The 49ers 2015 Coaching Staff Thread

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Right. Because you add so much to the conversation with your serious commentary and golly g George power of positive thinking....

If you want to hide in the corner and pretend the world is ending, go ahead. To each his own. But please don't fool yourself into believing that a positive outlook automatically equates to lacking a grip on reality. Sometimes things work out.

I think you think my original post was directed at you or those who have chosen to be positive. It wasnt. I was just sitting at work bored at the end of the day and decided to post something that is goofy and made me laugh. I'm sorry you don't appreciate my humor, even if tired.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by slowriot:
The fact he was their third or fourth preference doesn't bode well. JT and TB clearly 'settled' with this hire.

All you can do is just hope for the best at this point. To me the hiring of two receivers coach to focus on different receiver types and responsibilities shows at a good awareness of some of the issues that were plaguing the offense in recent years so while this staff might be cobbled together with duct tape, it also doesn't necessarily mean they can't be successful. The odds are against it I'd say but if these guys all have pretty good chemistry and work together seamlessly with no ego's involved, anything is possible.


Hoping all of this works out and Baalke ends up looking like some grandmaster of football level genius.

Doesn't any of this smell like our "too many cooks in the kitchen" problem on offense the last few years??

Who is providing the vision for this offense? The only one who has spoken out is Baalke--- we're gonna run the ball.... umm ok?

Maybe a lot of decent parts can come together, but more often than not, there has to be a genius in the room somewhere guiding things. i don't see that person

The NFC West division is stacked with great coaches, with proven head coaching experience. Also, this division has great players, mostly on the defensive side of the ball. The 49ers weakest link was offense...and there hasn't been any significant upgrade on offense since Harbaugh was kicked out. New names does not automatically mean better (or worse). Will the free agency get some good players? will the players want to come here...when none of the coaches wanted to? Will it be a good draft? Lots of unknowns...and that's not a good thing in general.
If you watched the SB, the amount of game planning that went into beating Seattle was just amazing. It was no easy task, but they methodically beat them, one step at a time, with planning and execution. There is a lot of strategy involved, clock mgmt., personnel substitution, list goes on & on. Its old news now.

Tomsula needs a lot of experience. The assistant coaches need a lot of experience. If the goal is to get to 8-8 this season, then I think the 49ers most likely have the pieces in place. If the goal is to win the SB this year, sorry, that needs a lot more than a few prayers.
In the end, "consistent wins" triumphs everything else. The coaching staff is what it is, the owner and GM made the decision.

Once again...time will tell.

Originally posted by Big_Daddy:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by slowriot:
The fact he was their third or fourth preference doesn't bode well. JT and TB clearly 'settled' with this hire.

All you can do is just hope for the best at this point. To me the hiring of two receivers coach to focus on different receiver types and responsibilities shows at a good awareness of some of the issues that were plaguing the offense in recent years so while this staff might be cobbled together with duct tape, it also doesn't necessarily mean they can't be successful. The odds are against it I'd say but if these guys all have pretty good chemistry and work together seamlessly with no ego's involved, anything is possible.


Hoping all of this works out and Baalke ends up looking like some grandmaster of football level genius.

Doesn't any of this smell like our "too many cooks in the kitchen" problem on offense the last few years??

Who is providing the vision for this offense? The only one who has spoken out is Baalke--- we're gonna run the ball.... umm ok?

Maybe a lot of decent parts can come together, but more often than not, there has to be a genius in the room somewhere guiding things. i don't see that person

Well we have a Manginius. :)

As far as "too many cooks", we have three less than Harbaugh did on offense. Good or bad, pretty sure this is Chrysts show to run.

Originally posted by 49ersking:

The NFC West division is stacked with great coaches, with proven head coaching experience. Also, this division has great players, mostly on the defensive side of the ball. The 49ers weakest link was offense...and there hasn't been any significant upgrade on offense since Harbaugh was kicked out. New names does not automatically mean better (or worse). Will the free agency get some good players? will the players want to come here...when none of the coaches wanted to? Will it be a good draft? Lots of unknowns...and that's not a good thing in general.
If you watched the SB, the amount of game planning that went into beating Seattle was just amazing. It was no easy task, but they methodically beat them, one step at a time, with planning and execution. There is a lot of strategy involved, clock mgmt., personnel substitution, list goes on & on. Its old news now.

Tomsula needs a lot of experience. The assistant coaches need a lot of experience. If the goal is to get to 8-8 this season, then I think the 49ers most likely have the pieces in place. If the goal is to win the SB this year, sorry, that needs a lot more than a few prayers.
In the end, "consistent wins" triumphs everything else. The coaching staff is what it is, the owner and GM made the decision.

Once again...time will tell.

Nice. Sound. Reasonable take.

