The 49ers 2015 Coaching Staff Thread

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
This seems to be a good coaching staff in terms of position coaches. Not well known in the coordinator positions but good supporting cast in the position coaches. It's the one thing that people tend to overlook. Tomsula became a HC from a position coach so he may put more value in getting good position coaches for his guys. Tomsula did a pretty good job himself through the years at D-line.

I was going to say this. I am less than enthused about our coordinator hires, to put it mildly, but I'm very happy with our position coach hires.

I think I'd prefer it the other way around, but hey, I'd rather have good position coaches than bad ones.

Originally posted by nipplehead:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
This seems to be a good coaching staff in terms of position coaches. Not well known in the coordinator positions but good supporting cast in the position coaches. It's the one thing that people tend to overlook. Tomsula became a HC from a position coach so he may put more value in getting good position coaches for his guys. Tomsula did a pretty good job himself through the years at D-line.

I was going to say this. I am less than enthused about our coordinator hires, to put it mildly, but I'm very happy with our position coach hires.

I think I'd prefer it the other way around, but hey, I'd rather have good position coaches than bad ones.

I agree. I have a lot more concern with the head coach/coordinator positions.

Originally posted by nipplehead:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
This seems to be a good coaching staff in terms of position coaches. Not well known in the coordinator positions but good supporting cast in the position coaches. It's the one thing that people tend to overlook. Tomsula became a HC from a position coach so he may put more value in getting good position coaches for his guys. Tomsula did a pretty good job himself through the years at D-line.

I was going to say this. I am less than enthused about our coordinator hires, to put it mildly, but I'm very happy with our position coach hires.

I think I'd prefer it the other way around, but hey, I'd rather have good position coaches than bad ones.

That's an interesting point. Generally speaking, position coaches have more to do with individual player development while coordinators have more to do with gameplans and playcalling.

Originally posted by thl408:

That's an interesting point. Generally speaking, position coaches have more to do with individual player development while coordinators have more to do with gameplans and playcalling.

So we got the teaching positions filled then

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by 9moon:
DA' SKINS....

fangio is going to make the redskins into such a power house its not going to be funny

Particularly impressive since he'll be doing it from Chicago.

BOOM!

Apologies to CC. (I thought it was a little uncharacteristic to tell you the truth.)

HA check my history
i was actually ok giving erickson a second year with his own coach
i was in love with mike nolan cuz his dad coached the team
i thought david boston would be our savior
i thought marlon moore, eric wright and jon baldwin would light it up
i was sure the niners would hire gruden
i was convinced they would never make a change at qb in mid season in regards to alex vs ck
i was also convinced the team would not do anything in post season the year we went to the super bowl cuz they did not play well in the last two games of the regular season
i do not have the best track record,, and i was just teasing 94 a bit, we all make mistakes

Guilty of the bolded but not the rest.

I was never all that stoked about Nolan, but just like Tomsula I wasn't overly negative either. I did think Sing would be a lot better than he was.

Originally posted by nipplehead:
I was going to say this. I am less than enthused about our coordinator hires, to put it mildly, but I'm very happy with our position coach hires.

I think I'd prefer it the other way around, but hey, I'd rather have good position coaches than bad ones.

Yup, I think that's a fair take

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by thl408:
That's an interesting point. Generally speaking, position coaches have more to do with individual player development while coordinators have more to do with gameplans and playcalling.

So we got the teaching positions filled then

I would agree with that. The teachers (position coaches) are definitely experienced. Let's see how the strategists and shotcallers (Geep, Mangini) perform in what will be their biggest role in years, or in the case of Tomsula, ever. I know it'll be a collaborative effort with gameplanning and such, but those three should be making the final call. (insert 'Baalke is the true coach' quip)

Originally posted by Marvin49:
Guilty of the bolded but not the rest.

I was never all that stoked about Nolan, but just like Tomsula I wasn't overly negative either. I did think Sing would be a lot better than he was.

Don't feel bad... EVERYONE drank that cool aid.

If the 49ers didn't hire Sing, he would've been the HC for the falcons.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by thl408:
That's an interesting point. Generally speaking, position coaches have more to do with individual player development while coordinators have more to do with gameplans and playcalling.

