The 49ers 2015 Coaching Staff Thread

Originally posted by ninerjok:
Obviously Beckham Jr. and Landry are supremely talented but for OBJ to be offensive rookie of the year in 12 games and Landry was at least a top-five rookie receiver says a lot about this Adam Henry. This guy had something to do with how good they played as rookies.

Wasn't Landry the guy that took about 10 minutes to run the 40 at last year's Combine?

Maybe, Henry turned a banana slug into a good NFL receiver.

Originally posted by 49ersking:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

Originally posted by 49ersking:
The 49ers defense had been great the last few years, even with key players out...is because of Fangio.
It's not that all the substitutes were great players already, it had to be the coaching.

The offensive side - coaches are either already here, or nfl Europe or new hires from college. It will take time to gel.
On the defensive side, Mangini. History shows that he didn't impress anywhere.

They say there's a silver lining around every dark could...well...still waiting for that. Will we see it in September when we beat a bottom feeder?
Anyways.

Defensively Fangio had the flexibility to do his thing and it works. Mangini has never been in charge of a defense with this much talent at each position period. Before Fangio arrived here what did history show Fangio to be?

If you're going to try and be objective, the new staff has more impressive resume's than the previous one. That's not up for debate.

The only reason there could be a dark cloud after the value we've gotten across the board is because you want there to be one.

Hm...let me see, should I say something personal about you and your thought process? My time is precious, so the answer is no.

Regarding football, this coaching staff is far worse than what we had with Harbaugh. As I've said before, hope (and time) is not a strategy.
Until this team wins games on a consistent basis, these offseason moves are probably the worse kind in a long time.
This is a one year stop gap arrangement that Jed/Baalke conjured up, until they come up with a better plan.

I didn't personally attack you.

Far worse? Did you not witness what this offensive staff of 12 people just did and who they didn't develop?
We kept the good, Chryst Rathman, Curry and tossed out the dead weight.. 12 people were responsible for the offense let that sink in for a minute.

Tomsula which was a bright spot before Harbaugh is still here and his blueprint will be all over the defense.
and when we go down the line position coach by position coach we did way better than OK. Real bright guys with knowledge, proven teachers. People who know x's and o's and can help our team reach it's potential. We never did under Harbaugh on the offensive side. I'm willing to give Mangini a chance just like I was willing to give Vic Fangio a chance.

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

Originally posted by 49ersking:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

Originally posted by 49ersking:
The 49ers defense had been great the last few years, even with key players out...is because of Fangio.
It's not that all the substitutes were great players already, it had to be the coaching.

The offensive side - coaches are either already here, or nfl Europe or new hires from college. It will take time to gel.
On the defensive side, Mangini. History shows that he didn't impress anywhere.

They say there's a silver lining around every dark could...well...still waiting for that. Will we see it in September when we beat a bottom feeder?
Anyways.

Defensively Fangio had the flexibility to do his thing and it works. Mangini has never been in charge of a defense with this much talent at each position period. Before Fangio arrived here what did history show Fangio to be?

If you're going to try and be objective, the new staff has more impressive resume's than the previous one. That's not up for debate.

The only reason there could be a dark cloud after the value we've gotten across the board is because you want there to be one.

Hm...let me see, should I say something personal about you and your thought process? My time is precious, so the answer is no.

Regarding football, this coaching staff is far worse than what we had with Harbaugh. As I've said before, hope (and time) is not a strategy.
Until this team wins games on a consistent basis, these offseason moves are probably the worse kind in a long time.
This is a one year stop gap arrangement that Jed/Baalke conjured up, until they come up with a better plan.

I didn't personally attack you.

Far worse? Did you not witness what this offensive staff of 12 people just did and who they didn't develop?
We kept the good, Chryst Rathman, Curry and tossed out the dead weight.. 12 people were responsible for the offense let that sink in for a minute.

Tomsula which was a bright spot before Harbaugh is still here and his blueprint will be all over the defense.
and when we go down the line position coach by position coach we did way better than OK. Real bright guys with knowledge, proven teachers. People who know x's and o's and can help our team reach it's potential. We never did under Harbaugh on the offensive side. I'm willing to give Mangini a chance just like I was willing to give Vic Fangio a chance.

