oh well lived through this before. I'll survive again.

They're haters. Only zoners and matt maiocco follow the team closely.

I know. But i blame a lot of zoners for making me believe we still might be good. Lol.

Lol i was being sarcasric.

its cool. We all are going through this mess together. Again.

Originally posted by PA49ersfan:

Originally posted by RonMexico:

Originally posted by susweel:
Jim Tomsula on #49ers offense, "We're not going to stop the other team from scoring. We're not built that way. We're not built like other teams...


smh

what?

What the h@ll is going on? I hate that all the "experts" are starting to be correct about the doom and gloom. Oh well lived through this before. I'll survive again.

Do you really have to be an expert to predict that?

What if the Seahawks lost:

Pete Carroll
Marshawn Lynch
Bobby Wagner
Michael Bennett
Brandon Mebane
Richard Sherman
Cliff Avril
KJ Wright
Doug Baldwin
Russell Okung

all in one off-season?
What would your average fan say?

Originally posted by NorthBay49er:

Originally posted by captveg:
Here's the full quotes for those that didn't listen to the press conference or who only read the short tweet quote:

"Yes, there's less volume but there's a lot of concepts. It's still a hefty amount of plays on the call sheet. We're not a drop-back team, we're not built that way. We're not comparing ourselves to those teams. We're not built to be first- and second-down empty and spreading the ball out all over the place. We're built more with our tight ends. We like the tight-end group. We like to use formations that get us some air when we need air. My perspective is playing to our strengths."

On Kap as a drop-back under center passer:

"You know, his development as a pocket passer.... in terms of Colin reading and looking at things and studying, I think he's doing a nice job there working at it, ok? In terms of us as a team and as a whole offense -- our drop-back pass game, we need to be better at and we need to improve on. But that goes from the snap to the blocking to the routes that we're running to throwing the football. So I think as a whole we need to work on that."

Thanks for posting this

makes even more sense now that we brought in torrey smith, a player who made his entire career from being thrown to deep

Originally posted by fortyninerglory:

Originally posted by PA49ersfan:

Originally posted by RonMexico:

Originally posted by susweel:
Jim Tomsula on #49ers offense, "We're not going to stop the other team from scoring. We're not built that way. We're not built like other teams...


smh

what?

What the h@ll is going on? I hate that all the "experts" are starting to be correct about the doom and gloom. Oh well lived through this before. I'll survive again.

Do you really have to be an expert to predict that?

What if the Seahawks lost:

Pete Carroll
Marshawn Lynch
Bobby Wagner
Michael Bennett
Brandon Mebane
Richard Sherman
Cliff Avril
KJ Wright
Doug Baldwin
Russell Okung

all in one off-season?
What would your average fan say?

a idiot average fan like me thought we still had a good shot at being competitive. As of now i was wrong.

Originally posted by PA49ersfan:

What the h@ll is going on? I hate that all the "experts" are starting to be correct about the doom and gloom. Oh well lived through this before. I'll survive again.

We're only two games in. It doesn't take an expert to look at a painful off-season and complete rebuilding to predict teething problems early on. The problems are fixable.

Originally posted by RonMexico:
makes even more sense now that we brought in torrey smith, a player who made his entire career from being thrown to deep

They certainly want to use Torrey to open the field up. And you can do that without being an empty backfield offense. In fact Torrey already made a difference in both the Vikings and Steelers game in this regard. Now, that won't make up for having other problems, but it's not like the team would be any better without Torrey Smith, no?

Originally posted by susweel:
Jim Tomsula on #49ers offense, "We're not going to stop the other team from scoring. We're not built that way. We're not built like other teams...


smh

Oh wow. We are dead before we even begin.

So we go from praising him against the Vikings, to two weeks later, placing the blame on his shoulders?

You guys do realize we were playing a super bowl contender, on the road, and we spotted the 14 points on our first two possessions? How well did you expect the game to go after that?

He is a rookie HC. How about we give him some time before we castrate him after going through the toughest two game road stand of any NFL team.

