The 49ers 2015 Coaching Staff Thread

Originally posted by sincalfaithful:
"Only once did the 49ers run Gore twice on the same set of downs. That sequence came in the first quarter when Gore picked up 5 yards on first-and-10, and 11 yards on second down.

"I thought when we were running the ball, we were doing a great job," Gore said after the 49ers' 24-13 loss to the Raiders. "The O-line was coming off the ball. We were having success. I think, I hope, I think, once we got behind, we felt like we had to do something different.

"I feel we were in the game. The coaches are the ones calling the plays. I'm out there to play. Whatever the coach calls, I'm going to give my teammates 110 percent, whatever play it is. It's tough."

and we lost more than a few games over the past 2 years for the simple fact they went away from what was clearly working

and then Roman had the nerve to brag about being able to run the ball all the time but he wanted to win...

I wish i could throw a potato across the country and deliver it to his running back coordinator chambers

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Marvin49:
Has beens and never was before their current Jobs...





...yeah those guys got together for a pretty big game recently.

Belichick was a highly successful defensive coordinator, won SB's with the Giants, as a head coach he took the Browns to the playoffs

Carroll was a successful defensive coordinator with the 49ers and didn't do a half bad job as HC of the Patriots, the ownership just had a twitchy finger. Plus he had tremendous success at USC.


Not one of those guys was considered a "has been or never was" prior to being hired by their current employers. I get the point that you're trying to make, but neither of them fit that particular description.

We'll agree to disagree.

When Carroll left NE he wasn't exactly viewed as a great HC candidate.

Belichick you could argue was always thought of as a great DC...but these are just 2 guys.

NFL is littered with coaches who failed in one spot and succeeded elsewhere. Shanahan another good one. BTW, most of these guys fit that Belichick/Carroll profile in that they didn't succeed I their first opportunity and then went back to the role thay made their name it. That's what many of these guys are doing (Sparano, Pendergast, Lewis).

I'm not making an apples to apples comparison here, but it always bugs me when people write off coaches because they failed in previous positions. So did Fangio. So did Chudzinski, Shanahan (both), and Trestman whom many on this site wanted.

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Marvin49:
..oh yeah...here's a loser that was passed over as HC by his own team and had to go to College to get a HC gig. Loser.

So Tomsula didn't get promoted because Harbaugh, Nolan & Singletary were blackballing him?

Not exactly...just addressing the "has beens and never was" BS.

Originally posted by sincalfaithful:
"Only once did the 49ers run Gore twice on the same set of downs. That sequence came in the first quarter when Gore picked up 5 yards on first-and-10, and 11 yards on second down.

"I thought when we were running the ball, we were doing a great job," Gore said after the 49ers' 24-13 loss to the Raiders. "The O-line was coming off the ball. We were having success. I think, I hope, I think, once we got behind, we felt like we had to do something different.

"I feel we were in the game. The coaches are the ones calling the plays. I'm out there to play. Whatever the coach calls, I'm going to give my teammates 110 percent, whatever play it is. It's tough."

In other words, "I am not playing for the coaches, I am playing for my teammates"

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Belichick was a highly successful defensive coordinator, won SB's with the Giants, as a head coach he took the Browns to the playoffs

Carroll was a successful defensive coordinator with the 49ers and didn't do a half bad job as HC of the Patriots, the ownership just had a twitchy finger. Plus he had tremendous success at USC.


Not one of those guys was considered a "has been or never was" prior to being hired by their current employers. I get the point that you're trying to make, but neither of them fit that particular description.

Exactly this. Phoenix, you saved me a whole lot of typing. Thanks

Originally posted by jonesadrian:
Correct however the guys we have now especially as coordinators are not far off than the guys we had the past 4 years.

And we keep underselling the fact that universally the players love and respect him as a man as a coach and as a football mind and are actually looking forward to working with him. That is a big chunk of the battle right there. If Mangini were the head coach I'd feel this team was doomed. He is not he answers to Tomsula

on top of that, the position coaches are all bright minded individuals either with track record or up and coming.

People can undersell the staff if they want to because they aren't the sexy names they wanted. I am encouraged because the players will play for Tomsula and we have some pretty good teachers to help them get better from an x's and o's standpoint. not just line up and hope for the best.

It all depends on Tomsula honestly. Not really happy with Chryst as OC, I don't really see him being much of an improvement over Roman based on his past track record but maybe the offensive system will be a little more streamlined and a little more sane and it will take less time to get plays in.


Defensively, I don't really have an issue with Mangini, I think he can do a good job with all the talent on the defense. Beyond that, there's a nice combination of experience and youth, some very successful coaches, I feel like they improved quite a bit with some of the assistants and stayed the same with some others.


Eitherway, it still comes down to the head coach and whether or not Tomsula can get it done consistently.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
It all depends on Tomsula honestly. Not really happy with Chryst as OC, I don't really see him being much of an improvement over Roman based on his past track record but maybe the offensive system will be a little more streamlined and a little more sane and it will take less time to get plays in.


Defensively, I don't really have an issue with Mangini, I think he can do a good job with all the talent on the defense. Beyond that, there's a nice combination of experience and youth, some very successful coaches, I feel like they improved quite a bit with some of the assistants and stayed the same with some others.


Eitherway, it still comes down to the head coach and whether or not Tomsula can get it done consistently.

History is not in his favor.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:
Correct however the guys we have now especially as coordinators are not far off than the guys we had the past 4 years.

