The 49ers 2015 Coaching Staff Thread

Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
You guys think this is a joke? We blew up a top-3 or top-5 coaching staff in the league, to hire back everyone from the years when we were the worst team in the league. I'm so dumbfounded that I don't know what to say. I hope this team loses every game (it kills me to say this) so that Jed can finally get the point that he shouldn't be running this team.

Stop it. The offensive coaching staff was NOT great. so far with defense we've made solid moves but the talent has a lot to do with it. We can go back to when Jim was hired and see how many people hated the idea of Vic Fangio being the coordinator citing his NUMEROUS FAILED STINTS in the same position.

Will Tarver still run a 34 base defense? I have read that he is a 43 guy. If we go back to a 43 defense I will be even more pissed than I already am!

Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
It included 2 first round picks at OT, 2 high second round picks at OG and a 3rd round pick. If they didn't develop into good players, shouldn't some of that blame be placed with the coach?

Come on, Rollin. You're not really going to argue that offensive line talent around 2006-7 was as good as it is today, are you? Yes, Kwame Harris was a high draft pick. So what? He was a bad player in the NFL. And for that matter, even Larry Allen was a shell of his former self. He's the one who helpfully stepped aside and allowed a Seahawk D lineman to smash Alex Smith's throwing shoulder into mush.

Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Oscar ‏@BetterRivals

The only team to give up more sacks than the #49ers this year? The Chris Forester-coached Washington Redskins, now the OL coach in SF.

FML



We just hit the rewind button on a old VHS tape & the outcome looks very sh*tty

Is their line as talented as ours? NO.
were they able to run the ball with alfred morris? YES
we have to wait and see the final pieces before we just go "oh the redskins gave up x amount of sacks"
yea who were their quarterbacks.. mccoy cousins and rg3
that doesn't really tell me anything about his coaching job with the line.

Originally posted by greywolf447:

Will Tarver still run a 34 base defense? I have read that he is a 43 guy. If we go back to a 43 defense I will be even more pissed than I already am!

Guess you're gonna be pretty pissed. Articles posted earlier that we are going to transition into a 4-3.

Personally, I've wanted to go to the 4-3 since watching Borland this season.

Originally posted by jonesadrian:
Stop it. The offensive coaching staff was NOT great. so far with defense we've made solid moves but the talent has a lot to do with it. We can go back to when Jim was hired and see how many people hated the idea of Vic Fangio being the coordinator citing his NUMEROUS FAILED STINTS in the same position.

I do remember a heck of a lot of complaining when they brought Fangio on board.

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Oscar ‏@BetterRivals

The only team to give up more sacks than the #49ers this year? The Chris Forester-coached Washington Redskins, now the OL coach in SF.

FML



We just hit the rewind button on a old VHS tape & the outcome looks very sh*tty

Is their line as talented as ours? NO.
were they able to run the ball with alfred morris? YES
we have to wait and see the final pieces before we just go "oh the redskins gave up x amount of sacks"
yea who were their quarterbacks.. mccoy cousins and rg3
that doesn't really tell me anything about his coaching job with the line.

Sounds like the carlos rogers arguement

Originally posted by greywolf447:
Will Tarver still run a 34 base defense? I have read that he is a 43 guy. If we go back to a 43 defense I will be even more pissed than I already am!

Its already been reported that the 49ers are going to a 4-3.

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Oscar ‏@BetterRivals

The only team to give up more sacks than the #49ers this year? The Chris Forester-coached Washington Redskins, now the OL coach in SF.

FML



We just hit the rewind button on a old VHS tape & the outcome looks very sh*tty

Is their line as talented as ours? NO.
were they able to run the ball with alfred morris? YES
we have to wait and see the final pieces before we just go "oh the redskins gave up x amount of sacks"
yea who were their quarterbacks.. mccoy cousins and rg3
that doesn't really tell me anything about his coaching job with the line.

Plus they gave up the 2nd most which was better than the Niners most. Incremental improvement...

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:
Stop it. The offensive coaching staff was NOT great. so far with defense we've made solid moves but the talent has a lot to do with it. We can go back to when Jim was hired and see how many people hated the idea of Vic Fangio being the coordinator citing his NUMEROUS FAILED STINTS in the same position.

I do remember a heck of a lot of complaining when they brought Fangio on board.

we were doomed because he failed so much in so many places he had to go to college and now he's going to be in charge of coaching the 49ers? Harbaugh is making such a huge mistake!

