The Silver Lining Thread (positive people come on in!)

Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Good point. He always gets a good corner it seems, and he might have to mess up on purpose to strike out at WR this year. I am actually a little worried about the bust potential of some of the DL prospects (especially Armstead). I trust Baalke, and I truly feel that some of his picks on offense would have been very productive for us, had they been developed (not AJJ, that one still stinks; soft people can't e counted on to play a hard game).

It still kind of blows my mind that a guy like Baalke drafted a guy like Jenkins. I don't think he'll make that mistake again and almost every big-time receiver in this particular draft looks like a tough guy to me.

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Good point. He always gets a good corner it seems, and he might have to mess up on purpose to strike out at WR this year. I am actually a little worried about the bust potential of some of the DL prospects (especially Armstead). I trust Baalke, and I truly feel that some of his picks on offense would have been very productive for us, had they been developed (not AJJ, that one still stinks; soft people can't e counted on to play a hard game).

It still kind of blows my mind that a guy like Baalke drafted a guy like Jenkins. I don't think he'll make that mistake again and almost every big-time receiver in this particular draft looks like a tough guy to me.

Armstead worries me as well! A number of mocks have the 9ers picking him but he is such a gamble I really don't think Baalke can afford another whiff at 15...he's still living down Jenkins...the name in the envelop guy. I'm not sure he'll take a WR in the first but if he doesn't I hope he trades back for an extra pick. There are so many WRs at the second tier level that he could get a two-fer.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Armstead worries me as well! A number of mocks have the 9ers picking him but he is such a gamble I really don't think Baalke can afford another whiff at 15...he's still living down Jenkins...the name in the envelop guy. I'm not sure he'll take a WR in the first but if he doesn't I hope he trades back for an extra pick. There are so many WRs at the second tier level that he could get a two-fer.

We do need to trade back our first and get a first this year and a second this year and hopefully next years too. Let's do it then pick a couple WRs round two and defense round one! Of course FA will dictate a good bit of that as well

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Armstead worries me as well! A number of mocks have the 9ers picking him but he is such a gamble I really don't think Baalke can afford another whiff at 15...he's still living down Jenkins...the name in the envelop guy. I'm not sure he'll take a WR in the first but if he doesn't I hope he trades back for an extra pick. There are so many WRs at the second tier level that he could get a two-fer.

We do need to trade back our first and get a first this year and a second this year and hopefully next years too. Let's do it then pick a couple WRs round two and defense round one! Of course FA will dictate a good bit of that as well

If there was a realistic certainty that we could emerge from this draft with Strong and Smith/Dorsey/Lockett, I'd lose it. Trading back in the first to limit/eliminate any need to give up draft capital to get them would just be sick. I think we'll still need DL, OL, and DB depth, but Baalke's pretty good at handling that mid to late.

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Armstead worries me as well! A number of mocks have the 9ers picking him but he is such a gamble I really don't think Baalke can afford another whiff at 15...he's still living down Jenkins...the name in the envelop guy. I'm not sure he'll take a WR in the first but if he doesn't I hope he trades back for an extra pick. There are so many WRs at the second tier level that he could get a two-fer.

We do need to trade back our first and get a first this year and a second this year and hopefully next years too. Let's do it then pick a couple WRs round two and defense round one! Of course FA will dictate a good bit of that as well

If there was a realistic certainty that we could emerge from this draft with Strong and Smith/Dorsey/Lockett, I'd lose it. Trading back in the first to limit/eliminate any need to give up draft capital to get them would just be sick. I think we'll still need DL, OL, and DB depth, but Baalke's pretty good at handling that mid to late.

The more I think about it, the more I think we WILL trade back and pick up additional picks just for this reason.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Armstead worries me as well! A number of mocks have the 9ers picking him but he is such a gamble I really don't think Baalke can afford another whiff at 15...he's still living down Jenkins...the name in the envelop guy. I'm not sure he'll take a WR in the first but if he doesn't I hope he trades back for an extra pick. There are so many WRs at the second tier level that he could get a two-fer.

We do need to trade back our first and get a first this year and a second this year and hopefully next years too. Let's do it then pick a couple WRs round two and defense round one! Of course FA will dictate a good bit of that as well

If there was a realistic certainty that we could emerge from this draft with Strong and Smith/Dorsey/Lockett, I'd lose it. Trading back in the first to limit/eliminate any need to give up draft capital to get them would just be sick. I think we'll still need DL, OL, and DB depth, but Baalke's pretty good at handling that mid to late.

The more I think about it, the more I think we WILL trade back and pick up additional picks just for this reason.

It would be great if that worked out. It all depends on their assessment of how the draft is progressing. If they want any of the top 3 WR significantly more than the rest, and they fall far enough for a reasonably trade up, that could be the call. If Strong and DGB are there at 15 and they greatly prefer one over the other, they might take that guy there. If they value both the same, along with a couple prospects at OL/DL/CB, they could trade back and enough capital (and good luck) to land our Boldin apprentice (Strong maybe) and a deep threat.