This. I don't hnow why some are so down on this coaching staff. The biggest answer I keep hearing is we have a lot of NFL Europe coaches and college coaches.

I urge those people to do a little homework. Harbaughs staff was filled with the same kind of mixture in 2011 barring Europe coaches. Many NFL Europe coaches have gone on to find success. Jim leavitt was a long tenured college coach who had ran a successful program and nobody complained about his resume. Steve Logan is very similar in what he accomplished at ecu and people think he's not qualified to be a positional coach lmao.

Donatell was an excellent coach and will be missed but lewis is a well respected NFL coach. Scott brown brings 30 years of coaching experience. I think its safe to assume he knows his x's and o's.

I simply urge people to compare our staffs resumes to the previous staffs resumes predating their time with the 49ers and then make a compelling argument on how this staff is such a major downgrade. I just don't see it.

Originally posted by buck:

Originally posted by ninerjok:

Obviously Beckham Jr. and Landry are supremely talented but for OBJ to be offensive rookie of the year in 12 games and Landry was at least a top-five rookie receiver says a lot about this Adam Henry. This guy had something to do with how good they played as rookies.

Wasn't Landry the guy that took about 10 minutes to run the 40 at last year's Combine?

Maybe, Henry turned a banana slug into a good NFL receiver.

When the question came up, which established NFL receiver does Landry compare to it was mostly Anquan Boldin. Last year Tannehill threw more passes to Landry the majority of games than he did Mike Wallace.

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

Originally posted by 49ersking:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

Originally posted by 49ersking:
The 49ers defense had been great the last few years, even with key players out...is because of Fangio.
It's not that all the substitutes were great players already, it had to be the coaching.

The offensive side - coaches are either already here, or nfl Europe or new hires from college. It will take time to gel.
On the defensive side, Mangini. History shows that he didn't impress anywhere.

They say there's a silver lining around every dark could...well...still waiting for that. Will we see it in September when we beat a bottom feeder?
Anyways.

Defensively Fangio had the flexibility to do his thing and it works. Mangini has never been in charge of a defense with this much talent at each position period. Before Fangio arrived here what did history show Fangio to be?

If you're going to try and be objective, the new staff has more impressive resume's than the previous one. That's not up for debate.

The only reason there could be a dark cloud after the value we've gotten across the board is because you want there to be one.

Hm...let me see, should I say something personal about you and your thought process? My time is precious, so the answer is no.

Regarding football, this coaching staff is far worse than what we had with Harbaugh. As I've said before, hope (and time) is not a strategy.
Until this team wins games on a consistent basis, these offseason moves are probably the worse kind in a long time.
This is a one year stop gap arrangement that Jed/Baalke conjured up, until they come up with a better plan.

I didn't personally attack you.

Far worse? Did you not witness what this offensive staff of 12 people just did and who they didn't develop?
We kept the good, Chryst Rathman, Curry and tossed out the dead weight.. 12 people were responsible for the offense let that sink in for a minute.

Tomsula which was a bright spot before Harbaugh is still here and his blueprint will be all over the defense.
and when we go down the line position coach by position coach we did way better than OK. Real bright guys with knowledge, proven teachers. People who know x's and o's and can help our team reach it's potential. We never did under Harbaugh on the offensive side. I'm willing to give Mangini a chance just like I was willing to give Vic Fangio a chance.

It's one thing to be skeptical b/c we didn't hire your guys (or draft your players) and to say as such, but it's another to tear down the FO and every move made thus far and every coach brought in BEFORE we've even seen one practice. The "hate" is clouding you.

It's yet another thing to blindly accept everything that's been spoon fed to you by this front office and the rest of the homer patrol around here because you desperately want to be right about bashing Harbaugh and his staff all season for not winning. Blaming Harbaugh for all the drama is laughable. Another case of believing what you want to believe. Homers going to homer I guess.

Originally posted by NinerG94:
It's yet another thing to blindly accept everything that's been spoon fed to you by this front office and the rest of the homer patrol around here because you desperately want to be right about bashing Harbaugh and his staff all season for not winning. Blaming Harbaugh for all the drama is laughable. Another case of believing what you want to believe. Homers going to homer I guess.

