The 49ers 2015 Coaching Staff Thread

Originally posted by Baldie:

Originally posted by Geeked:
You would think only the Jets retain a bumbling GM Coach combo for three years. But apparently Mr. Williams believes that the rest of the NFL operates the same way.

On a side note. Barry Switzer took a very talented team to the SB. Brian Billick(SP) took a very talented team to the SB. Mike Martz took a very talented team to the SB. Jon Gruden took a very talented team to the SB....... Anyone starting to see a theme here????

Who was on those coaching staffs though? Also I can't recall if any of those teams had questions at any positions. We have BIG questions at WR and CB position as of right now. Heck even the QB position is still questionable.

Billick - QB?
Martz - physicality? Offensive skill players got bullied in the Super Bowl
Gruden - QB, WR?
Switzer - got me there, but I don't recall them having a great run defense but that would be nitpicking

Originally posted by Baldie:

Originally posted by Geeked:
You would think only the Jets retain a bumbling GM Coach combo for three years. But apparently Mr. Williams believes that the rest of the NFL operates the same way.

On a side note. Barry Switzer took a very talented team to the SB. Brian Billick(SP) took a very talented team to the SB. Mike Martz took a very talented team to the SB. Jon Gruden took a very talented team to the SB....... Anyone starting to see a theme here????

Who was on those coaching staffs though? Also I can't recall if any of those teams had questions at any positions. We have BIG questions at WR and CB position as of right now. Heck even the QB position is still questionable.

Both the Ravens and Bucs had Dilfer and Brad Johnson at QB and generally had a shifty offense. Rams had a mediocre defense at best.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Izyniner:
You meen the same coach who described how to beat the seattle def. the week before the superbowl and then we got to watch new englands off. exicute the same strategy. Didnt sound like he had missed a step in that interview.

I'm still amazed that people are acting like he said something ground-breaking or new. It wasn't. People like Jaws and Gruden brought up the same tactics a year to two years ago.

There's nothing really complex about Seattle's defense, they just have a ton of talent and execute at a ridiculously high level. I don't think New England comes out the winner if they had to face a healthy Seahawks defense. How to beat their defense is no real mystery, going out there, executing and getting it done without turning the ball over, well, that's a whole other story.

No its not ground breaking but is something that Harbaugh and Roman couldn't game plan for but yet this old coach who supposedly doesn't have the ability to coach at the nfl level does. Which was the point I was trying to make.

interesting read.



Eric Davis on 49ers' new staff: Players want winners

Is Jim Tomsula the right man to lead the new staff? Davis said Tomsula was masterful as a defensive-line coach, but it remains to be seen if has the skills to be a successful head coach. And if he doesn't, the players will know it, he said.

"You're dealing with professionals," Davis said. "Not kids. Not high-school kids. Not college kids. They actually understand their job. They study just as much as the coaches and they understand when you're setting them up for failure. That's, ultimately, why (former 49ers head coach) Mike Singletary failed. The guys reached a point where the motivational speeches didn't work. They were like 'Teach me.'

"A coach's job is not to motivate, it's to teach. Hand progression. Eye progression. Footwork. 'Make me a better player.' … I've seen (Tomsula) with players, from a position-coach standpoint, and he is a master at it. Very good. I have no idea how he's going to be as a head coach because I have not seen him do it yet. Do I think he's going to put in the necessary effort, time and dedication into it? Yes. Because that's who he is. But we don't know how he's going to react in those situations until he's there."

http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2015/02/05/eric-davis-on-49ers-new-staff-players-want-winners/

Originally posted by kray28:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by 9erReign:
We have little idea how much talent will be on the roster in 2015. Losing Crabtree, Iupati, Gore, Vernon, Brooks, Justin could be a huge blow. Add in the question marks surrounding Willis and Bow. Aldon could easily be gone too. Should be an interesting offseason.

Good point. I hope we have a lot of talent left, however, my fear is that the window of opportunity closed on some great veterans while Harbaugh was "imposing his will."