Originally posted by 49ersking:
The NFC West division is stacked with great coaches, with proven head coaching experience. Also, this division has great players, mostly on the defensive side of the ball. The 49ers weakest link was offense...and there hasn't been any significant upgrade on offense since Harbaugh was kicked out. New names does not automatically mean better (or worse). Will the free agency get some good players? will the players want to come here...when none of the coaches wanted to? Will it be a good draft? Lots of unknowns...and that's not a good thing in general.
If you watched the SB, the amount of game planning that went into beating Seattle was just amazing. It was no easy task, but they methodically beat them, one step at a time, with planning and execution. There is a lot of strategy involved, clock mgmt., personnel substitution, list goes on & on. Its old news now.

Tomsula needs a lot of experience. The assistant coaches need a lot of experience. If the goal is to get to 8-8 this season, then I think the 49ers most likely have the pieces in place. If the goal is to win the SB this year, sorry, that needs a lot more than a few prayers.
In the end, "consistent wins" triumphs everything else. The coaching staff is what it is, the owner and GM made the decision.

Once again...time will tell.

completely disagree there.

Also you don't need a lot of experience in order to win. Harbaugh just proved that. Now because this coach isn't the one that people wanted it's about experience but I doubt anyone would say that if Gase had gotten the job and he's only a year or two older than Boldin.

And you mention the planning it took to beat Seattle. That's exactly why Jim harbaugh and Greg Roman aren't here now. How good was their planning?
Stop selling these guys short.

Originally posted by Big_Daddy:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by slowriot:
The fact he was their third or fourth preference doesn't bode well. JT and TB clearly 'settled' with this hire.

All you can do is just hope for the best at this point. To me the hiring of two receivers coach to focus on different receiver types and responsibilities shows at a good awareness of some of the issues that were plaguing the offense in recent years so while this staff might be cobbled together with duct tape, it also doesn't necessarily mean they can't be successful. The odds are against it I'd say but if these guys all have pretty good chemistry and work together seamlessly with no ego's involved, anything is possible.


Hoping all of this works out and Baalke ends up looking like some grandmaster of football level genius.

Doesn't any of this smell like our "too many cooks in the kitchen" problem on offense the last few years??

Who is providing the vision for this offense? The only one who has spoken out is Baalke--- we're gonna run the ball.... umm ok?

Maybe a lot of decent parts can come together, but more often than not, there has to be a genius in the room somewhere guiding things. i don't see that person

No it does not. Too many cooks is having a protocol like the one we just had. Too many cooks is not working together to make 1 plan and have 1 goal.

There have been multiple reports about the offense. Getting back to using Kap's strengths also looking at the hires you can clue into things like a zbs and other stuff. I would much rather have them say the ideas that they want instead of getting on the podium and lying to us about what they're going to do i.e. the last regime.

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

Originally posted by 49ersking:
The NFC West division is stacked with great coaches, with proven head coaching experience. Also, this division has great players, mostly on the defensive side of the ball. The 49ers weakest link was offense...and there hasn't been any significant upgrade on offense since Harbaugh was kicked out. New names does not automatically mean better (or worse). Will the free agency get some good players? will the players want to come here...when none of the coaches wanted to? Will it be a good draft? Lots of unknowns...and that's not a good thing in general.
If you watched the SB, the amount of game planning that went into beating Seattle was just amazing. It was no easy task, but they methodically beat them, one step at a time, with planning and execution. There is a lot of strategy involved, clock mgmt., personnel substitution, list goes on & on. Its old news now.

Tomsula needs a lot of experience. The assistant coaches need a lot of experience. If the goal is to get to 8-8 this season, then I think the 49ers most likely have the pieces in place. If the goal is to win the SB this year, sorry, that needs a lot more than a few prayers.
In the end, "consistent wins" triumphs everything else. The coaching staff is what it is, the owner and GM made the decision.

Once again...time will tell.

completely disagree there.

Also you don't need a lot of experience in order to win. Harbaugh just proved that. Now because this coach isn't the one that people wanted it's about experience but I doubt anyone would say that if Gase had gotten the job and he's only a year or two older than Boldin.

And you mention the planning it took to beat Seattle. That's exactly why Jim harbaugh and Greg Roman aren't here now. How good was their planning?
Stop selling these guys short.

Harbaugh took this same team to 3 consecutive NFCCGs. It has never been done in the history of the NFL. If that experience or that of Caroll or Arians...is compared to Tomsula and Chryst, well...I'll leave it at that. I think most ppl are confused about Gase...is it him or Manning. In either case, he didn't show up here, nor did the Colts OC. None of this sounds good. Anyways, whatever...this 49ers staff is here to stay for 2015.

There are diff opinions for a reason...all fans don't think alike (thank goodness), and if you feel positive about the whole situation, good for you. Don't expect the disappointed fans (at least some) to change their opinion on hope.
In the end, it's just a game. There's something positive.

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by valrod33:
3-13

Im a bit more optimistic I can see them going 4-12.

On a serious note, this is still a talented and veteran team. I have a hard time seeing us going anything less than 7-9. With that said, if rather go 2-14 than 7-9 and force Jed's hand into action. JT and co would have to suck pretty hard for this team to go 4-12. The defense alone should carry them.

having a fan wanting a team to go 2-14 to justify your hate for the front office is very telling and disturbing and tells me all i need to know about your agenda

Originally posted by Big_Daddy:
Doesn't any of this smell like our "too many cooks in the kitchen" problem on offense the last few years??

