Jim Tomsula FIRED thread

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Maybe giving Harbaugh full control wouldnt have been that bad after all? We were done early in both games. No disrespect to the body work that he has put in but Jt just doesnt seem to be our guy. That dumb look on his face, is not a look i want to see from my leader on a ball club. I hope we can turn things around but that bewildered look on his face tells me, doesnt give me that reassurance the we can bounce back. There is no way Rodgers is going to let up on us this week.

the messiah victim coach from last year had a glazed look on his face throughout most of last year . people are really out of control with their hate for the coach,, b***hing about what he wears, what he looks like etc. if the team does turn things around i really hope we remember all those who have found absolute delight in the piling on of this team, coaches and players we have seen as of late. in some quarters we have the coach fired, rathman as the coach, ck gone, "gabby" as the qb and a couple of posters as gm cuz they know they can do a better job. it is beyond pathetic how so many have declared this team dead with only the time and date of the funeral to be announced.

Another Class post, for real man. I concur completely...

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Maybe giving Harbaugh full control wouldnt have been that bad after all? We were done early in both games. No disrespect to the body work that he has put in but Jt just doesnt seem to be our guy. That dumb look on his face, is not a look i want to see from my leader on a ball club. I hope we can turn things around but that bewildered look on his face tells me, doesnt give me that reassurance the we can bounce back. There is no way Rodgers is going to let up on us this week.

the messiah victim coach from last year had a glazed look on his face throughout most of last year . people are really out of control with their hate for the coach,, b***hing about what he wears, what he looks like etc. if the team does turn things around i really hope we remember all those who have found absolute delight in the piling on of this team, coaches and players we have seen as of late. in some quarters we have the coach fired, rathman as the coach, ck gone, "gabby" as the qb and a couple of posters as gm cuz they know they can do a better job. it is beyond pathetic how so many have declared this team dead with only the time and date of the funeral to be announced.

So by the same logic you're using, you should be just as ready to admit when this debacle of a season has turned into a disaster. Jim Harbaugh was certainly not a messiah, but nobody confused him with being an inept coach. You can't criticize fans for pointing out when someone appears to be in over their head. I've enjoyed the glory days of the 80s and being a dynasty. I suffered through the 2000s and the fumbling of every decision. I embraced the brief resurrection to the top. And now all signs are pointing to a return to desolation. I won't hold back on criticism of my team and neither will I hold back on praise. I'm going to call it like I see it and I won't throw my fellow fans under the bus for it.

Originally posted by bors:
Thebummer is if we lose tonsils as head coach next year. We also lose him as our d line coach. Oh jimmy why you make like icuras

That was my worry when they made him head coach. If it doesn't work he winds up somewhere like Seattle or Green Bay and helps develop their DL.

Originally posted by Stud:

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:

Anyone calling for Tomsulas head has simply wanted him to fail from day one. Period. You don't start calling for the head of a rookie HC three games into the toughest starting schedule of any NFL team this season. Anyone doing so is doing so out of spite and for no other reason.

Lets not forget Harbaugh was 1-2 to start last season losing to the bears AT HOME! That was a much more talented roster.

We just finished a very tough two game road trip against two of the very best teams in the NFL. Lets let the season play out.

This is such an over played cliche. We didn't just lose to 2 playoff teams, were were absolutely slaughtered. Terrible teams get slaughtered. The players had no clue what to do because they are horribly coached. Comparing it to last year when we went 1-2, losing in competitive games is ridiculous.Terrible comparison. If you enjoy this type of football, then all power to you if you want to defend the coaching staff. I will not. Tomsula's lack of experience is clearly evident. I don't expect much from this year.

We allegedly had an expectation for super bowls so in no way are we are going to lower the bar THAT MUCH where its ok to get demolished in the first two quarters in two straight game and I don't care who we are playing.

Sometimes a blown call or mistKe here or there can cost you a tight game. What we are seeing is mistake after mistake after mistake to the point where its over by half time.

No way is this acceptable.

Coach T should take a note from Mike McCarthy....ARodgers isn't getting more than 1.5-1.8 secs to thow either, so what has McCarthy had Rodgers do? Throw quick hitters, less than 1.5 seconds, many of them. I thot it was agreed that was going to be our game plan this yr. Also something like 65+% of Rodgers passes are 5 yds or less. Does that situation sound familiar, ie an OL that can't pass block? So, their HC coached around an OL that doesn't do pass blocking, and lo and behold rodgers is the best qb in the league or tied w/ brady. So why can't Coach T demand we go quick bang bang passes, meaning most will be short range? If Rodgers can do it, then kap can.

The other bothersome thing is before first game there was a lot a emphasis put on having kap throw from multiple launch pads. Worked well in game 1 and then? Never saw it again. JT if you are looking for a place to start , there are 2 right there. Quick hitters, and move kap around to throw....calling plays where he throws from the pocket...off his back foot....not a good choice. So get going on those two ideas like yesterday.

One other thing that i wondered about. The guys all liked JT because he wisely ran an easier PS camp, no injuries. (or few). But could it be that his "go easy" resulted in guys not really gut checking and getting their routes, blocks, moves down pat? Because if so, then that has to change. The idea of kap taking 17 snaps in 4 PS games was a colossal goof up, right down harbaw's lane. Good gracious, if anybody needed snaps it was kap. So there you go, JT, have at it.

If you want more suggestions, stay tuned. After all the complaints, thot you might want something constructive.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by Viperboy:
Hopefully it gets better, But the owners son said "this is our Steve Keer move ". Ah no.

