The 49ers 2015 Coaching Staff Thread

Originally posted by TexasNiner:
Ditto. I also really like this addition when it comes to the draft. We are likely to take a WR in the first couple days, and this is a guy with real insight on current college WRs and what it takes for one to be a good NFL prospect. If we do go WR in one of the first couple rounds, the way many hope/project, Henry should help us identify the right one, and possibly help make the decision if it's worth it to move up for a particular guy.

Excellent point. GM decisions are NOT made in a vacuum.

Originally posted by LVJay:
WR locked in.... now, does that make us complete / is errryone signed... can we get to work now??

Possibly a ST assistant and another offensive assistant or two. But...YEAH!

They obviously feel we have a talented underutilized wr corp, so this means no wr pick until 3rd round

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by LVJay:
WR locked in.... now, does that make us complete / is errryone signed... can we get to work now??

Possibly a ST assistant and another offensive assistant or two. But...YEAH!

I'm so anxious for them to get started (on things they are allowed) to do for now... they need all the time they can get.

Obviously Beckham Jr. and Landry are supremely talented but for OBJ to be offensive rookie of the year in 12 games and Landry was at least a top-five rookie receiver says a lot about this Adam Henry. This guy had something to do with how good they played as rookies.

Originally posted by 49ersking:
The 49ers defense had been great the last few years, even with key players out...is because of Fangio.
It's not that all the substitutes were great players already, it had to be the coaching.

The offensive side - coaches are either already here, or nfl Europe or new hires from college. It will take time to gel.
On the defensive side, Mangini. History shows that he didn't impress anywhere.

They say there's a silver lining around every dark could...well...still waiting for that. Will we see it in September when we beat a bottom feeder?
Anyways.

Defensively Fangio had the flexibility to do his thing and it works. Mangini has never been in charge of a defense with this much talent at each position period. Before Fangio arrived here what did history show Fangio to be?

If you're going to try and be objective, the new staff has more impressive resume's than the previous one. That's not up for debate.

The only reason there could be a dark cloud after the value we've gotten across the board is because you want there to be one.

Originally posted by slowriot:
Big money is rarely spent on position coaches. It's the size of the contract given to the HC and coordinators - along with reports that Jed was unhappy with the pay of the previous staff - that led to that particular criticism.

We had the highest paid coaching staff in total in the NFL the last couple years. When asked about his own raise Jim said that there was a pool of money this team allowed to the coaching staff. Now ... I am willing to wager that when it is all said and done once again we will have a very highly compensated coaching staff in total if only by sheer numbers and the addition of salaries but our coaching pool allotment will likely match most every other NFL team thus dispelling the false notion that we are cheap on coaches. You gotta dig deep if you are going to make a scathing criticism. Fact is we've shelled out in total the last few years so we have earned a bit of the benefit of the doubt I would think until our tally starts bottoming out wouldn't you think?

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by slowriot:
Big money is rarely spent on position coaches. It's the size of the contract given to the HC and coordinators - along with reports that Jed was unhappy with the pay of the previous staff - that led to that particular criticism.

We had the highest paid coaching staff in total in the NFL the last couple years. When asked about his own raise Jim said that there was a pool of money this team allowed to the coaching staff. Now ... I am willing to wager that when it is all said and done once again we will have a very highly compensated coaching staff in total if only by sheer numbers and the addition of salaries but our coaching pool allotment will likely match most every other NFL team thus dispelling the false notion that we are cheap on coaches. You gotta dig deep if you are going to make a scathing criticism. Fact is we've shelled out in total the last few years so we have earned a bit of the benefit of the doubt I would think until our tally starts bottoming out wouldn't you think?

I'm not among those arguing that Harbaugh and his staff are gone because the York's are cheap. I think it has far more to do with a personality clash, frustration over a lack of offensive production and differing views over the future of the franchise.

Still, I feel our coaching staff will be among the cheapest in the NFL in 2015. At a guess (and I haven't done the math) we'll be in the bottom third of the league for total staff salary. I think that's probably a fairly conservative estimate considering what JT will be earning this year... (And yes, I think he's being fairly paid considering his resume)

Originally posted by slowriot:
I'm not among those arguing that Harbaugh and his staff are gone because the York's are cheap. I think it has far more to do with a personality clash, frustration over a lack of offensive production and differing views over the future of the franchise.

