The 49ers 2015 Coaching Staff Thread

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
At first I think we were all up in arms over the new coaching search. And for good reason. It didn't seem like we would assemble a quality coaching staff. Every coach that we wanted seemed to get away for one reason or another.

Now that we have our entire staff in place it doesn't look as grim as we first thought. Im actually excited to see what Geep and Log can do with Kaepernick. There's no way possible that the offense Could be any worse than what we've seen with Roman running it.

On defense im cautiously optimistic. Vic was alright, not great. We've had the most talented players every since he's been here. And all of his off coverage on 3rd and short which let QBs complete Easy passes for first downs drove me crazy. Plus it'll be nice to see some more blitzs.

So how do you guys feel now that the staff is complete?

Yeah, those were my two of my criticisms of Fangio as well:
1) Off coverage schemes on 3rd and shorts (simple pitch and catch)
2) Brings a blitz and then plays off coverage giving the QB the easy safe out/completion
3) Never playing jam-press at the LOS (see INT in the Superbowl with Browner or us vs. the Broncos vs. Seattle in the Superbowl = disrupt the timing)
4) Not willing to acquire a 2-gap wide-bodied plugger at NT to help against power backs, short yardage and goal line situations

Offense? 25th people. Probability ALONE says we do better than 25th in points and CK and others/defense won't have to pull out so many late game "will to win" victories. I'm willing to bet we average more than 4 points in the second half of games. I'm willing to bet 1/2 of CK's TD's will not be d/t ad lib plays and that more of these will be b/c of scheme/design and coaching.

After what we've had to endure the last 4yrs on offense I don't see how anyone wouldn't be excited for whats to come. It's amazing that we won 8 games when you average 4points in the second half. And all of that falls directly on coaching, or lack there of. Tomsula has already said that he wants to run a more uptempo offense.

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Right. Because you add so much to the conversation with your serious commentary and golly g George power of positive thinking....

If you want to hide in the corner and pretend the world is ending, go ahead. To each his own. But please don't fool yourself into believing that a positive outlook automatically equates to lacking a grip on reality. Sometimes things work out.

I think you think my original post was directed at you or those who have chosen to be positive. It wasnt. I was just sitting at work bored at the end of the day and decided to post something that is goofy and made me laugh. I'm sorry you don't appreciate my humor, even if tired.

Fair enough. My mistake. Sorry about that.

Niners new coaching staff will be measured against predecessors
By Eric Branch

http://www.sfchronicle.com/49ers/article/Niners-new-coaching-staff-will-be-measured-6073914.php?t=f95012681ff3689a9f&cmpid=twitter-premium

NFL Network analyst and former 49ers cornerback Eric Davis, 47, said players eventually sniff out coaches who are out of their depth. They did so with Singletary and will do the same if Tomsula doesn't have the skills to be a successful head coach, he said.

"You're dealing with professionals," Davis said. "Not kids. Not high-school kids. Not college kids. They actually understand their job. They study just as much as the coaches and they understand when you're setting them up for failure. That's, ultimately, why Mike Singletary failed. The guys reached a point where the motivational speeches didn't work. They were like 'Teach me.'"

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One way or another, I think the players will figure this one out quickly - after all, the players already know JT.

Originally posted by slowriot:
Niners new coaching staff will be measured against predecessors
By Eric Branch

http://www.sfchronicle.com/49ers/article/Niners-new-coaching-staff-will-be-measured-6073914.php?t=f95012681ff3689a9f&cmpid=twitter-premium

NFL Network analyst and former 49ers cornerback Eric Davis, 47, said players eventually sniff out coaches who are out of their depth. They did so with Singletary and will do the same if Tomsula doesn't have the skills to be a successful head coach, he said.

"You're dealing with professionals," Davis said. "Not kids. Not high-school kids. Not college kids. They actually understand their job. They study just as much as the coaches and they understand when you're setting them up for failure. That's, ultimately, why Mike Singletary failed. The guys reached a point where the motivational speeches didn't work. They were like 'Teach me.'"

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One way or another, I think the players will figure this one out quickly - after all, the players already know JT.

I agree!

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by jimmythegreekjr:
When I first saw the headline on the front page, I thought it said "49ers release Tomsula's assistant coaches" instead of 49ers release list of Tomsula's assistant coaches.

LOL. Yup, time to start over again!

How many wins will it take for JT to stick around for more than one season?

What happens if he goes 7-9 or worse?

Originally posted by slowriot:
How many wins will it take for JT to stick around for more than one season?

What happens if he goes 7-9 or worse?

Good question. Honestly, I think he has to go 8-8 at least. I get the impression that the 49ers fully expect to improve and make the playoffs next season. If we actually get worse, I could see JT going one and done.

I don't think that will happen though. I think he's fortunate to have a very talented roster, and the coaching staff we've put together is pretty decent. If we can avoid the injuries and media controversies that plagued all of 2014, we will be back in the playoffs, guaranteed.