"There's 13 games left to play. We're not getting 53 new players. We're not getting 24 new coaches in here. We're either going to find the solutions to these problems or not. We're either going to stick together or not. This is not the time for me to panic."

Dolphins coach Joe Philbin (but it could just as well been Jimmy T.)

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
So we go from praising him against the Vikings, to two weeks later, placing the blame on his shoulders?

You guys do realize we were playing a super bowl contender, on the road, and we spotted the 14 points on our first two possessions? How well did you expect the game to go after that?

He is a rookie HC. How about we give him some time before we castrate him after going through the toughest two game road stand of any NFL team.

Him being a rookie HC did not cause the quarterback to throw 4 INTs.

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
So we go from praising him against the Vikings, to two weeks later, placing the blame on his shoulders?

You guys do realize we were playing a super bowl contender, on the road, and we spotted the 14 points on our first two possessions? How well did you expect the game to go after that?

He is a rookie HC. How about we give him some time before we castrate him after going through the toughest two game road stand of any NFL team.

I just wanted to see a team improve from the previous week's disaster. DID NOT HAPPEN AT ANY LEVEL.

Originally posted by dj43:
Time for a reality check.

Yes, my first choice for HC was Adam Gase, but he wasn't coming here. Blame whoever you want but that deal is done. Jim Tomsula is the head coach and we are all bitterly disappointed with the results of the past two weeks, but let's try too look a bit deeper at why this team is losing.

Tomsula did not let Mike Iupati walk. That was the result of HarBaalke deciding that Colin Kaepernick, a 2nd level college QB, was the future and that left no money for Iupati. Tomsula did not force Anthony Davis to take a year off. Injuries did that. Also, Tomsula did not cause Daniel Kilgore's recovery to more time than expected. Put those three pieces back in the OL and we have a very different situation. Instead we have a makeshift OL made up of two castoffs and a near rookie trying to block against two of the best defenses in the league. Not Jim Tomsula's fault.

Also, Jim Tomsula did not stomp on Patrick Willis' feet and force him to retire. Nor did he send Aldon Smith out on another drinking binge, nor did he tear some pages off Justin Smith's calendar. He didn't even smack Chris Borland upside the head causing a concussion. Other useful restoration projects like Chris Culliver and Perish Cox were told to look elsewhere. Jim Tomsula did not do any of that.

Jim Tomsula did not do any of those things that have individually and collectively decimated this football team. Jim Harbaugh used up the inventory of quality players on this team trying to win a championship with his college offense. He failed and acted like a 7th grader in the process, wearing out his welcome as he had done in prior stopovers. Now, due to injuries and retirement, the inventory has been depleted to the point the team is looking woeful.

None of this is the fault of the current head coach. The truth is, there is not much Tomsula, or any other HC that one might think of, can do to change the lack of quality talent on this team. All that is the result of what I noted above. All of it.

Now add in the fact that Pittsburgh (with a healthy Ben) is one of the top two teams in the AFC and Arizona will compete with Green Bay for top dog in the NFC. Our favorite team, with all this depletion of talent, has played, and been thumped by two of the very best teams in the league and some folks are blaming the head coach. Not realistic. Not realistic at all.

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
So we go from praising him against the Vikings, to two weeks later, placing the blame on his shoulders?

You guys do realize we were playing a super bowl contender, on the road, and we spotted the 14 points on our first two possessions? How well did you expect the game to go after that?

He is a rookie HC. How about we give him some time before we castrate him after going through the toughest two game road stand of any NFL team.

I like Jmmy T. but not crazy about his staff and way too much loss of players this offseason. Jimmy really needed to be a DC for a few years.

I was mostly concerned with the o-line and jesus i was right about that. We are in a brutal defensive division and have a very tough schedule. My attitude was to expect pain. Problem is they aren't losing, they are being annihilated. Players will drop support fast. Its a train wreck in this scenario.

This is why i just snickered at people who are happy we fired Harbaugh. They didn't care about his end results, they were more concerned he screamed at a ref. No way we were going to be as successful.

This is a young team and a s**t show of a coaches. My hope is that as the season progresses the coaches and players get better. Please play the young guys. we will find talent.