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Originally posted by 49erfaninPA:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
Ryan Sakamoto ‏@SakamotoRyan 4m4 minutes ago
Ryan Sakamoto Retweeted Steve Baker

I'm hearing that #49ers head coach Jim Tomsula will stay at least for start of 2016. But nothing official yet.





Sounds about right. Tomsula will stick around, get fired halfway through 2016, interim coach will take over, interim coach will win 2 or 3 games, interim coach will be made full head coach and will last another 2 seasons.

By 2019 this team should be looking for a serious coaching candidate.

Sadly this all sounds accurate.

Yeah, this is what I've anticipated all along. I know so many around here have been clamoring for a firing, but let's face it -- does anyone deep down honestly believe that'll happen? I accepted a while ago that even with massive blowouts late in the year to bottom-feeder teams, it appeared there was NOTHING that would get JT canned. Too many "built in" excuses and a barrage of pathetic "fallback BS reasonings" to offer up as if they're some acceptable explanations for how the season went.

JT isn't going to be fired. I 100% guarantee it. Even if we got shutout. It won't happen.
Originally posted by strickac:
Originally posted by WashDCNinerFan:
He is gone by Monday..

This. There's no way you win 4 games, get spanked by Cleveland and Detriot, lose your final 4 games, and get to keep your job.

Firing JT before the final game wouldn't solve anything. We start fresh Monday. It's the right thing to do.

Maby, but Hopefully they do the best thing for our team...
Originally posted by strickac:
This. There's no way you win 4 games, get spanked by Cleveland and Detriot, lose your final 4 games, and get to keep your job.

Firing JT before the final game wouldn't solve anything. We start fresh Monday. It's the right thing to do.

The thing that bugs me the most about our 4 wins is that three out of four of them were practically flukes. Well... the Ravens game we were definitely the better team especially due to their defensive injuries, but still they missed a normal-length FG during the game and were in FG range at the end of the game so that tells you something. We beat the Falcons by one point when they made the idiotic decision to kick a FG at the end instead of go for the TD. And don't even get me started on the Bears game. We owned them in OT, but in regulation they missed not one, but TWO short FG's.

Ugh. All these FG's inflating our record. They may have felt good as they happened and any other season I would be thankful for them. But when they're the only way to win with Tomsula... that should tell you something.

The opener against the Vikings with Carlos Hyde, and the Ravens game to me were really our only quality, legitimate wins this season. Part of me wants the Vikings to lose tomorrow and then go one-and-down in the playoffs just to make Tomsula's resume for returning look even worse.

Tomorrow is the first game in awhile where I actually kind of want us to lose... I admit I kind of wanted us to lose the home game to the Cardinals too just to keep Seattle from winning the division (turns out they didn't even need that win all that much), but if losing to the Todd Gurley-less Rams at home by a convincing amount in front of a sparse crowd is enough to make Tomsula look bad, so be it. Obviously, I won't cheer at all if we get dumped on (I didn't cheer at all when the Cardinals beat us earlier this year) but I'll just think about Jed York and what he's going to say every time the Rams make a play tomorrow.
Originally posted by fropwns:
If true, I have already resigned myself to take the year off. Love the Niners, but you should never love an organization so blindly after they have repeatedly demonstrated an inability to get out of their own way.

The love needs to go both ways. The team needs to do their part.
Originally posted by harkenthegoldenyears:
Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
What's worse than Jed not firing JT until later in the yr when all the good coaches are gone and that is what burned us This past yr...Jed couldn't make a decision until all the good talent was tied up. And you know who we got...the big nothing.

And he will continue to use some flimsy excuses to keep JT around another year or two, because he can always count on the fans to come back when the games start up again.

I would normally agree, but the last few home games everyone talked about how few fans were in the seats. I mean, the announcers were ripping on the attendance throughout the game.
this is the one thing that could get tomsula fired. if the fans have given up already the owner needs to make a move to get people excited about this team for next year. if tomsula is brought back the niners will be playing to an empty house all year next year
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Originally posted by SFTifoso:
Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
Ryan Sakamoto ‏@SakamotoRyan 4m4 minutes ago
Ryan Sakamoto Retweeted Steve Baker

I'm hearing that #49ers head coach Jim Tomsula will stay at least for start of 2016. But nothing official yet.




If this is true. I'm out. This teams belongs to the Yorks. Let them do whatever they want with it. Once they sell the team or appoint a competent person to run I will return. The Yorks are the problem. It'll be a decade or so for them to realize that, so I will turn a new page in my life in the mean time.

I don't like any other American sports, so I'll be looking forward to the pro cycling season (Tour de France, Giro d'Italia, etc.) and Formula 1. Instead of giving my money to the Yorks, I will spend that money to go see the US Grand Prix in Austin, TX. Those guys always put on a show, and my favorite team (Ferrari) actually has a passion for winning, and heads roll when it doesn't happen. Something the Yorks have none of.

The San Francisco 49ers belong to Eddie, this is the Santa Clara Yorks.

Yep, I will be out too. Tackle Warehouse will be receiving a huge order form me as I will be spending my Sundays fishing and going full force on college ball on Saturdays instead as far as football is concerned. The rest of the time will be spent on my other sports namely F1, MotoGP, WSBK, that's about it.
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by harkenthegoldenyears:
Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
What's worse than Jed not firing JT until later in the yr when all the good coaches are gone and that is what burned us This past yr...Jed couldn't make a decision until all the good talent was tied up. And you know who we got...the big nothing.