And we keep underselling the fact that universally the players love and respect him as a man as a coach and as a football mind and are actually looking forward to working with him. That is a big chunk of the battle right there. If Mangini were the head coach I'd feel this team was doomed. He is not he answers to Tomsula

on top of that, the position coaches are all bright minded individuals either with track record or up and coming.

People can undersell the staff if they want to because they aren't the sexy names they wanted. I am encouraged because the players will play for Tomsula and we have some pretty good teachers to help them get better from an x's and o's standpoint. not just line up and hope for the best.

It all depends on Tomsula honestly. Not really happy with Chryst as OC, I don't really see him being much of an improvement over Roman based on his past track record but maybe the offensive system will be a little more streamlined and a little more sane and it will take less time to get plays in.


Defensively, I don't really have an issue with Mangini, I think he can do a good job with all the talent on the defense. Beyond that, there's a nice combination of experience and youth, some very successful coaches, I feel like they improved quite a bit with some of the assistants and stayed the same with some others.


Eitherway, it still comes down to the head coach and whether or not Tomsula can get it done consistently.

Agree in Chryst. Was hoping for an upgrade there. We'll see what happens.

Originally posted by Marvin49:
Agree in Chryst. Was hoping for an upgrade there. We'll see what happens.

The fact he was their third or fourth preference doesn't bode well. JT and TB clearly 'settled' with this hire.

LET THE SUCKAGE COMMENCE !!!

Originally posted by slowriot:
The fact he was their third or fourth preference doesn't bode well. JT and TB clearly 'settled' with this hire.

All you can do is just hope for the best at this point. To me the hiring of two receivers coach to focus on different receiver types and responsibilities shows at a good awareness of some of the issues that were plaguing the offense in recent years so while this staff might be cobbled together with duct tape, it also doesn't necessarily mean they can't be successful. The odds are against it I'd say but if these guys all have pretty good chemistry and work together seamlessly with no ego's involved, anything is possible.


Hoping all of this works out and Baalke ends up looking like some grandmaster of football level genius.

Originally posted by slowriot:

Originally posted by Marvin49:
Agree in Chryst. Was hoping for an upgrade there. We'll see what happens.

The fact he was their third or fourth preference doesn't bode well. JT and TB clearly 'settled' with this hire.

I think that's fair.

We have no idea whom they wanted to interview that would have beaten out Chryst...but to me Chud was the only one that would have for sure gotten the job over Chryst.

Shanahan Sr? Not really ever an option IMO
Shanahan Jr? Not a slam dunk hire...they wanted to interview but no guarantee he gets the job.
Gase? May have liked him but if they really wanted him they'd have made him the HC.

Apparently, we have two wide receiver coaches.

Boldin and Johnson have been in the league for a while, so they probably do not need all that much coaching.

Henry is going to focus on working with Patton, and Curry will spend most his time with Ellington.

If the team wants to get its money's worth, Baalke will have to draft at least three wide receivers in this years draft.

Work these coaches like dogs.

Some of the candidates are:

1st round---Kevin White, DeVante Parker, or Jalen Strong.

3rd round---Rashad Greene, Breshad Perriman, or Vince Mayle

6th round----Dezmin Lewis or Titus Davis

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
All you can do is just hope for the best at this point. To me the hiring of two receivers coach to focus on different receiver types and responsibilities shows at a good awareness of some of the issues that were plaguing the offense in recent years so while this staff might be cobbled together with duct tape, it also doesn't necessarily mean they can't be successful. The odds are against it I'd say but if these guys all have pretty good chemistry and work together seamlessly with no ego's involved, anything is possible.


Hoping all of this works out and Baalke ends up looking like some grandmaster of football level genius.

I couldn't agree more.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:
Correct however the guys we have now especially as coordinators are not far off than the guys we had the past 4 years.

And we keep underselling the fact that universally the players love and respect him as a man as a coach and as a football mind and are actually looking forward to working with him. That is a big chunk of the battle right there. If Mangini were the head coach I'd feel this team was doomed. He is not he answers to Tomsula

on top of that, the position coaches are all bright minded individuals either with track record or up and coming.

People can undersell the staff if they want to because they aren't the sexy names they wanted. I am encouraged because the players will play for Tomsula and we have some pretty good teachers to help them get better from an x's and o's standpoint. not just line up and hope for the best.

It all depends on Tomsula honestly. Not really happy with Chryst as OC, I don't really see him being much of an improvement over Roman based on his past track record but maybe the offensive system will be a little more streamlined and a little more sane and it will take less time to get plays in.


Defensively, I don't really have an issue with Mangini, I think he can do a good job with all the talent on the defense. Beyond that, there's a nice combination of experience and youth, some very successful coaches, I feel like they improved quite a bit with some of the assistants and stayed the same with some others.


Eitherway, it still comes down to the head coach and whether or not Tomsula can get it done consistently.

I don't feel Chryst was influenced by Roman or has Roman influences. I think he's independent so we'll have to wait and see.

I am encouraged with Tomsula because he knows x's and o's and the team is ready to go to war with him.

That is essentially what Harbaugh was, they bought into Harbaugh and they have bought into Tomsula seemingly. Where Harbaugh lacked was on the offensive side of the ball x's and o's and we have improved that a lot imo as well as kept things that worked.

The things we complained about (the offensive line, tight ends coach) they replaced. the places we felt we were good at (running backs coach) we kept. and i think we found a hidden gem in Logan drilling Kap.. he sounds and seems like he can be to Kap what Shanahan was to Steve Young.

Defensively we've got pedigree on and off the field.

I think with the position coaches and coordinators a LOT of the pressure is off of Tomsula to do it alone every week. It might actually be a cohesive team working towards winning it all.