The problem is that there is no Jerry West in the organization and Baalke is no Myers.
There was also no Knicks competing for Tomsula

Yup. IMO Harbaugh was Kerr, not Tomsula. Jed is so out of touch, it's unreal.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Coach T should take a note from Mike McCarthy....ARodgers isn't getting more than 1.5-1.8 secs to thow either, so what has McCarthy had Rodgers do? Throw quick hitters, less than 1.5 seconds, many of them. I thot it was agreed that was going to be our game plan this yr. Also something like 65+% of Rodgers passes are 5 yds or less. Does that situation sound familiar, ie an OL that can't pass block? So, their HC coached around an OL that doesn't do pass blocking, and lo and behold rodgers is the best qb in the league or tied w/ brady. So why can't Coach T demand we go quick bang bang passes, meaning most will be short range? If Rodgers can do it, then kap can.

The other bothersome thing is before first game there was a lot a emphasis put on having kap throw from multiple launch pads. Worked well in game 1 and then? Never saw it again. JT if you are looking for a place to start , there are 2 right there. Quick hitters, and move kap around to throw....calling plays where he throws from the pocket...off his back foot....not a good choice. So get going on those two ideas like yesterday.

One other thing that i wondered about. The guys all liked JT because he wisely ran an easier PS camp, no injuries. (or few). But could it be that his "go easy" resulted in guys not really gut checking and getting their routes, blocks, moves down pat? Because if so, then that has to change. The idea of kap taking 17 snaps in 4 PS games was a colossal goof up, right down harbaw's lane. Good gracious, if anybody needed snaps it was kap. So there you go, JT, have at it.

If you want more suggestions, stay tuned. After all the complaints, thot you might want something constructive.

Rogers brain is processing where to go with the ball faster and quicker so that has a lot to do with it. Same thing with Manning, Brady and Brees and the better QBs. They can instantly read a coverage while dropping back and hit the correct WR while feeling the pressure all at the same time. They know where everyone is at all times and keep their eyes downfield while moving and adjusting in the pockets. The great ones can also see what's coming before the snap and make subtle signals to the WR or even sometimes they don't even need to communicate because the QB knows the veteran WR is reading the same thing before the snap. We saw Arog do it a few times MNF.

Kap needs to learn all this over time somehow. Tomsula, Geep and Logan need to teach him. This is the crappy part.

Mario Kart Jeremy might as well let Tom Rathman get some practice as offensive coordinator, ask Justin Smith to call plays on defense... can't be any worse than what we have now. They need practice / experience. Tummysula might learn a thing or two... NO, SERIOUSLY!

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Rogers brain is processing where to go with the ball faster and quicker so that has a lot to do with it. Same thing with Manning, Brady and Brees and the better QBs. They can't instantly read a coverage while dropping back and hit the correct WR while feeling the pressure all at the same time. They know where everyone is at all times and keep their eyes downfield while moving and adjusting in the pockets. The great ones can also see what's coming before the snap and make subtle signals to the WR or even sometimes they don't even need to communicate because the QB knows the veteran WR is reading the same thing before the snap. We saw Arog do it a few times MNF.

Kap needs to learn all this over time somehow. Tomsula, Geep and Logan need to teach him. This is the crappy part.

"Tomsula, Geep and Logan need to teach him"

You're cute. But mostly funny

Originally posted by deviledEgg:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Rogers brain is processing where to go with the ball faster and quicker so that has a lot to do with it. Same thing with Manning, Brady and Brees and the better QBs. They can instantly read a coverage while dropping back and hit the correct WR while feeling the pressure all at the same time. They know where everyone is at all times and keep their eyes downfield while moving and adjusting in the pockets. The great ones can also see what's coming before the snap and make subtle signals to the WR or even sometimes they don't even need to communicate because the QB knows the veteran WR is reading the same thing before the snap. We saw Arog do it a few times MNF.

Kap needs to learn all this over time somehow. Tomsula, Geep and Logan need to teach him. This is the crappy part.

"Tomsula, Geep and Logan need to teach him"

You're cute. But mostly funny

haha

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
haha

Don't know too much about JT as a coach obviously.
But as a person, he seems pretty descent. To say after the Cardinals game that it starts and ends with himself is pretty ballsy rather then just blame the players.


I say give him a chance.


Edit: Him a chance. Not me. Bloody little keys on phone...

Jimmy T needs to lay the smack down this week at training

Originally posted by cciowa:

the messiah victim coach from last year had a glazed look on his face throughout most of last year . people are really out of control with their hate for the coach,, b***hing about what he wears, what he looks like etc. if the team does turn things around i really hope we remember all those who have found absolute delight in the piling on of this team, coaches and players we have seen as of late. in some quarters we have the coach fired, rathman as the coach, ck gone, "gabby" as the qb and a couple of posters as gm cuz they know they can do a better job. it is beyond pathetic how so many have declared this team dead with only the time and date of the funeral to be announced.

Tentatively scheduled for 10/4/15 @ 7:00 at Grace Cathederal in San Ftancisco.... if San Francisco won't have them.... Then it will be @ 5:00 PM at Great America in the area adjacent to the Drop Zone....

Feel bad for the guy, doesn't have the same roster that the previous coach had. He's going to have to take his lumps, questions whether he's the right man for the job, etc.

I'd like to see what he could do with better talent and coordinators, but impatient fans want immediate results (and don't take this as someone making excuses, because I really wasn't a fan of the hiring, but was/still willing to give him a chance).