And he will continue to use some flimsy excuses to keep JT around another year or two, because he can always count on the fans to come back when the games start up again.

I would normally agree, but the last few home games everyone talked about how few fans were in the seats. I mean, the announcers were ripping on the attendance throughout the game.
this is the one thing that could get tomsula fired. if the fans have given up already the owner needs to make a move to get people excited about this team for next year. if tomsula is brought back the niners will be playing to an empty house all year next year

I agree with this. I hate Kawakami but his article on the front page along with the SI article makes sense. There have been no leaks really about what is going to happen only speculation. Kawakami believes that York is torn between firing Baalke or Tomsula and there is a sort of a civil war going on in 49er HQ between their supporters. He believes Baalke will prevail and Tomsula will get fired. The SI article states that York has to do something to get the fan base excited again for next year. The empty seats in Levi's is making a statement that the fans will not support this regime. I totally believe this. I think Tomsula has to go, if nothing else, to make a statement that what happened this season is unacceptable. But York and Baalke need to remember what they learned this season from the failed hiring. 1) don't shove a coach down a potential candidates throat, it won't end well. 2) You thought they would have learned this but don't promote position coaches directly to Head Coach 3) Don't promote a position coach to offensive and defensive coordinator, unless they are really good at their current positions. 4) Don't let pride get in your way of building and maintaining success.Do the right thing and fire who needs to be fired. put your fkn personal feelings aside and do whats good for the franchise for once damnit!!.
Originally posted by Rascal:
Yep, I will be out too. Tackle Warehouse will be receiving a huge order form me as I will be spending my Sundays fishing and going full force on college ball on Saturdays instead as far as football is concerned. The rest of the time will be spent on my other sports namely F1, MotoGP, WSBK, that's about it.

Rossi vs Marquez will be interesting. Rossi literally just took him out, what a dick lol
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
The thing that bugs me the most about our 4 wins is that three out of four of them were practically flukes. Well... the Ravens game we were definitely the better team especially due to their defensive injuries, but still they missed a normal-length FG during the game and were in FG range at the end of the game so that tells you something. We beat the Falcons by one point when they made the idiotic decision to kick a FG at the end instead of go for the TD. And don't even get me started on the Bears game. We owned them in OT, but in regulation they missed not one, but TWO short FG's.

Ugh. All these FG's inflating our record. They may have felt good as they happened and any other season I would be thankful for them. But when they're the only way to win with Tomsula... that should tell you something.

The opener against the Vikings with Carlos Hyde, and the Ravens game to me were really our only quality, legitimate wins this season. Part of me wants the Vikings to lose tomorrow and then go one-and-down in the playoffs just to make Tomsula's resume for returning look even worse.

Tomorrow is the first game in awhile where I actually kind of want us to lose... I admit I kind of wanted us to lose the home game to the Cardinals too just to keep Seattle from winning the division (turns out they didn't even need that win all that much), but if losing to the Todd Gurley-less Rams at home by a convincing amount in front of a sparse crowd is enough to make Tomsula look bad, so be it. Obviously, I won't cheer at all if we get dumped on (I didn't cheer at all when the Cardinals beat us earlier this year) but I'll just think about Jed York and what he's going to say every time the Rams make a play tomorrow.

I want a loss today too. I hate being in that position, but a win today could give York enough justification to decide in favor of JT. Finishing a season with some momentum is the phase they'll echo. I'm just hoping for a clean break after the season, then we start a full-on rebuild.

We need some quality coaching that can bring good systems to provide some continuity. We can't go back to the dark ages where it a different inept coach every couple years, who is just trying to hang on and rule as an authoritarian. We need smart, (young is ideal) coaches that can gameplan and ensure our players are prepared on game day. We get the impression that the team doesn't work hard during the week and they revert to walk throughs and some light work a few times a week. The result is a team that is anxious, jumping offsides repeatedly, with poor fundamental tackling, no chemistry blocking as a line, frequent dropped passes, and the list goes on. We need a coach that holds people accountable and can be a figure that players believe in. This season, everyone knew the ship was sinking and many of them were just going through the motions.

We need change in the worst way. Hopefully it starts in the coming days, but a loss to the Rams may be what's needed to force York's hand.
[ Edited by strickac on Jan 3, 2016 at 4:27 AM ]
Per a league source, G.M. Trent Baalke is expected to return. Coach Jim Tomsula is expected to be fired.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/01/03/49ers-are-expected-to-keep-baalke-dump-tomsula/
Finally. Let's get an offensive minded HC!
Originally posted by genz22:
Finally. Let's get an offensive minded HC!

That is a must have. We must have stability on the offensive side of the ball. That is the only way to achieve this.
Originally posted by joaosoarrs99:
Per a league source, G.M. Trent Baalke is expected to return. Coach Jim Tomsula is expected to be fired.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/01/03/49ers-are-expected-to-keep-baalke-dump-tomsula/

THANK YOU GOD!!!!!!
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49ers aren't still out of the woods if Baalke is a hindrance in landing an top coaching prospect.
Originally posted by joaosoarrs99:
Per a league source, G.M. Trent Baalke is expected to return. Coach Jim Tomsula is expected to be fired.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/01/03/49ers-are-expected-to-keep-baalke-dump-tomsula/

It's a start. After last year's complete failure in finding a coach, why would I have faith they would find a good one now? If Peyton is released, I'm sure he would prefer Luck over our current QBs. Gase already passed so that isn't likely. Make a solid run at Hue Jackson I suppose.
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