I tried my hardest to stay positive through this whole post Jim Harbaugh coach hiring process. But with each passing news report it's becoming more and more of a struggle to do so. We replace Solari with the guy that was fired for Solari in the first place? We bring back a guy who was a coach for us in the past when we we're really bad. We bring back the QB coach who failed to develop Kap into a pocket passer and was the architect of our attrocious red zone offense? Why the f**k are we bringing in assistants before we even hire an offensive coordinator? How exactly are we going to attract top coaching talent when the OC can't even pick his own staff? We got rid of our best coaches in donatell and leavitt and replaced our online coach with an even worse one. It's pretty clear at this point that tomsula does not have a network of top talent coaches to draw on and we are just cycling through retreads.

This whole thing reeks of a huge dumpster fire and all the FO has done is throw more trash on top of it. Seriously its surreal how horribly this has all played out.

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
You can call me what you want. I've lived and breathed this team since I was 8. I love this team more than anything, and i'm sick and tired of being hopeful of one terrible decision after another. Your anger is misguided, and should be directed towards the people ruining it.

I'm not angry with you. I just don't understand a lot of fans these days, that's all. And I'm only angry with Yorlke to a point. At some point, you simply have to acknowledge that you have no control over something like this and you're going to ride with it, roll with it, hope for the best.

Don't get me wrong here. I haven't been on board with anything that's happened so far since the season ended; none of it. But, I'm a Niner fan and I'll just hope that Tomsula and his new staff surprises everyone and rolls big time this next season. Anything else is just tilting at windmills because we are all spectators here, not players.

Look at my name. I've been rolling with with they do... and what's that gotten us? I don't like to think of us as not having any control. If fans speak out, stop going to games, stop buying merchendise, protest, etc., at some point the owner's hands are tied and they have to find someone who can help. This team needs a competent adult to run this team. In WA fans buy box tickets regardless of record. Team value goes up and the worst owner in sports has no incentive to win. Just to keep doing what he's doing. I don't want to be WA

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:
Stop it. The offensive coaching staff was NOT great. so far with defense we've made solid moves but the talent has a lot to do with it. We can go back to when Jim was hired and see how many people hated the idea of Vic Fangio being the coordinator citing his NUMEROUS FAILED STINTS in the same position.

I do remember a heck of a lot of complaining when they brought Fangio on board.

I remember the outrage on this board when Fangio became the DC. Some things never change

Originally posted by stunder49:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Oscar ‏@BetterRivals

The only team to give up more sacks than the #49ers this year? The Chris Forester-coached Washington Redskins, now the OL coach in SF.

FML



We just hit the rewind button on a old VHS tape & the outcome looks very sh*tty

Is their line as talented as ours? NO.
were they able to run the ball with alfred morris? YES
we have to wait and see the final pieces before we just go "oh the redskins gave up x amount of sacks"
yea who were their quarterbacks.. mccoy cousins and rg3
that doesn't really tell me anything about his coaching job with the line.

Sounds like the carlos rogers arguement

we have to wait and see. the problem with this line is the same and was the same before and during jimh. good at run blocking bad at pass blocking.
let's not act like we're going from a line that was wonderful at both and just firing people left and right for the sake of doing it.
its crazy how immediately nostalgic we are about what we just got through complaining about every single week on offense.

defensively we have the right to complain if things don't go right or if things don't make sense coaching wise but we have to wait and see until the pieces fall into place.

Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
I tried my hardest to stay positive through this whole post Jim Harbaugh coach hiring process. But with each passing news report it's becoming more and more of a struggle to do so. We replace Solari with the guy that was fired for Solari in the first place? We bring back a guy who was a coach for us in the past when we we're really bad. We bring back the QB coach who failed to develop Kap into a pocket passer and was the architect of our attrocious red zone offense? Why the f**k are we bringing in assistants before we even hire an offensive coordinator? How exactly are we going to attract top coaching talent when the OC can't even pick his own staff? We got rid of our best coaches in donatell and leavitt and replaced our online coach with an even worse one. It's pretty clear at this point that tomsula does not have a network of top talent coaches to draw on and we are just cycling through retreads.

This whole thing reeks of a huge dumpster fire and all the FO has done is throw more trash on top of it. Seriously its surreal how horribly this has all played out.

Why would Tomsula have a network of anything, he's been with the 49ers his entire NFL career and half of that was with Harbaugh and virtually every one of his guys is being treated like yesterday's trash.