So we got the teaching positions filled then

I would agree with that. The teachers (position coaches) are definitely experienced. Let's see how the strategists and shotcallers (Geep, Mangini) perform in what will be their biggest role in years, or in the case of Tomsula, ever. I know it'll be a collaborative effort with gameplanning and such, but those three should be making the final call. (insert 'Baalke is the true coach' quip)

I think it will be easier on them because the teaching positions are a strength. We have to see how Chryst calls a game, how aggressive he is, if he knows how to get the team into a rhythm, can he make adjustments in game and will he stick with what's working. I'm willing to give that a try, we know the last guy didn't do a lot of those things.

As far as Mangini goes you can't find anyone who says he doesn't know his x's and o's. Not a single person love him or hate him. I think this is the dream role for him. A talented defense, talented position coaches and no responsibilities other than to study the offense coming up, draw up a game plan and hand it to his position guys and in the game note what's working what isn't and adjust accordingly.

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

I think it will be easier on them because the teaching positions are a strength. We have to see how Chryst calls a game, how aggressive he is, if he knows how to get the team into a rhythm, can he make adjustments in game and will he stick with what's working. I'm willing to give that a try, we know the last guy didn't do a lot of those things.

As far as Mangini goes you can't find anyone who says he doesn't know his x's and o's. Not a single person love him or hate him. I think this is the dream role for him. A talented defense, talented position coaches and no responsibilities other than to study the offense coming up, draw up a game plan and hand it to his position guys and in the game note what's working what isn't and adjust accordingly.

I agree the teachers will greatly aid the strategists and I also believe out players. With real teachers on board now maybe we unlock some of our hidden talents. Maybe we get younger talented guys contributinh more regularly instead of wasting away on our rosters and being poached later on to contribute elsewhere. There is no sense building a fine 90 man roster if we are going to play the same guys all the time because our teachers aren't helping to get guys on the field

Originally posted by cciowa:
i really loved david boston

To be fair we were all screaming for the opportunity to sign a guy with that much talent after having gone through some average to horrible wide receivers leading up to that point. I think many of us were on that bandwagon too.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:
I think it will be easier on them because the teaching positions are a strength. We have to see how Chryst calls a game, how aggressive he is, if he knows how to get the team into a rhythm, can he make adjustments in game and will he stick with what's working. I'm willing to give that a try, we know the last guy didn't do a lot of those things.

As far as Mangini goes you can't find anyone who says he doesn't know his x's and o's. Not a single person love him or hate him. I think this is the dream role for him. A talented defense, talented position coaches and no responsibilities other than to study the offense coming up, draw up a game plan and hand it to his position guys and in the game note what's working what isn't and adjust accordingly.

I agree the teachers will greatly aid the strategists and I also believe out players. With real teachers on board now maybe we unlock some of our hidden talents. Maybe we get younger talented guys contributinh more regularly instead of wasting away on our rosters and being poached later on to contribute elsewhere. There is no sense building a fine 90 man roster if we are going to play the same guys all the time because our teachers aren't helping to get guys on the field

with that there might also be more trial by fire. it took a lot for people to get on the field under fangio's watch. sometimes it was the right decision other times it felt like he was holding people back. getting the people out there before they're fully ready will give this squad bigger risk reward potential.
we'll see how they play it.

on offense there is no risk, just go out there use everybody to their strengths and do as much as possible to score as many points.

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

with that there might also be more trial by fire. it took a lot for people to get on the field under fangio's watch. sometimes it was the right decision other times it felt like he was holding people back. getting the people out there before they're fully ready will give this squad bigger risk reward potential.
we'll see how they play it.

on offense there is no risk, just go out there use everybody to their strengths and do as much as possible to score as many points.

True. QP and Bruce hardly got any snaps all year

Eric Branch ‏@Eric_Branch 5m5 minutes ago
Heard from #49ers player who thinks changes to coaching staff will hurt team in 2015: "Everyone will see soon enough," he said.

Originally posted by OregonNiner87:
Eric Branch ‏@Eric_Branch 5m5 minutes ago
Heard from #49ers player who thinks changes to coaching staff will hurt team in 2015: "Everyone will see soon enough," he said.

depends who that player is. Is he a fringe player, backup, starter, on offense, defense?