Originally posted by slowriot:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
All you can do is just hope for the best at this point. To me the hiring of two receivers coach to focus on different receiver types and responsibilities shows at a good awareness of some of the issues that were plaguing the offense in recent years so while this staff might be cobbled together with duct tape, it also doesn't necessarily mean they can't be successful. The odds are against it I'd say but if these guys all have pretty good chemistry and work together seamlessly with no ego's involved, anything is possible.


Hoping all of this works out and Baalke ends up looking like some grandmaster of football level genius.

I couldn't agree more.

Agreed. I will take my crow well done with a nice bottle of Chianti.

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by slowriot:
How many wins will it take for JT to stick around for more than one season?

What happens if he goes 7-9 or worse?

Good question. Honestly, I think he has to go 8-8 at least. I get the impression that the 49ers fully expect to improve and make the playoffs next season. If we actually get worse, I could see JT going one and done.

I don't think that will happen though. I think he's fortunate to have a very talented roster, and the coaching staff we've put together is pretty decent. If we can avoid the injuries and media controversies that plagued all of 2014, we will be back in the playoffs, guaranteed.

Jed has really set this season up as a make-or-break for JT. We certainly have the talent to make a deep playoff run - so as long as the players are on board and the team avoids significant injuries to key players, we should be in the conversation next January.

It would be a shame to lose JT altogether if he does fail. He's been such a quality DL coach and is good for the locker room. And to think, if we'd hired someone else as HC (such as Gase or Fangio) JT would likely be entrenched in that role for many years to come...

Originally posted by slowriot:
Jed has really set this season up as a make-or-break for JT. We certainly have the talent to make a deep playoff run - so as long as the players are on board and the team avoids significant injuries to key players, we should be in the conversation next January.

It would be a shame to lose JT altogether if he does fail. He's been such a quality DL coach and is good for the locker room. And to think, if we'd hired someone else as HC (such as Gase or Fangio) JT would likely be entrenched in that role for many years to come...

Yup. We all loved Tomsula as the d-line coach. One of the best in the business, and somebody we wanted on staff for as long as he's coaching. But being HC is a different beast entirely. He's now officially on the clock. It's a constant struggle to win games and not get fired. I hope he succeeds, for his sake and ours.

Lets just hope Tomsula is the next Bill Cowher.

I think they view him as a longterm guy, so hes going to get at least 3 years.

Originally posted by Niners99:
Lets just hope Tomsula is the next Bill Cowher.

I think they view him as a longterm guy, so hes going to get at least 3 years.

That's the hope. But do you really think he sticks around if we win less than eight games next year?

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by slowriot:
How many wins will it take for JT to stick around for more than one season?

What happens if he goes 7-9 or worse?

Good question. Honestly, I think he has to go 8-8 at least. I get the impression that the 49ers fully expect to improve and make the playoffs next season. If we actually get worse, I could see JT going one and done.

I don't think that will happen though. I think he's fortunate to have a very talented roster, and the coaching staff we've put together is pretty decent. If we can avoid the injuries and media controversies that plagued all of 2014, we will be back in the playoffs, guaranteed.

I was going to start a poll on how long will JT last, so good question.

The way I look at it is quite simple, I believe JT will last more than one year almost no matter what given he is Jed York's pick. He probably will get a pass even if he tanks in 2015 unless is a complete disaster like 4 wins or less.

But, if we can't get back to the playoffs within 2 seasons, then I think he is gone. By then, all the star players will have passed their prime which is a shame really.

Originally posted by slowriot:
Niners new coaching staff will be measured against predecessors
By Eric Branch

http://www.sfchronicle.com/49ers/article/Niners-new-coaching-staff-will-be-measured-6073914.php?t=f95012681ff3689a9f&cmpid=twitter-premium

NFL Network analyst and former 49ers cornerback Eric Davis, 47, said players eventually sniff out coaches who are out of their depth. They did so with Singletary and will do the same if Tomsula doesn't have the skills to be a successful head coach, he said.

"You're dealing with professionals," Davis said. "Not kids. Not high-school kids. Not college kids. They actually understand their job. They study just as much as the coaches and they understand when you're setting them up for failure. That's, ultimately, why Mike Singletary failed. The guys reached a point where the motivational speeches didn't work. They were like 'Teach me.'"

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One way or another, I think the players will figure this one out quickly - after all, the players already know JT.

which is why by the end they were done with roman.

Originally posted by Niners99:
Lets just hope Tomsula is the next Bill Cowher.

I think they view him as a longterm guy, so hes going to get at least 3 years.

Not sure how Tomsula will be that. Bill Cowher was a 35 year old defensive coordinator with KC before being hired in Pittsburgh. He had no connection to the Steelers before being hired.

Originally posted by slowriot:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by jimmythegreekjr:

When I first saw the headline on the front page, I thought it said "49ers release Tomsula's assistant coaches" instead of 49ers release list of Tomsula's assistant coaches.

LOL. Yup, time to start over again!

How many wins will it take for JT to stick around for more than one season?

What happens if he goes 7-9 or worse?

It'll suck ass and we'll want to form a lynch mob to turn Jed York into dead dork.