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Do you approve the hiring of Tomsula as HC ?

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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by DrGonzo00:
As others have said, it will be crucial for him to get some legit coordinators. The player quotes are nice, but most guys would rather play for an a**hole and win, than a nice guy and lose. My biggest concern is the FO and management hiring a guy they know/feel will go along with what they say. It can go both ways. They know him, they share the same philosophy, hopefully there won't be friction or arguing. Successful coaches have egos and they probably didn't want to deal with that again or go outside the organization and bring in someone they didn't know. I'd have felt better with Fangio to be honest, but we'll see.

Offensive coordinator will be the key hire.

Yeah, CK and the entire offense, and now, defense, is going to be 100% reliant on the coordinators now which is not an ideal situation esp. finding top-notch coordinators this late in the process. It doesn't mean it won't work out but the bottom line is, both offense and defense will now be learning brand new systems, new playbooks, new terminology, players will have new assignments, new training regimens, diets, new techniques to learn, etc. I believe JT will bring the most out of his coaches and players (which is great) but really, at the end of the day, it's going to come down to our coordinators being smarter than the opposition. I don't have much faith in THAT yet not with the coaches we've already retained and brought in (monster drop off). The good news is that the offense can only get better. By how much, we'll see. Defense? They absolutely have to maintain a top 5 defense for us to even have a playoff chance and with the loss of continuity and fantastic coaching and leadership by Fangio and staff, and a switch to a 4-3, I just don't see that happening at all.

I think your list of possibilties here illustrate just how much of a longshot things are going to be. These are a lot of hurdles to overcome. The Niners were supposed to be "this close" to the precipice. They just needed a nudge to get past the tipping point. Instead, this is a system reboot, and almost a restart @ square 1, with already aging roster of stars, numerous free agent departures looming and a suspect ability to replace that lost talent.
When your HC think Xs and Os are "the magic tricks and all that stuff.", which coordinator would want to join you and you have to admit that your ceiling is being defined to be pretty low too.

Seriously, w/ a phenomenal QB, NE still tries to find and use any advantage they can to score.

I know I shouldn't presume how the team is going to do before I see it in action, but I can't seem to think that there is any way JT will be the coach 2 years from now and if thats the case, then there is no way the team will have done well those 2 years.
[ Edited by deepniner on Jan 16, 2015 at 7:33 AM ]
Hes like a ROB RYAN.. Tomsulas got potential. He certainly has the respect of the veterans and the organization. Will he have the respect from his coordinators?
His job is Coach and not manager. All he has to worry about is winning with what he is given. He looks the part to inspire...
His biggest problem right now on Offense is WHOS at QB? Thats where the ??? come into play on his job security.
He understands the Defensive from within and without. So no worries.
Jim Harbraugh was plagued with EGO which was his downfall.

I wouldn' be surprised to see the niners go into total rebuild mode this year.. and have a potential back up coach looked at for the next season.
The niners organization is a questionable one.
[ Edited by Yuriko_21 on Jan 16, 2015 at 8:27 AM ]
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I'm bludgeon excited to see what Tomsula can do.
Harbaugh won 71% of his games and he is gone. Niners hired a d-line coach to replace him. How can you vote yes?
If we don't at least get to the NFC Championship game next season it will be a failed season
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
If we don't at least get to the NFC Championship game next season it will be a failed season

Wow, those are MASSIVE expectations. SO many factors come into play that can impact the season. If we make the playoffs and/or 10-6 or better in our first year with a new system and staff, it will indicate success.
Originally posted by genz22:
Harbaugh won 71% of his games and he is gone. Niners hired a d-line coach to replace him. How can you vote yes?

Short-term memory and fickleness are consequences of the human condition.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
If we don't at least get to the NFC Championship game next season it will be a failed season

Wow, those are MASSIVE expectations. SO many factors come into play that can impact the season. If we make the playoffs and/or 10-6 or better in our first year with a new system and staff, it will indicate success.

If we can stay healthy this team is loaded with talent and ready to win it all now. No excuses Super Bowl or bust.
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
If we don't at least get to the NFC Championship game next season it will be a failed season

Wow, those are MASSIVE expectations. SO many factors come into play that can impact the season. If we make the playoffs and/or 10-6 or better in our first year with a new system and staff, it will indicate success.

If we can stay healthy this team is loaded with talent and ready to win it all now. No excuses Super Bowl or bust.

I'm pretty sure Harbaugh's first year he brought us plays away to a SB. And there was a NFL lockout during the off season. I'm gonna definitely say its a SB or BUST year.
I voted "yes" simply because it was better than Gase. I would of approved of Fangio as well. Voting "no" because you still want Harbaugh is irrelevant. We can't go back in time so with the pool of available coaches we had to work with I think it was smart to keep it in house and go with Fangio or Tomsula.
As a member of this forum since 2005, approaching a decade here...I have been thru all the ups and downs and have enjoyed reading the reactions, but this one to JimmyT hiring has to top them all. Everyone needs to chill the F outttttttttttttttt.
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Originally posted by DynastyChile:
As a member of this forum since 2005, approaching a decade here...I have been thru all the ups and downs and have enjoyed reading the reactions, but this one to JimmyT hiring has to top them all. Everyone needs to chill the F outttttttttttttttt.

It's pretty sickening in my opinion.

I listened to his press conference late last night, to see how bad it really was and though it was great myself. People are b***hing that a HC didn't give out his schemes, when he doesn't even have any coordinators yet. I think people are just looking for reasons to hate the guy because he wasn't the "sexy (Rexy)" pick. While he was nervous and would ramble on at times, I think people mistake his character for dumbness. He's kind of a weird guy, and people translate that into him not knowing how to coach, but really I think people just have to get to know him better.
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