There is a thin edge when a team has some very good young players still on their inexpensive rookie contracts to balance the contracts of star players eating up a lot of cap. Right now we have a lot of good players coming up for new contracts with few established young players to offset their loss if the FO can't resign them.

This is some good b******t you're smoking.

Originally posted by buck:
interesting read.



Eric Davis on 49ers' new staff: Players want winners

Is Jim Tomsula the right man to lead the new staff? Davis said Tomsula was masterful as a defensive-line coach, but it remains to be seen if has the skills to be a successful head coach. And if he doesn't, the players will know it, he said.

"You're dealing with professionals," Davis said. "Not kids. Not high-school kids. Not college kids. They actually understand their job. They study just as much as the coaches and they understand when you're setting them up for failure. That's, ultimately, why (former 49ers head coach) Mike Singletary failed. The guys reached a point where the motivational speeches didn't work. They were like 'Teach me.'

"A coach's job is not to motivate, it's to teach. Hand progression. Eye progression. Footwork. 'Make me a better player.' … I've seen (Tomsula) with players, from a position-coach standpoint, and he is a master at it. Very good. I have no idea how he's going to be as a head coach because I have not seen him do it yet. Do I think he's going to put in the necessary effort, time and dedication into it? Yes. Because that's who he is. But we don't know how he's going to react in those situations until he's there."

http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2015/02/05/eric-davis-on-49ers-new-staff-players-want-winners/

Tomsula has clearly shown he is a good DL coach, we just have to hope this translates as HC. Nobody knows.

Originally posted by NinerGM:
This is also a slight against Harbaugh ...

Guys .. the offensive staff had like 11 coaches and was STILL the worst squad on the team. Still.

We were poorly coached offensively, no doubt about it. I still view Harbaugh as an excellent coach, but save for a few decent assistants, his offensive staff was poor. He should have taken the same approach he did with forming the defensive coaching staff. Just get the best coaches possible.

We did some really good things with the running game and play-action pass, but our most successful plays were always based on deception. The best units in the NFL (offense or defense) simply do what they do. They don't need to get cute. They just run their scheme, and it doesn't matter how much film there is on them. The scheme and the 11 players they have are simply better than the opponents. That's what we need to progress to.

Originally posted by slowriot:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by slowriot:

Dude, youtOriginally posted by NinerGM:
This is also a slight against Harbaugh ...

Guys .. the offensive staff had like 11 coaches and was STILL the worst squad on the team. Still.

Really? What part's that? The part that no coach ever has all 53 players like them, but they want winners and Harbaughs a winner which is why the players liked him as a head coach. What part of that are you having problems processing? The part that no coach ever has all 53 players liking him? That's a given on any team. The part that the top players want him there because they didn't want to go back to losing every week? Is that too hard for you to process? There are 11 coaches because Harbaugh likes to have coaches in the on deck circle because there was a good chance his top coaches would be poached. Also that's how you build contacts in the NFL in the future. A coach will always remember who gave him his first break. Isn't that why Tomsula had a hard time hiring people because he's never really developed relationships in the past. That's not his fault, but it came back and bit him in the ass this offseason.

even with the low-torque offense, Harbs and staff would've have won us multiple super bowls if allowed another 5 years.

Originally posted by buck:

interesting read.



Eric Davis on 49ers' new staff: Players want winners

Is Jim Tomsula the right man to lead the new staff? Davis said Tomsula was masterful as a defensive-line coach, but it remains to be seen if has the skills to be a successful head coach. And if he doesn't, the players will know it, he said.

"You're dealing with professionals," Davis said. "Not kids. Not high-school kids. Not college kids. They actually understand their job. They study just as much as the coaches and they understand when you're setting them up for failure. That's, ultimately, why (former 49ers head coach) Mike Singletary failed. The guys reached a point where the motivational speeches didn't work. They were like 'Teach me.'