Who is providing the vision for this offense? The only one who has spoken out is Baalke--- we're gonna run the ball.... umm ok?

Maybe a lot of decent parts can come together, but more often than not, there has to be a genius in the room somewhere guiding things. i don't see that person

that and a huge micromanager as the head of the rattlesnake was a huge issue. let the coaches coach, make the players better and let em have fun playing the game again

The problem on offense wasn't too many cooks in the kitchen. It was the head chef insisting we do dumb things like run the play clock all the way down on every snap.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by valrod33:
3-13

Im a bit more optimistic I can see them going 4-12.

On a serious note, this is still a talented and veteran team. I have a hard time seeing us going anything less than 7-9. With that said, if rather go 2-14 than 7-9 and force Jed's hand into action. JT and co would have to suck pretty hard for this team to go 4-12. The defense alone should carry them.

having a fan wanting a team to go 2-14 to justify your hate for the front office is very telling and disturbing and tells me all i need to know about your agenda

Ok. Chief.

Originally posted by TheRambler:
The problem on offense wasn't too many cooks in the kitchen. It was the head chef insisting we do dumb things like run the play clock all the way down on every snap.

the head chef followed by his fat little waiter

Originally posted by 49ersking:
Harbaugh took this same team to 3 consecutive NFCCGs. It has never been done in the history of the NFL.

Landry took the Cowboys to 4 straight (1970-73) and 3 straight (1980-82)

Knox took the Rams to 3 straight (1974-76)

Holmgren took the Packers to 3 straight (1995-97)

Reid took the Eagles to 4 straight (2001-04)

And that's just the NFC.

(I bet you meant to qualify that as doing in their first three seasons as coach)

Originally posted by 49ersking:
Harbaugh took this same team to 3 consecutive NFCCGs. It has never been done in the history of the NFL. If that experience or that of Caroll or Arians...is compared to Tomsula and Chryst, well...I'll leave it at that. I think most ppl are confused about Gase...is it him or Manning. In either case, he didn't show up here, nor did the Colts OC. None of this sounds good. Anyways, whatever...this 49ers staff is here to stay for 2015.

There are diff opinions for a reason...all fans don't think alike (thank goodness), and if you feel positive about the whole situation, good for you. Don't expect the disappointed fans (at least some) to change their opinion on hope.
In the end, it's just a game. There's something positive.

I don't want fans to feel any way other than how they want to however I don't wan them to distort facts to try and prove their pessimistic views and by no means am i talking about you personally.

And again, that experience happened here. Not before here. So if you say Tomsula can't get it done because you don't believe in him fine. You cannot say he can't get it done because the last guy that coached this team came in with a boat load of head coaching experience with a track record of winning on the NFL level as a head coach and he did it while coaching against Pete and Arians and Fisher, see what I mean?

There wasn't MUCH wrong with this team but what was wrong Harbaugh was unwilling to change. So do you bring him back for more of the same and probably worse because he's unwilling to tweak things..not plays but coaches? Or do you do your best to keep things as close to how they were with a shake up in key areas.

Getting plays called in on time would have won us a Super Bowl. Being efficient in the red zone would probably have had us as repeat champions. Special teams units providing great coverage past year 1 again would probably see us with the 2 super bowls and possibly 3 trips in a row.

The little things, the attention to detail this team missed. Talent and motivation took us to almost a ring. Now with the same talent and x.'s and o's with a motivated squad who will fight for Tomsula like they did Harbaugh, and in fact maybe a little harder since the vets have loved Tomsula before they even knew Harbaugh who knows what will happen?

I am excited that Mangini doesn't have to do any heavy lifting. All he has to do is put amazing players in the right vicinity to make plays. We have pound for pound some of the best position coaches in the league. inside linebackers and outside linebackers will be treated to great minds with insight.

On the offensive side of the ball Logan will be a godsend to Kap if he even delivers on half of his beliefs and has them translate over to our QB who is a pure product of the instructions of the last regime. Instructions meaning what we actually ran and what the Offensive minds preached for him to do and look for (Don't run, then run, then go for chunk yardage, then dump it off to the backs some) all of which he seemingly did once they put an emphasis on it right? Maybe now this clay will be molded by an offense that will feature him and ALL of the weapons at his disposal not just the ones that can managed to be worked into the game plan on a per week basis. The line coaches have a track record with developing and also a new college guy making his way up is there to help. The man who helped mold odb jr and landry is now going to develop our guys. we have inside and outside coaching for wide receivers... that is attention to detail. We have an actual experienced offensive coach handling the tight ends not a traditional defensive mind that is a huge upgrade.

maybe the pieces are now in the places where they are setup to be most successful coupled with talent that pretty much everybody on this entire coaching staff from top to bottom including special teams has never had the opportunity to coach before.

Just my opinion