Few people have been blaming harbaugh for the season long drama if any. Most people are just saying he had his hand in the drama.

I'll be the first to say that I miss harbaugh and the winning culture that he brought but the way that many of you are berating the new staff is just downright puzzling.

Your hating a car before you drive it. Disappointed in a book before you read it. I think you get the picture. Haters gonna hate I guess.

This seems to be a good coaching staff in terms of position coaches. Not well known in the coordinator positions but good supporting cast in the position coaches. It's the one thing that people tend to overlook. Tomsula became a HC from a position coach so he may put more value in getting good position coaches for his guys. Tomsula did a pretty good job himself through the years at D-line.

amazing hire at WR-coaching if you ask me. We are talking about a guy who was coaching Landry, Beckham jr. .

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

More than a few of his wr's came into the NFL ready to make a big impact. I'm glad we have 2 of them and I hope they develop our guys and give them the tools to be great on Sundays. I'm liking the staff more and more.

ODB, Jarvis Landry, and had a hand in developing Zach Miller as a TE coach in OAK. Not bad at all.

I'm excited to see what tips he can give our guys instead of "Yea just run the route" like in some of the videos I've seen of our old coach

Morton $ucked! Hopefully now we have a chance to finally develop WR's. I am stoked about this hire!

Originally posted by communist:
amazing hire at WR-coaching if you ask me. We are talking about a guy who was coaching Landry, Beckham jr. .

Huge upgrade here and I'm excited to see what he can do with Johnson, Patton and Ellington. I doubt he will have to do much with Boldin! But with Logan already on the staff it was already a win/win situation. Now it's win/win/win!

Originally posted by Wrathman:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:
More than a few of his wr's came into the NFL ready to make a big impact. I'm glad we have 2 of them and I hope they develop our guys and give them the tools to be great on Sundays. I'm liking the staff more and more.

ODB, Jarvis Landry, and had a hand in developing Zach Miller as a TE coach in OAK. Not bad at all.

I'm excited to see what tips he can give our guys instead of "Yea just run the route" like in some of the videos I've seen of our old coach

Morton $ucked! Hopefully now we have a chance to finally develop WR's. I am stoked about this hire!

This is the thing right here. It's almost like if you objectively wrote down every single one of our issues on offense and a few negative tendencies on defense, you now see a coach tied to that issue that specifically specializes in that issue, now on staff.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by communist:
amazing hire at WR-coaching if you ask me. We are talking about a guy who was coaching Landry, Beckham jr. .

Huge upgrade here and I'm excited to see what he can do with Johnson, Patton and Ellington. I doubt he will have to do much with Boldin! But with Logan already on the staff it was already a win/win situation. Now it's win/win/win!

agreed, I also love this hire. Great job Trent!

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Originally posted by NinerG94:
It's yet another thing to blindly accept everything that's been spoon fed to you by this front office and the rest of the homer patrol around here because you desperately want to be right about bashing Harbaugh and his staff all season for not winning. Blaming Harbaugh for all the drama is laughable. Another case of believing what you want to believe. Homers going to homer I guess.

Who is blindly accepting? We're actually looking at the things objectively. The guys have extensive resumes and proven track records of being effective at the things they're hired here to do. We've got guys a mix of young upcoming talent and veteran coaches who know what to do.

If the staff was all young people..then it would be oh no a train wreck because nobody knows what they're doing.

if it's all old people then it's they're all so old they won't know what they're doing the game has passed them by

now that it's a healthy mix of young and old some exciting hires and some solid ones all that's left is calling people homers for looking at things objectively.

Mangini interviewed to be a head coach and a dc less than a month ago but let someone tell it nobody wanted him.

Vic was lobbying to get Chryst to be the OC in chicago but let people tell it nobody wanted him.

Everybody wanted their shiny name and now are pouting because they didn't get it.

The tone around here with a 36 year old Gase as the head coach would be completely different and he could pretty much be Josh Macdaniels for all we would have known.. but it was the name so we'd just roll with it right?

Where is he or any of the other potential candidates currently head coaching at right now?