"A coach's job is not to motivate, it's to teach. Hand progression. Eye progression. Footwork. 'Make me a better player.' … I've seen (Tomsula) with players, from a position-coach standpoint, and he is a master at it. Very good. I have no idea how he's going to be as a head coach because I have not seen him do it yet. Do I think he's going to put in the necessary effort, time and dedication into it? Yes. Because that's who he is. But we don't know how he's going to react in those situations until he's there."

http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2015/02/05/eric-davis-on-49ers-new-staff-players-want-winners/

Are "those situations" he's talking about the "in-game" situations? Seems a little vague. He comments saying Tomsula is a masterful teacher, but says we don't know how he's going to react "in those situations" -- seems conflicting. All I can gather is he's talking about how Tomsula reacts when it's more than just the DL/Front 7 coming to him with questions on how to improve their game.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Are "those situations" he's talking about the "in-game" situations? Seems a little vague. He comments saying Tomsula is a masterful teacher, but says we don't know how he's going to react "in those situations" -- seems conflicting. All I can gather is he's talking about how Tomsula reacts when it's more than just the DL/Front 7 coming to him with questions on how to improve their game.

I think he means being in charge of the entire team and not just his specialty. However he said it himself players want teachers. we have to admit that this coaching staff from top to bottom is filled with teachers. Not just names, not the sexy named guys. Guys that are known teachers, most who have held higher positions. Guys who players know they're getting great instructions. Our guys don't really need motivation. Motivation only lasted so long.. as seen by Harbaugh. The players did not quit on him but the motivation wasn't enough to get us over the hump. We needed x's and o's and we didn't have that. Maybe now we do. The players on this team want to win, they work hard and they love Tomsula. Now with some proper instruction, especially on the offensive side of the ball we could be even better than we were the past 4 years..

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Are "those situations" he's talking about the "in-game" situations? Seems a little vague. He comments saying Tomsula is a masterful teacher, but says we don't know how he's going to react "in those situations" -- seems conflicting. All I can gather is he's talking about how Tomsula reacts when it's more than just the DL/Front 7 coming to him with questions on how to improve their game.

I think he means being in charge of the entire team and not just his specialty. However he said it himself players want teachers. we have to admit that this coaching staff from top to bottom is filled with teachers. Not just names, not the sexy named guys. Guys that are known teachers, most who have held higher positions. Guys who players know they're getting great instructions. Our guys don't really need motivation. Motivation only lasted so long.. as seen by Harbaugh. The players did not quit on him but the motivation wasn't enough to get us over the hump. We needed x's and o's and we didn't have that. Maybe now we do. The players on this team want to win, they work hard and they love Tomsula. Now with some proper instruction, especially on the offensive side of the ball we could be even better than we were the past 4 years..

I was thinking the same thing. The plan is pretty clear. They want great instructors. It's one thing to be a really smart guy, or a "rah rah" guy, or can call a game well -- It's another thing to grow all your players and have them both consistently improving and consistently prepared to play on game day.

Originally posted by jonesadrian:
I think he means being in charge of the entire team and not just his specialty. However he said it himself players want teachers. we have to admit that this coaching staff from top to bottom is filled with teachers. Not just names, not the sexy named guys. Guys that are known teachers, most who have held higher positions. Guys who players know they're getting great instructions. Our guys don't really need motivation. Motivation only lasted so long.. as seen by Harbaugh. The players did not quit on him but the motivation wasn't enough to get us over the hump. We needed x's and o's and we didn't have that. Maybe now we do. The players on this team want to win, they work hard and they love Tomsula. Now with some proper instruction, especially on the offensive side of the ball we could be even better than we were the past 4 years..

Not sure how you could know that. We have no idea if most of these coaches are "teachers". Is Geep Chryst a teacher? Judging from his work with Kap if he is one he is not a very good teacher. Is Eric Mangini a teacher? I guess he was a good DB coach in NE, but he has failed at every other job. Is Steve Logan a good teacher? IDK he sounds great on the radio, but what does that really mean? Is Jason Tarver a good teacher? Not sure he was a very good OLB coach with the 49ers and he definitely wasn't a good DC. Chris Foerster track record isn't that good. Judging form his history Clancy Pendergast seems better suited for DB coach then ILB coach but with this team its a pretty easy job. Scott Brown hasn't coached in 4 years.