Still, I feel our coaching staff will be among the cheapest in the NFL in 2015. At a guess (and I haven't done the math) we'll be in the bottom third of the league for total staff salary. I think that's probably a fairly conservative estimate considering what JT will be earning this year... (And yes, I think he's being fairly paid considering his resume)

This could be true but with all the former coordinators and HCs on hand it may not be as cheap as you would think.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by slowriot:
I'm not among those arguing that Harbaugh and his staff are gone because the York's are cheap. I think it has far more to do with a personality clash, frustration over a lack of offensive production and differing views over the future of the franchise.

Still, I feel our coaching staff will be among the cheapest in the NFL in 2015. At a guess (and I haven't done the math) we'll be in the bottom third of the league for total staff salary. I think that's probably a fairly conservative estimate considering what JT will be earning this year... (And yes, I think he's being fairly paid considering his resume)

This could be true but with all the former coordinators and HCs on hand it may not be as cheap as you would think.

Even if Tarver, Pentergast, Lewis and Sparano (am I missing any former coordinators?) all get significantly more than an average positional salary, I doubt it puts SF in the top 50% for staff salaries. No big deal, just the way I see it.

Originally posted by slowriot:
Even if Tarver, Pentergast, Lewis and Sparano (am I missing any former coordinators?) all get significantly more than an average positional salary, I doubt it puts SF in the top 50% for staff salaries. No big deal, just the way I see it.

Chryst and Mangini are both past coordinators and the latter was a HC. Not sure how the NFL works in regard to experience but I'm sure they get some consideration.


Edit: of course, the two million they save with Tomsula goes a long way!

Originally posted by zonkers:

Originally posted by TheRambler:
Norton has no loyalty at all. He coached at USC, against UCLA where he went to school. He left USC to coach at Seattle, against his old team the Niners.

He is dead in the eyes of many UCLA fans because he coached at USC. But in fairness to Norton, one story goes that he volunteered himself to coach on former player/coach Karl Dorrell's staff at UCLA, but he got no play from Dorrell. His next option was to go work under someone he knew (Carroll).

If he were ever an option in the future, I'd be more worried about his X's and O's and any of the shadier tricks he learned from Carroll.


I think the Raiders is a good fit for him. I have no idea how his X's and O's will be, but he's always been able to get his LBs to hit people and scream really loud. If the Raiders are going to make their mark on the AFC West, they'll need a bullying defense.

Why talk about Norton in a thread on our, the 49ers, coaching staff?

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by LVJay:
WR locked in.... now, does that make us complete / is errryone signed... can we get to work now??

Possibly a ST assistant and another offensive assistant or two. But...YEAH!

Think the coaching staff and personnel department began working on free agency and the draft for a while back.

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

Originally posted by 49ersking:

The 49ers defense had been great the last few years, even with key players out...is because of Fangio.
It's not that all the substitutes were great players already, it had to be the coaching.

The offensive side - coaches are either already here, or nfl Europe or new hires from college. It will take time to gel.
On the defensive side, Mangini. History shows that he didn't impress anywhere.

They say there's a silver lining around every dark could...well...still waiting for that. Will we see it in September when we beat a bottom feeder?
Anyways.

Defensively Fangio had the flexibility to do his thing and it works. Mangini has never been in charge of a defense with this much talent at each position period. Before Fangio arrived here what did history show Fangio to be?

If you're going to try and be objective, the new staff has more impressive resume's than the previous one. That's not up for debate.

The only reason there could be a dark cloud after the value we've gotten across the board is because you want there to be one.

Hm...let me see, should I say something personal about you and your thought process? My time is precious, so the answer is no.

Regarding football, this coaching staff is far worse than what we had with Harbaugh. As I've said before, hope (and time) is not a strategy.
Until this team wins games on a consistent basis, these offseason moves are probably the worse kind in a long time.
This is a one year stop gap arrangement that Jed/Baalke conjured up, until they come up with a better plan.

Team Tomsula needs to come together quickly for the Combine, Free Agency and Draft.