I trust Baalke on draft day. I'd like both WR, but I trust him to get his guy if there is a pronounced preference toward a specific guy.

edit: need to find a trade partner offering decent value to make that trade happen, obviously

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Armstead worries me as well! A number of mocks have the 9ers picking him but he is such a gamble I really don't think Baalke can afford another whiff at 15...he's still living down Jenkins...the name in the envelop guy. I'm not sure he'll take a WR in the first but if he doesn't I hope he trades back for an extra pick. There are so many WRs at the second tier level that he could get a two-fer.

We do need to trade back our first and get a first this year and a second this year and hopefully next years too. Let's do it then pick a couple WRs round two and defense round one! Of course FA will dictate a good bit of that as well

If there was a realistic certainty that we could emerge from this draft with Strong and Smith/Dorsey/Lockett, I'd lose it. Trading back in the first to limit/eliminate any need to give up draft capital to get them would just be sick. I think we'll still need DL, OL, and DB depth, but Baalke's pretty good at handling that mid to late.

The more I think about it, the more I think we WILL trade back and pick up additional picks just for this reason.

It would be great if that worked out. It all depends on their assessment of how the draft is progressing. If they want any of the top 3 WR significantly more than the rest, and they fall far enough for a reasonably trade up, that could be the call. If Strong and DGB are there at 15 and they greatly prefer one over the other, they might take that guy there. If they value both the same, along with a couple prospects at OL/DL/CB, they could trade back and enough capital (and good luck) to land our Boldin apprentice (Strong maybe) and a deep threat.

I trust Baalke on draft day. I'd like both WR, but I trust him to get his guy if there is a pronounced preference toward a specific guy.

edit: need to find a trade partner offering decent value to make that trade happen, obviously

Excellent points. Top 15, there should be at least one team that wants/needs to trade up and being middle of the pack, that shouldn't move us too far back while still giving us a real shot at the aforementioned. That would mean...what? We'd move back to somewhere around 20-25 and pick up a 2nd round pick? 3rd?

Where's that tracker?

Seems really hard to be positive right now without sounding like a complete homer.


I'm digging deep tho

Originally posted by verb1der:
Seems really hard to be positive right now without sounding like a complete homer.


I'm digging deep tho

What being homer, Cheering for you team ?

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by verb1der:
Seems really hard to be positive right now without sounding like a complete homer.


I'm digging deep tho

What being homer, Cheering for you team ?

Hope for the best = Homer

Hope for the worst = Realist

And middle ground is for pussies.

Originally posted by Antix:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by verb1der:
Seems really hard to be positive right now without sounding like a complete homer.


I'm digging deep tho

What being homer, Cheering for you team ?

Hope for the best = Homer

Hope for the worst = Realist

And middle ground is for pussies.

Hope for the worst? I believe that is EXACTLY how that group operates.

Originally posted by Antix:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by verb1der:

Seems really hard to be positive right now without sounding like a complete homer.


I'm digging deep tho

What being homer, Cheering for you team ?

Hope for the best = Homer

Hope for the worst = Realist

And middle ground is for pussies.

Hope isn't a plan. Just ask dear leader.

I am optimistic although today's news has shaken the optimism a bit.

Let this all play out first.

This is exactly what I'm going to do and what I've always done as a diehard fan of the team since the mid-'70s. I want to wait and see what happens once the games are actually played - there's still so much talent up and down the roster (and more to come in FA and the draft).

Always keeping the faith.

Originally posted by Antix:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by verb1der:
Seems really hard to be positive right now without sounding like a complete homer.


I'm digging deep tho

What being homer, Cheering for you team ?

Hope for the best = Homer

Hope for the worst = Realist

And middle ground is for pussies.

LOL.

Cowboy played ~66% of the snaps last year. Willis has been hurt. I want them both back, and I want them both healthy.

If they are gone, $22MM goes a long way to plugging gaps in this roster. We still look pretty good for a starting lineup:

QB: Kap
RB: Hyde
FB: Miller
WR: Boldin
WR: Torrey Smith/Draft Pick/Stevie/QP???
TE: Davis
LT: Staley
LG: Thomas/MMartin/Looney
C: Kilgore/MMartin
RG: Boone
RT: Davis
H Back: Carrier/Millard

RDE: TANK
NT: Williams/Dorsey
LDE: Dial/Dockett
ROLB: Smith
RILB: Bowman
LILB: Borland
LOLB: Lynch
CB: Brock
CB: Johnson/Cox
S: Reid
S: Bethea

and you can get a lot of quality depth with $22MM.

2004 - 2010 drained all of my patience.

to have it taken away like this......